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CrimsonSkies said:
im not really in damage control.. i think the 9.4 blow up was pretty stupid as well. i just think people should pay more mind to the actual words in the review.
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Gamespot reviews Metroid Prime 2
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im not really in damage control.. i think the 9.4 blow up was pretty stupid as well. i just think people should pay more mind to the actual words in the review.
Naked Snake
Member
Game looks gorgeous!
He said the graphics are better, more detailed, and the atristry is exceptional. Seriously, MP STILL holds up well today. Any kind of improvement beyond that, without compromising the framerate, is amazing.
The multiplayer was always tacked on, we knew that 4 reviews ago. However, this game always was and is about the substantial single player mode, and it looks to be as long and robust as the original's, with better level design and puzzles, and more challenging combat.
Much like Halo 2, this game wasn't one that was going to reinvent the wheel, just attempt to perfect it further, and I don't see ANYTHING in the review that suggests that Retro failed, Shpankey.
It's taken some very creative reading/listening on your part to even suggest it.
The multiplayer was always tacked on, we knew that 4 reviews ago. However, this game always was and is about the substantial single player mode, and it looks to be as long and robust as the original's, with better level design and puzzles, and more challenging combat.
Much like Halo 2, this game wasn't one that was going to reinvent the wheel, just attempt to perfect it further, and I don't see ANYTHING in the review that suggests that Retro failed, Shpankey.
It's taken some very creative reading/listening on your part to even suggest it.
efralope said:
Just a little bit of swingback for you.
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/gauthor-7640/
Owned? Owned.
The forum profile "reviews" bit is for USER REVIEWS, not site reviews.
Blame! said:
He's always been a special case, but ever since he went to OA...he's been...specialer.
Alcibiades
Member
"What exactly is the reason for necessitating someone review every game in a series? What if Kasavin would have given it a 9.1?"
-they don't have too, but we know what he personally gave the first game, and if I thought it was just right or too low, then a 9.1 from him would have meant that he definitely felt it was a step down, especially if after playing the game then reading his review we would have a sense of how our tastes matched his...
"9.1 is excellent, by any standard. Get your panties out of a twist."
ANY standard?
http://cube.ign.com/articles/371/371929p2.html
-they don't have too, but we know what he personally gave the first game, and if I thought it was just right or too low, then a 9.1 from him would have meant that he definitely felt it was a step down, especially if after playing the game then reading his review we would have a sense of how our tastes matched his...
"9.1 is excellent, by any standard. Get your panties out of a twist."
ANY standard?
http://cube.ign.com/articles/371/371929p2.html
That's an incredibly positive review for the game for it to get a lower score than the original. The text spends most the time praising the game and just a moment to say the multiplayer is not of the same level as the single player.
The score either has to do with A) a different person reviewing it this time. or B) precautionary move to rate it lower than Halo 2 in order to avoid Xbox fanboy backlash. Of course you get Nintendo fanboy backlash, but they've already been dismissed by the media and you might still get that even if you rate it higher.
I would like to say its A, but my gut says B has to do with it. =/
The score either has to do with A) a different person reviewing it this time. or B) precautionary move to rate it lower than Halo 2 in order to avoid Xbox fanboy backlash. Of course you get Nintendo fanboy backlash, but they've already been dismissed by the media and you might still get that even if you rate it higher.
I would like to say its A, but my gut says B has to do with it. =/
"In the end, Star Fox Adventures delivers gamers with a fun, long quest with inspiration from the Zelda franchise at every turn. It's our opinion that Link's exploits still beat out Fox's in every gameplay related category, but that doesn't make this -- Rare's final GameCube offering -- any less sweet."
Yep, sounds like a 9.0 to me.
Too bad I don't agree with his opinion on the game, but eh.
Yep, sounds like a 9.0 to me.
Too bad I don't agree with his opinion on the game, but eh.
Alcibiades
Member
ok, didn't notice that, thanks for linking...Matlock said:
shpankey
not an idiot
Mejilan said:
what the hell? i never suggested it failed. i was speaking for myself when i said there wasn't anything mentioned in the review to get me excited. obviously, since i said for me, i meant for me (i didn't care for part one so more of the same is not a big sale).
i think you read more into my post than what was there
Also, for those who want to obsess over the numerical standards, here's the highest 5 reviews he's given (that I can find, of course).
Metroid Prime 2 - 9.1
Jak II - 9.1
Dark Cloud 2 - 9.0*
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six 3: Black Arrow - 8.5
Metal Arms: Glitch in the System - 8.3
*(some guy called him out as a "newb" reviewer on the GS forums for that, funny stuff)
Metroid Prime 2 - 9.1
Jak II - 9.1
Dark Cloud 2 - 9.0*
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six 3: Black Arrow - 8.5
Metal Arms: Glitch in the System - 8.3
*(some guy called him out as a "newb" reviewer on the GS forums for that, funny stuff)
Drop the .1 for Echoes.
Drop the .4 for Halo2.
Both games got a 9 then.
For the ones that are too pissed to read and understand rationaly.....
Fear leads to anger.
Anger leads to....fear.
no wait...
First you get the woman,then you get the power
Power leads to fear....
Bleh...just go buy the game already.
Drop the .4 for Halo2.
Both games got a 9 then.
For the ones that are too pissed to read and understand rationaly.....
Fear leads to anger.
Anger leads to....fear.
no wait...
