BlackM1st
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Well, that's... Unfortunate to say the least xD
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Genshin Impact |OT| 5.0 (Natlan) - Everything Changed When the Fire Nation Arrived
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Pejo
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Yea I think I'm finally going to break my WL at 1.4. I'm honestly beyond ready right now, but I figure what's another few weeks. Normal enemies can't even survive one level 2 charge shot with Ganyu as it is right now. I also like the fact that I'm soft capped at level 80 preventing me from stressing about getting characters and weapons to 90.
Fake
Member
Yeah, at this point the game need to make a very well warning about your capacity to beat the next AR, just like when you fail inside a farm dungeon appear that results telling you what your team force.
What people need to understand is forcing anything is not good. Some players spend very less in this game and because that they keep weak in comparison with move veteran 'MeTa' game.
Its up to the person if he is ready or not. If is already easy to beat your enemy and you have material to level up/ascend your char, you're good to go.
Anw, AR 60 now gain more instead of exp.
crumbs
Member
This is where I was at a couple weeks ago. I was getting bored staying at AR45, so I did the ascension quest and auto leveled up to AR49 right away (There is a larger than normal AR requirement going from 49 to 50). Honestly, the difficulty increase was pretty mild compared to the other WL changes. I should also say that drops are not much better, either
I think you need to be WL8 to get auto 5 star artifact drops from regular bosses.Now I've been thinking about doing the AR50 quest since things are still not too challenging, but I was worried about the world level automatically increasing at AR55 since there isn't another ascension quest. It's good to know that there will be an option to step back if things are too unbalanced.
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Pejo
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Some guy on reddit did the math, and spending daily free resin and doing daily comissions would take you like 2.5 years to get from AR 50 to AR 60 or something like that. The highest players right now are only 56 and those are whales buying max resin refills each day. There was already some speculation based on dev interviews that Inazuma and beyond is likely to further character progress by a completely different metric than Adventure Rank, so AR is really only there at this point to keep players from maxing out until the next region.
Those of you at AR 45+, how much mora do you get from one of the gold leylines? I'm capped at AR45 and I get 52,0000.
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Fake
Member
60 is soft cap, futureproof.
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Pejo
Member
It's actually the final hard cap if you read that dev interview. After 60, you will get mora instead of AR experience.
BlackM1st
Banned
60 for AR, 90 for Hero/Weapon level. MiHo sure loves to cap progression at random numbers...
I wonder whose banner is gonna be next. Venti? Together with Rosaria? Hm... Ok. But the REAL question is who will be on the banner after Venti? It cannot be Ayaka so maybe some random 2nd nation hero like a samurai guy with a spear? Would be great. So many easy skips...
I wonder whose banner is gonna be next. Venti? Together with Rosaria? Hm... Ok. But the REAL question is who will be on the banner after Venti? It cannot be Ayaka so maybe some random 2nd nation hero like a samurai guy with a spear? Would be great. So many easy skips...
Pejo
Member
Yaoyao, the first Dendro is mostly done in development according to leaks from a few months ago, and has lots of references in Liyue characters' voice lines. She's probably sooner than later. Who knows if she'll actually stay Dendro though.
BlackM1st
Banned
Ah, the squirrel girl? Nice. Another skip. Can't see her being anything more than a support and for support I would prefer to have QiQi or Jean.
Speaking about Hu Tao. I kinda feel sorry for all the Youtubers who will try to hype her up. They are already sound ridiculous lol.
Wow, you don't say! 5☆ with a 5☆ weapon doing some DMG, good enough for being a sub dps?! Yeah, you just need to learn the rotation and throw like 3 max lvl supports at her! xD
Next we will hear about how interesting her backstory is...
I'm actually ready to believe that she was a 4☆.
BTW my friend keeps pulling for her, still nothing after another 20 pulls.
Pejo
Member
If you look at her animations, she was almost definitely a 4*. I think Albedo probably was at some point too, but 4*s don't make $$$$$$.
Still, I'm actually pretty excited to pull for Hu Tao, I've read a few posts about how she's the perfect counterpart to Childe and am really excited to try that out. Well, in a month after I get her leveled and built up that is.
