SwitchBladeKneegrow said:Check your NAT, back when I had DSL I rarely had problems with any game.
How do I check it?
And do you mean any game in general..or any game in Gears 2?
SwitchBladeKneegrow said:Check your NAT, back when I had DSL I rarely had problems with any game.
Sailor said:How do I check it?
And do you mean any game in general..or any game in Gears 2?
SwitchBladeKneegrow said:I jumped into a random player match earlier, and it was full of people talking about how much they hated the game and going on and on about it. Why would people spend time playing the game if they think it's trash? I don't get it.
So much complaining about the game, people either need to accept the faults of the game and learn to counter them, or move the fuck on!
CS 1.6 / CS:Sbimet said:Not saying Gears 2 is perfect but returning your copy and going back to the first seems a little extreme to me.
Eh, if a game deserves it, it deserves it.WretchedTruman said:My God, gamers are so cynical anymore; has there been one major release in recent history that hasn't been bitched out by sensitive fans? GTA IV, LBP, Gears 2, Resistance...nothing satisfies. : /
Or to make it xbox console applicable.Evonus said:CS 1.6 / CS:S
Ok? I wasn't talking in general. IMHO, the faults found in Gears 2 should not be a deal breaker to a fan of the series. Returning your copy because matchmaking is slow when it hasn't even been two weeks since the game has been released? Come on now.Evonus said:CS 1.6 / CS:S
therein lies the issue, though.raYne said:Eh, if a game deserves it, it deserves it.
Why shouldn't people be vocal about a dev screwing up aspects about a game? If anything, it's better for everyone since the devsmightshould take the feedback and fix whatever's wrong or at least ensure that it doesn't happen in their next game.
WretchedTruman said:therein lies the issue, though.
A great majority of the criticism I'm hearing anymore is "It's not what I'm used to! *panic*". That's simply not constructive criticism, in my eyes. Some issues are entirely objective, and absolutely demand criticism. But really, though, when fans weep for a return to the basics...that's just suppressing the evolution of the game play.
We rely too much on pointing out the negatives anymore. How can devs build upon what works when all we ever hear about is what doesnt?
Hell, maybe I'm just easy to please. But when the game is critically acclaimed on an almost universal scale, I think that people bitch just for the sake of bitching.
indeed. thisisneogafdude.gif quotes incoming.bimet said:Right on. Remember though, you are posting on GAF where we focus on nip picking the slightest flaws which ultimately destroy the ENTIRE game for us. "Sell your __, it's all over." etc etc etc.
WretchedTruman said:therein lies the issue, though.
A great majority of the criticism I'm hearing anymore is "It's not what I'm used to! *panic*". That's simply not constructive criticism, in my eyes. Some issues are entirely objective, and absolutely demand criticism. But really, though, when fans weep for a return to the basics...that's just suppressing the evolution of the game play.
We rely too much on pointing out the negatives anymore. How can devs build upon what works when all we ever hear about is what doesnt?
Hell, maybe I'm just easy to please. But when the game is critically acclaimed on an almost universal scale, I think that people bitch just for the sake of bitching.
Vustadumas said:I'm a Gears1 MP fanatic. Undoubtedly my most played game of the last 2 years. Played pretty much every night since it released. Gears2 did not evolve in the MP department, it devolved IMO. It's not just something you can totally just point out and say, ah that's the problem, it's just Gears2 feels so different. So many things contribute to that. The animation feels so soft now, and floaty. Shotgun has no umph to it anymore, and has been completely nerfed. For me, the shotgun was almost perfect in Gears1. Graphically, MP has taken a hit as well. It almost feels like a completely different team worked on the MP, while Epic concentrated on the SP.
It just all adds up to being a different game. Just not what I expected. Anyway, that's just my 2 cents.
web01 said:I hated the gears 1 multiplayer.
*lol lets roll around in circles and shoot each other with the shotty for over a minute*
All the multiplayer changes in gears 2 are for the better no doubt, the game is much more balanced and actually plays how the developers intended.
bimet said:There are people playing Gears of War 1 on my friends list because they weren't satisfied with the changes to the series. I don't know whether to laugh or feel embarrassed for them (these guys are around 40-50 years old and gears of war is all they're accustomed to. Good people) I'll just move on and let them play whatever makes them happy I guess.
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catfish said:eh people did this with halo as well.
Hellraizer said:The more I play the MP the more I love it. F the haters
I am a big fan of the first MP, played it for over 2 years till Gears 2 came out, I also was scared that it might turn out bad because of the changes, but the multiplayer feel of the first is still there. It's still Gears but just more polished. Some minor issues aside, I simply love it, a patch should make this game a even more better mp experience.