First you get the woman,then you get the power
Power leads to fear....
Bleh...just go buy the game already.
krypt0nian
Banned
Matlock said:
Yep that's the attitude. Calling names instead of dealing with the issue is so GAF.
I come here for news and intelligent discussion, not for folls jumping into thread like this is Gamefaqs just to point out that "DS SUXXORS"
Boring.
Ok, then...
Who constitutes the "parties"? It's just... this happens so often - your type of post, I mean. I did it myself after one of Drinky's threads, only to go back and see that pretty much no one had responded to the troll itself. But, in your case, people had JUST mentioned how efralope was the only one to complain. So your post was made a touch more glaring.Matlock said:Also, for the parties involved in this embarassment of a thread: take your goddamn pudding and eat it. You are the only one finding fault here, while everyone else knows it's an alright game.
"It's not fair, mommy! Reviewers like Halo 2 better! And gamers will buy five times as many Halo 2's! This affects my like for the game!"
krypt0nian
Banned
Matlock said:
So do something about it.
Yeah I've been expecting the mods to do something about it for ages. Oh well.
Musashi Wins!
FLAWLESS VICTOLY!
Chronicles of Riddick >> Metroid Prime 2
Seriously, though. You would think at this point in the long journey of despair Nbots would learn some karmic lessons and avoid their prancing in the Halo 2 thread.
The review really makes it sound like if you're a fan of the series, you'll dig this. Everyone happy now?
I have to echo the earlier posters point that there was a certain special joy in playing games before discussing reviews became a norm, haha.
Seriously, though. You would think at this point in the long journey of despair Nbots would learn some karmic lessons and avoid their prancing in the Halo 2 thread.
The review really makes it sound like if you're a fan of the series, you'll dig this. Everyone happy now?
I have to echo the earlier posters point that there was a certain special joy in playing games before discussing reviews became a norm, haha.
krypt0nian
Banned
Matlock said:
No ones offended. I find it ridiculous that adults act this way. Oh yeah thats right its my fault.
BatiGOOOOOOL
Member
Matlock said:
OK, now we have a problem.
Seriously, great score. If I only had some money around to buy the game the second it comes out.
Project Midway
Member
Nice score...but...cant...resist....myself......urgh...
Project Midway
Member
yes! the best gif ever!explodet said:
And, because I'm feeling merry, and because I also kept reading the jedi as multiple users...the love:
<3 you guys for making good posts
Post of the fucking year.
That is all.
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king zell said:nice score and review
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CrimsonSkies said:
<3 you guys for making good posts
quadriplegicjon said:
Post of the fucking year.
That is all.
Just read the entire review, and it seems like the game builds on everything Prime was and adds completely new content. Upgraded graphics at 60 FRAMES (the first was no slouch), wicked art, more story-driven plot = ME SOLD. The reviewer didn't even really have anything negative to say about the game, save the obligatory minor backtracking nitpick and the multiplayer mode.
First off, backtracking complaints makes absolutely no sense to me. Familiar area + new powers + weaker enemies compared to you = Awesomeness! Tedious to travel? Not if the world was designed well and didn't really take that long. And Prime never really annoyed me with the artifact quests anyway, with OBVIOUS clues for each artifact. I actually feel bad for level designers that spend hundreds of hours working on one area just to have the player run by it, be done in a couple of minutes and never appreciate the cleverness of the design. One thing that Prime always did was to make me think. Made me remember strange spots in areas I travelled to and apply new powers to get to places I haven't been to before. That made it a memorable and a genuine Metroid game.
As for multiplayer, well blame Nintendo for listening to its fans. Blame the majority of people (not me!) that voted for it on the "things you would like to see in Prime 2" poll. Without being online, it was obvious that the multi was just fan service that was going to be fun, but nothing spectacular. Honestly, I'm surprised Retro was able to make it quite good with what was obviously a single player franchise.
Someone said that it was the highest review that this guy has ever put out? Well from his praise, the game seems to deserve it. Definitely going to be one of the year's best, and before anyone whining about the score, read the damn review.
First off, backtracking complaints makes absolutely no sense to me. Familiar area + new powers + weaker enemies compared to you = Awesomeness! Tedious to travel? Not if the world was designed well and didn't really take that long. And Prime never really annoyed me with the artifact quests anyway, with OBVIOUS clues for each artifact. I actually feel bad for level designers that spend hundreds of hours working on one area just to have the player run by it, be done in a couple of minutes and never appreciate the cleverness of the design. One thing that Prime always did was to make me think. Made me remember strange spots in areas I travelled to and apply new powers to get to places I haven't been to before. That made it a memorable and a genuine Metroid game.
As for multiplayer, well blame Nintendo for listening to its fans. Blame the majority of people (not me!) that voted for it on the "things you would like to see in Prime 2" poll. Without being online, it was obvious that the multi was just fan service that was going to be fun, but nothing spectacular. Honestly, I'm surprised Retro was able to make it quite good with what was obviously a single player franchise.
Someone said that it was the highest review that this guy has ever put out? Well from his praise, the game seems to deserve it. Definitely going to be one of the year's best, and before anyone whining about the score, read the damn review.
Do The Mario
Unconfirmed Member
9.1 sounds great, what the hell did people expect?
I cant stand the people on this message broad that need to beat their chest about how there console is better then others.
I cant stand the people on this message broad that need to beat their chest about how there console is better then others.