BlackM1st
Banned
xD
Nothing wrong with that, knowingly pulling for a character you want and like is absolutely ok and it's no one's business to tell you what to do with your time and money. Unless you will bring her into my fire domain farming lmao.
But I think many people will be deceived to believe that she's just as good as your Childe or Xiao for example. Shitty practice on MiHo part. I still can't believe they had balls to use Cryo slimes for her "test run" lol
Dregnel
Member
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Animationwise and kitwise she pretty much was a 4*. Trying her out via the trial there really isn't much to her outside of her dash showing dodge frames and a spammable charge attack.
She is very much a burst DPS that sacrifices some HP to deal pure Pyro damage for like 10 seconds and uses her Ult to heal that damage back up.
She has to do a bit more work then Ganyu for AoE and Ganyu's Ult is pretty much always up which unless you ~love Hu Tao~ then I see little reason to pull for her.
Especially if her dmg output is a bit misleading with Homa spear and +18 5* artifacts along with Cryo slimes taking more damage due to elemental weakness.
I can see some potential in a Dark Knight flavored Tank but eh. I feel overall what you get is a DPS support.
I don't think she's bad but her style just ain't me.
She is very much a burst DPS that sacrifices some HP to deal pure Pyro damage for like 10 seconds and uses her Ult to heal that damage back up.
She has to do a bit more work then Ganyu for AoE and Ganyu's Ult is pretty much always up which unless you ~love Hu Tao~ then I see little reason to pull for her.
Especially if her dmg output is a bit misleading with Homa spear and +18 5* artifacts along with Cryo slimes taking more damage due to elemental weakness.
I can see some potential in a Dark Knight flavored Tank but eh. I feel overall what you get is a DPS support.
I don't think she's bad but her style just ain't me.
BlackM1st
Banned
Fake
Member
Indeed. Better now.
Saber
Member
So...I get Hu Tao in my first attempt.
Gonna be completelly honest. I wasn't aiming for her. But...circumstances made me doing so. Seems like Xynian isn't a great character to cause elemental reactions, let alone do noticiable damage.
So I kinda force myself to pick her. Good news she went on my first attempt...wasn't really sure.
Gonna be completelly honest. I wasn't aiming for her. But...circumstances made me doing so. Seems like Xynian isn't a great character to cause elemental reactions, let alone do noticiable damage.
So I kinda force myself to pick her. Good news she went on my first attempt...wasn't really sure.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Not gonna bother. 21 days of checking in isn't worth 60 gems. And the cute check in mail that gives you 100 would equate to one free wish after 21 days. Hard pass. Now if they gave you 100 gems for every check in then it would be worth.
Saber
Member
If it wasn't for you, I would really forget this event stuff ever existed. Not the best of events to keep reminding people.
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crumbs
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One of the things l like about Ganyu is that she can be played/built in different ways: charge shot DPS, auto attack, burst DPS, plus her skill and burst have utility for a lot of team comps.
The last two new 5 stars are not nearly as versatile and force you into one basic play style. Xiao needs to be on the field with his burst active and you need a healer on the team to keep he alive. Hu Tao really only has value on the field and you need to follow the same pattern : skill & lose HP-> build energy -> burst to heal -> rinse and repeat.
Nothing wrong with on-field DPS characters, but it would be nice to see more interesting playstyles from the high end characters. Maybe the simple gameplay is an trade off to make the game more mobile friendly.
The last two new 5 stars are not nearly as versatile and force you into one basic play style. Xiao needs to be on the field with his burst active and you need a healer on the team to keep he alive. Hu Tao really only has value on the field and you need to follow the same pattern : skill & lose HP-> build energy -> burst to heal -> rinse and repeat.
Nothing wrong with on-field DPS characters, but it would be nice to see more interesting playstyles from the high end characters. Maybe the simple gameplay is an trade off to make the game more mobile friendly.
