Gay marriage salt thread

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Hey, has there been any saltiness from GAF members?
I don't really like talking about saltiness and especially so from gaf users, but yeah, there was one guy who was really mad about it and got banned. His views were known before too but in the thread in which he came out with them he realized (or at least seemed to realize) his arguments didn't withstand any scrutinizing whatsoever so he took a more observing position. It seemed like he might learn something of it, and I guess that's why mods didn't ban him already there, but clearly, he didn't learn anything whatsoever.

I'm not gonna name the person. He's gone now and I don't want people to quote his toxic posts here. If you want to see them, PM me.

Back on topic, yeah that photographer's reply is awesome. I really don't know what's so hard for people to realize that they can apply their thinking to their own marriage and not marry a person of same sex, but instead they have to try force it on other people.
 
People are stupid. They think that next is child molestation, then bestiality, then necrophilia. The funny thing is i think that the religious people fighting marriage equality are going to be the ones to try and make an effort to make pedophilia/bestiality/necrophilia legal.

Just to prove their arguments are valid? That just seems a tat far fetched.

Nevertheless, I am very happy for the United States, let's hope this helps other countries to take a similar leap.

One would think that's too far fetched. Buuuuut, taking into consideration the Family Research Council's fucktard logic. The only thing they need to do now is just be vocal about how there's nothing wrong in their eyes if a male is with female, no matter their age. Because... you know, it's not same-sex.

Read up on this lobby group's "logic" of how and why they link homosexuality with pedophilia:
http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=is02e3

Granted, their statement here defending Josh Duggar serves more to cover their asses seeing how involved Duggar was. Honestly, I would not put it past them to think it's acceptable.
“Today Josh Duggar made the decision to resign his position as a result of previously unknown information becoming public concerning events that occurred during his teenage years. Josh believes that the situation will make it difficult for him to be effective in his current work. We believe this is the best decision for Josh and his family at this time. We will be praying for everyone involved.”
http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2015/05/22/3661999/frc-josh-duggar/
 
I don't really like talking about saltiness and especially so from gaf users, but yeah, there was one guy who was really mad about it and got banned. His views were known before too but in the thread in which he came out with them he realized (or at least seemed to realize) his arguments didn't withstand any scrutinizing whatsoever so he took a more observing position. It seemed like he might learn something of it, and I guess that's why mods didn't ban him already there, but clearly, he didn't learn anything whatsoever.

I'm not gonna name the person. He's gone now and I don't want people to quote his toxic posts here. If you want to see them, PM me.

Back on topic, yeah that photographer's reply is awesome. I really don't know what's so hard for people to realize that they can apply their thinking to their own marriage and not marry a person of same sex, but instead they have to try force it on other people.

I think you tend to find in order to find a larger hivemind of bigotry you really need to go to specific communities or sites on the internet. Somewhere like GAF is so diverse common ground on morality for the human race is going to be largely agreed on. That plus moderation would not tolerate bigotry or senseless hate.

The worst you will see on these forums will largely surround console wars. Which in the grand scheme of what we are discussing in this topic is actually a "good" thing for once.
 
Perusing this thread, I'm glad that I don't know anyone personally who has had a mental breakdown over this, despite there being many people in my social networks.
 
Übermatik;170180060 said:
Here's an interesting new one I noticed this morning on Facebook:



Salt from the opposite side...?

The "not your victory" part made me smile, seeing as it's an achievement for human rights regardless...

It's funny because there are a lot of straight men standing up for gay rights. Here's Doug Stanhope (comedian) in Bisbee, Arizona in a city council meeting giving a speech about equal rights (while the council members vote for gay marriage):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYel_9svhoc

and here is the winning vote for gay marriage (great speech from Stanhope):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xq4hwl8CiqY

This person is obliviously just stupid and this person doesn't realize that other people can help a cause.


Hahaha that's awesome! Way to stand up for yourself!
 
On a saltless note from a Christian and a conservative, I personally do not agree with homosexuality in the same sense that I disagree with other sins according to The Bible. There is no special place of hate in my heart for gays as I have gay friends and family, I simply follow my theistic moral values ahead of whatever social movements reach popular opinion that are not compatible with them.

I also understand that a secular government cannot legislate religion and really forcing religion on people dilutes the sincerity by which people embrace it. I wish all people well while at the same time wish that all people would come to Christianity and embrace the life model set out for us by Jesus.

My only concern with modern liberalism is that it can be quite militant and as intolerant as any other militant ideology when faced with opposing dialogue regardless of how sensitive the other person is to the individual perspectives each of us has arrived to on our own.