Penguin said:*Ponders*
Eh, I will get the achievement the old fashion way.
The Execution achievement is driving me crazy. Wish would tell me which was missing.
Aladuf said:Oh shit, you did send me a voice message last night didn't you? I just remembered that, I never got to listen to it because me and ThirdEngine were busy chugging away at our Insane co-op. If I had to guess though, you probably still need the Boomshield execution, everybody (including me) seems to not think of that one.
catfish said:eh people did this with halo as well.
Gears 2 is GREAT
Horde is probably the best thing about it as well. I got it last night and got too much of a late night. Got to level 18 on horde and completely fell apart. haha. wanted the level 20 achievement. How long does a match take if you make it to 50 though? must be a few hours
EDIT:
PLEASE EXPLAIN HOW THE CHAINSAW WORKS to me. I'm completely dumb with that thing
I have never, in gears 1 or 2 made it work successfully 2 times in a row. My chainsaw experience always goes like this
1. Run up behind locust who is facing away
2. make loud revving noise to get his attention
3. get beaten to death.
I simply don't understand how to cut someone in half with the thing. Am I supposed to be revving it while I run across the room? Is there a timing skill? Its freakin maddening because that chainsaw guns best feature is lost on me completely.
SwitchBladeKneegrow said:In general. To see what your NAT is, do a connection test from the dashboard. It'll tell you what you have.
kaizoku said:the rush of positivity threatens to overwhelm me! The only ways I can even conceive of anyone enjoying this multiplayer over Gears 1 are:
1) you play exclusively with people you know, so you're not REALLY in a position to pass judgement.
2) you sucked at gears 1 and the new methods have "reset" the field so you finally have a chance.
3) you're one of those who is perfectly happy to spam the smoke grenades/chainsaw and don't actually understand the original concept of stop and pop in the first place.
The first game was more stop and pop than this one. There is no way a smoke grenade orgy and a chainsaw massacre heaven is more stop and pop than the original. No way in hell. Feel free to convince me otherwise.
catfish said:eh people did this with halo as well.
Gears 2 is GREAT
Horde is probably the best thing about it as well. I got it last night and got too much of a late night. Got to level 18 on horde and completely fell apart. haha. wanted the level 20 achievement. How long does a match take if you make it to 50 though? must be a few hours
EDIT:
PLEASE EXPLAIN HOW THE CHAINSAW WORKS to me. I'm completely dumb with that thing
I have never, in gears 1 or 2 made it work successfully 2 times in a row. My chainsaw experience always goes like this
1. Run up behind locust who is facing away
2. make loud revving noise to get his attention
3. get beaten to death.
I simply don't understand how to cut someone in half with the thing. Am I supposed to be revving it while I run across the room? Is there a timing skill? Its freakin maddening because that chainsaw guns best feature is lost on me completely.
Hellraizer said:But hey, what to expect from someone who is claiming that Gears 1 is perfectly balanced. Why are some people angry that others are enjoying the Gears 2 multiplayer? Most of the people I encounter in Gears 2 which are not happy about it are bitter shotty-only players, who always screamed, bitched and yelled at you (and often kicked) if you ever dared to use anything else in Gears 1 except the Shotty and Sniper.
i wouldn't bother responding to him brah.Hellraizer said:1) How so? I also played enough matchmaking.
Yeah I just wanted to nullify the "You either sucked at Gears 1 or never used matchmaking" arguments. I wont defend the Gears 2 MP, as there is nothing to defend, I enjoy it as I enjoyed the first, that's all that matters to me.Chinner said:i wouldn't bother responding to him brah.
If someone is willing to adapt, he can enjoy the game and still stay competitive.The funny thing is that most of my kills in this game are from the Gnasher. My hammerburst probably has the second most amount of kills. I've been able to alter my gameplay style from Gears 1 and as a result I'm still getting plenty of shotgun kills and I've seen many other good Gears 1 players adapt to this as well.
Hi all,
We're aware that some folks are experiencing longer-than-ideal wait times while using the skill-based Public matchmaking in Gears 2 multiplayer. We're working on some solutions but it's a complicated issue as there isn't any one problem; it's a combination of factors. Clearly, scale is one of them as we've had millions of successful matches played online so far, however a small percentage of players are having issues, which is unacceptable. We're working closely with Microsoft to address the matchmaking issues, I promise you that it is our #1 priority, and we hope to have an update soon.