As long as religious organizations are not strong armed by the state to go against the foundation of their practice and perform same sex marriages in their houses of worship when there are plenty of other venues available for gay couple to marry that aren't in opposition morally to their lifestyle, I see no need for an uproar over the legality of the ruling from a secular perspective of a diverse nation.
 
On a saltless note from a Christian and a conservative, I personally do not agree with homosexuality in the same sense that I disagree with other sins according to The Bible. There is no special place of hate in my heart for gays as I have gay friends and family, I simply follow my theistic moral values ahead of whatever social movements reach popular opinion that are not compatible with them.

I also understand that a secular government cannot legislate religion and really forcing religion on people dilutes the sincerity by which people embrace it. I wish all people well while at the same time wish that all people would come to Christianity and embrace the life model set out for us by Jesus.
Who can spot the irony?
 
On a saltless note from a Christian and a conservative, I personally do not agree with homosexuality in the same sense that I disagree with other sins according to The Bible. There is no special place of hate in my heart for gays as I have gay friends and family, I simply follow my theistic moral values ahead of whatever social movements reach popular opinion that are not compatible with them.

I also understand that a secular government cannot legislate religion and really forcing religion on people dilutes the sincerity by which people embrace it. I wish all people well while at the same time wish that all people would come to Christianity and embrace the life model set out for us by Jesus.

My only concern with modern liberalism is that it can be quite militant and as intolerant as any other militant ideology when faced with opposing dialogue regardless of how sensitive the other person is to the individual perspectives each of us has arrived to on our own.

As long as religious organizations are not strong armed by the state to go against the foundation of their practice and perform same sex marriages in their houses of worship when there are plenty of other venues available for gay couple to marry that aren't in opposition morally to their lifestyle, I see no need for an uproar over the legality of the ruling from a secular perspective of a diverse nation.

They wont be, because this is basically giving the same rights and advantages of straight couples to gay couples. Thats really all that changed here. More people now have the same freedom afforded to us .
As a fellow Christian Im glad you dont have hate in your heart but I do wish you would reconsider your stance on this. Simply being alive is not a sin.
 
To put your own theistic beliefs ahead of charity and compassion is decidedly unlike Jesus.

I'm not sure how you've read that from what I've said. Jesus reiterated the truth of the Old Testament and defined marriage in a heterosexual manner himself. To wish that people would not live sinfully in accordance to what Jesus taught is in no way unlike Jesus, not that I'm claiming to be Christ-like as that would be immeasurably arrogant.

I stated that I wish all people well but believe that Jesus is the truth and ultimately living our lives in accordance to his teaching is what is best for everyone, though it is something not to be forced on others as then they have not truly changed sincerely in their hearts.
 
They wont be, because this is basically giving the same rights and advantages of straight couples to gay couples. Thats really all that changed here. More people now have the same freedom afforded to us .
As a fellow Christian Im glad you dont have hate in your heart but I do wish you would reconsider your stance on this. Simply being alive is not a sin.

I don't choose what I believe to be right and wrong. Man's nature is too flawed and inherently selfish to be it's own basis for morality. Even when I don't always understand the nature of it, as a Christian, I trust the Bible's teaching above my own limited understanding.

I recognize my own sin as equally grievous as the sin of others.
 
I'm not sure how you've read that from what I've said. Jesus reiterated the truth of the Old Testament and defined marriage in a heterosexual manner himself. To wish that people would not live sinfully in accordance to what Jesus taught is in no way unlike Jesus, not that I'm claiming to be Christ-like as that would be immeasurably arrogant.

I stated that I wish all people well but believe that Jesus is the truth and ultimately living our lives in accordance to his teaching is what is best for everyone, though it is something not to be forced on others as then they have not truly changed sincerely in their hearts.

People do not have a choice. They are born either gay or straight. God made them that way. It is not a sin to simply be alive. The only sin we carry from birth is Original sin of Adam and Eve. People do not just wake up one day and say "screw everything, I want to be gay and defy God". However we do defy God by judging others and being self righteous. We are not deities. It is not our place to decide who is following His word or not.
 
On a saltless note from a Christian and a conservative, I personally do not agree with homosexuality in the same sense that I disagree with other sins according to The Bible. There is no special place of hate in my heart for gays as I have gay friends and family, I simply follow my theistic moral values ahead of whatever social movements reach popular opinion that are not compatible with them.

I respect your ability to calmly state your opinions and beliefs in the midst of many who disagree with you. I have one honest question for you to ponder, however, why is homosexuality supposedly a sin that so many Christians feel that they must take action themselves to prevent? Is homosexuality excluded from the sins that Christ sacrificed himself for? Wouldn't they too be forgiven of these sins if they have faith? I am genuinely curious as to how this works.
 
I'm not sure how you've read that from what I've said. Jesus reiterated the truth of the Old Testament and defined marriage in a heterosexual manner himself. To wish that people would not live sinfully in accordance to what Jesus taught is in no way unlike Jesus, not that I'm claiming to be Christ-like as that would be immeasurably arrogant.

I stated that I wish all people well but believe that Jesus is the truth and ultimately living our lives in accordance to his teaching is what is best for everyone, though it is something not to be forced on others as then they have not truly changed sincerely in their hearts.

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People do not have a choice. They are born either gay or straight. God made them that way. It is not a sin to simply be alive. The only sin we carry from birth is Original sin of Adam and Eve. People do not just wake up one day and say "screw everything, I want to be gay and defy God". However we do defy God by judging others and being self righteous. We are not deities. It is not our place to decide who is following His word or not.

Without getting to heavy into an off topic debate. We are all born into sin or various types. People are born more likely to be unfaithful than others but that does not excuse the behaviour. Modern psychology says all sort of various human behavioural characteristics are based on genetics that we have no control over including some of the most heinous acts we commit to eachother.

If simply being born with tendencies is ground by which they are to be accepted it's a very slippery slope based on what is right and wrong. If according to Christ homosexual acts weren't sinful, then he wouldn't have stated that in accordance to God's law marriage is between and man and a woman, and the New Testament wouldn't have address the acts as perversions by which men and women lost themselves.

Anyway, I just think that people need to have a more sober perspective of both sides on this debate. Being Christian, even one that does not morally agree with homosexuality, does not make you a hateful bigot. And we have to understand that our governments represent millions of people of various faith and we cannot and really shouldn't want our particular religion mandated in a forceful manner even if in our hearts we believe it is the correct way. If can't didn't force himself on us, he can't force him on each other.
 
It's funny because there are a lot of straight men standing up for gay rights. Here's Doug Stanhope (comedian) in Bisbee, Arizona in a city council meeting giving a speech about equal rights (while the council members vote for gay marriage):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYel_9svhoc

and here is the winning vote for gay marriage (great speech from Stanhope):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xq4hwl8CiqY

This person is obliviously just stupid and this person doesn't realize that other people can help a cause.



Hahaha that's awesome! Way to stand up for yourself!

I just want to give you kudos because:

1. Karl Pilkington

2. You either watched the Ricky Gervais Show or listened to the podcasts to make the Dilkington reference :p
 
I'm not sure how you've read that from what I've said. Jesus reiterated the truth of the Old Testament and defined marriage in a heterosexual manner himself. To wish that people would not live sinfully in accordance to what Jesus taught is in no way unlike Jesus, not that I'm claiming to be Christ-like as that would be immeasurably arrogant.

I stated that I wish all people well but believe that Jesus is the truth and ultimately living our lives in accordance to his teaching is what is best for everyone, though it is something not to be forced on others as then they have not truly changed sincerely in their hearts.
Homosexuality isn't a sin and marriage is a man-made construct. And I'm far from an authority on the subject, but I believe Jesus was against nonsensical adherence to ancient dogma, which is exactly what religious-based opposition to marriage equality amounts to.
 
Orobo, I know this isn't you, but when saying that modern liberals can be intolerant-- nobody gets beaten up for being Christian in this nation. Or vandalized. Or evewn threatened. LGBT folk do *all the time*.

I'd say Christians don't even get criticized generally, unless it's specifically for their intolerant views of others.

Anyone ever call you "Christian" the way that one might be called "faggot?" Hell, I've been called "faggot" plenty and I'm straight.
 
I respect your ability to calmly state your opinions and beliefs in the midst of many who disagree with you. I have one honest question for you to ponder, however, why is homosexuality supposedly a sin that so many Christians feel that they must take action themselves to prevent? Is homosexuality excluded from the sins that Christ sacrificed himself for? Wouldn't they too be forgiven of these sins if they have faith? I am genuinely curious as to how this works.

To answer this, the main difference is that homosexual don't seek repentance or acknowledge their sin and for that are arrogant and defiant. This makes it kind of unique among other sins in today's culture. It is no more severe than any other sin all people are guilty of, but to seek Christ you need to be honest with your sin and seek forgiveness.
 
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