In the meantime, I would like to suggest some workarounds:
If you're experiencing long delays (longer than 2 minutes) or you're seeing your matchmaking search restarting over and over again, please try a different playlist as that indicates a possible population issue with the currently selected one.
The problem seems to be heightened for parties of 1 and parties of 4 so please try to invite at least one friend into your party before matchmaking. And of course the fastest way to play is to have a full 5 person party before looking for a match since you won't have to find any teammates beforehand. Fortunately our new "What's Up" feature makes finding Friends who're playing Gears 2 online easier.
Also, after a match, if you'd like to continue to play with the 9 people you just played with, simply press Y to look at the previous match stats and press X to invite them all to your party so you can continue to play in a Private match if they accept. Private matches, while not arbitrated, gives you the flexibility to set exactly which map and mode you want to play along with customizing other aspects of the game.
And as always, please ensure that your router is set correctly so that your NAT is considered "Open" by Xbox LIVE as "Moderate" and "Strict" NATs make Xbox LIVE matchmaking more difficult. There are many guides available online to walk you through the process of correctly configuring your router for Xbox LIVE so I won't go into the specific details here.
Also, in case you're curious, a few interesting facts about Gears 2 multiplayer so far:
* Almost 3 million multiplayer matches (excluding Private) have been played.
* Almost 1 million screenshot photos have been uploaded to gearsofwar.com
* The most popular multiplayer mode is Horde.
* The most popular multiplayer map across all modes is River.
* The most lethal weapon is the Gnasher shotgun with almost 29% of all kills.
Again, I apologize for any issues you may be having and I hope the above workarounds give you a better experience until we are able to correct the issues we're seeing.
Thanks,
Rod.
Just like Gears1, the in-engine cuscenes use much higher quality facial models than the gameplay does.PSGames said:The graphics in Gears 2 are just insane. I love the detail in the characters. Crappy pic:
http://i37.tinypic.com/2crn60j.jpg
I died so many times on that part.dark10x said:Playing through on insane now and having a blast. Anyone else run into trouble with the first rig section, though? It's the one area where I found myself repeating the segment over and over again (at least ten times). Taking out the mortars isn't too bad (once you know the pattern), but that reaver at the end of the segment gave me a hard time and everytime you die they force you to sit through a series of scripted events.
Things have been much smoother since clearing that bit, however. I'm appreciating the game a bit more on this run.
dark10x said:Playing through on insane now and having a blast. Anyone else run into trouble with the first rig section, though? It's the one area where I found myself repeating the segment over and over again (at least ten times). Taking out the mortars isn't too bad (once you know the pattern), but that reaver at the end of the segment gave me a hard time and everytime you die they force you to sit through a series of scripted events.
Things have been much smoother since clearing that bit, however. I'm appreciating the game a bit more on this run.
what graphical downgrade? River, for example, looks better than any of the snowy single player sections.Kolgar said:I gladly accept the MP graphical downgrade if that's what allowed the addition of BOTS.
To me, bots are the holy grail this game needed. Now I can play anytime I want, without having to worry if my friends are online or what kind of game I might wander into. Plus, it's a great way to practice up without looking like a n00b.
Thank you, Epic, for the bots.
Oddly enough, I found that using the shotgun made the mortar segment significantly easier. You need the turrent for taking out the reaver, however.catfish said::lol
It took me 10 (almost successful) runs through the mortar bit before I realised left trigger gives you a reticle for the big gun you are on. I passed it first go after that.
River is the only MP map that looks as nice as the Gears1 MP maps.REV 09 said:what graphical downgrade? River, for example, looks better than any of the snowy single player sections.
WretchedTruman said:therein lies the issue, though.
A great majority of the criticism I'm hearing anymore
I was playing with JFK and we started on my campaign and we got through most of ACT 4. My game saved but his didn't.
Run like hell, bounce off wall, roll, shotgun shotgun, repeat. That wasn't stop-and-pop. You just got used to doing it. Maybe you were really good at it.kaizoku said:Feel free to convince me otherwise.
_dementia said:Are you able to kinda still wallbounce in Gears2 or am I crazy?
Or on the floor/ground ya know....Dark FaZe said:I've underestimated the power of nades in this game. Whatever most of my teammates have been doing with them, they are doing it wrong.
I finally saw the light after some kid managed to get 20 kills on my team with them a couple of days ago. We still managed to win, but it wasn't until then that I noticed the fucking range on these things as well as the incredible spawn times.
The possibilities these things have are incredible. Rushing boom shot at River? No your not. Rushing Mortar on Pavilion? Think again. Not to mention the use of them for defensive purposes with slapping them on walls.