BlackM1st
Banned
Since Albedo we didn't got anything decent except for Cocogoat. (While before Albedo we got some really strong heroes) Works for me, but I can't say that GI would interested me with current banners if I was a newbie without any 5☆. New players definitely getting 2nd tier heroes compared to OG players. Maybe Venti banner needed for more than just a stop gap between new heroes. Maybe MiHo feels that new heroes aren't cutting it.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Ah good. Not everyone was fooled by the fake DPS numbers in test run.
BlackM1st
Banned
You can say that no one was fooled. Having numbers lower than Albedo is an achievement...People aren't that stupid and gullible, look at the electric cat numbers. Top tier waifu material, but no one wanted to waste money on standard hero. MiHo is getting too greedy and it's backfiring. I bet people would be way more exited for her if she was a 4☆. I think that the more people pull, the more exited they're.And it will lead to a bigger and healthier playerbase. Not many people wanna grind for months just to get 1 new hero.
Fuz
Banned
Where do you find this data?Money update:
Don't fall for the fabricated hype and cryo slimes test runs. Numbers never lie.
Dragon_Rocks
Member
Money update:
Don't fall for the fabricated hype and cryo slimes test runs. Numbers never lie.
More people pulled on Xiao than Ganyu.
Edit: Also Hu Tao banner has been out for just a day now. We have to wait and see how the stat looks like after the banner is done.
Edit2: My bad. I see that those are release day spikes.
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MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Oh I most certainly agree. Variety is the spice of life. 4*s are much more attainable and more people can try them out. 5* hero's require a lot of F2P currency or will require money and most of them need all their Constellations to feel complete.
I can't really invest in 5*s unless I get them by accident.
Give me more 5*s like Jean and I won't be sad. Who is amazing out of the gate and has not only decent damage but amazing utility.
These other 5*s I feel are lackluster all things considered.
The amount of wishes you put into 1 5* you can easily max a 4*'s Constellations and get a nice unit. Which I plan to do for Rosaria and maybe Shenli depending on their kit.
Dregnel
Member
More people pulled on Xiao than Ganyu.
Edit: Also Hu Tao banner has been out for just a day now. We have to wait and see how the stat looks like after the banner is done.
i saw alot people scared to pull on ganyu banner because the aim system and her gameplay, the most people are casual.
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Dragon_Rocks
Member
Oh yeah. I remember now that bow aiming is horrible for mobile users.
BlackM1st
Banned
Indeed. My friend has her but still afraid of soloing water boss just because he can't aim and he's playing on PC!
Xiao was SUPER hyped by devs/players and a lot of people really wanted him just for the looks. Being a 1 button miracle also helps immensely. Plus being a front page attraction for the Chinese New Year celebration is pretty important.
Maybe even 2 if you're already had some constellations on banner heroes. The problem is, most people don't pull on banners for 4☆, they pull only for 5☆ and skip the opportunity to have a C6 heroes.
Don't forget, that 90s 5☆ is only a 50/50 chance, so a lot of people are simply afraid to accidentally pull a 5☆ they don't want and lose their guarantee for a future hero. Imagine that, having a gacha system where people are afraid to pull and win!
So yeah, we can't blame people with resources being so limited and MiHo basically ignoring 4☆ existence because they're interested in far more lucrative 5☆.
But some 4☆ could have been a fucking stars of the game. Amber's design and personality is all around amazing, Razor has a fantastic move set, far more flashy and engaging than HuTao's or let alone Albedo's lol
Ning being a mastermind, defacto a city ruler and centerpiece character for the 2nd city's story is absolutely ignored while electric cat got all the attention despite being nothing more than a random quest character who bitched her way into story.
Still no news on PS5 native version too. So I dunno, maybe they're waiting for Inazuma? Sometimes I see no logic in GI release calendar.
Could it be same fucking people who wrote Albedo?
Pejo
Member
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Probably a few days before Hu Tao banner ends. I don't think Rosaria will be the only character. If she is I think people will lose interest fast if they put the focus on 5* reruns.
Saber
Member
Oh? You are questioning Amber's combat potential?
You're lucky they aren't GF levels of developer. Otherwise you would see damage overflow.
BlackM1st
Banned
Ahaha, no way xD Damn man, looks like you can safely skip Baal lmaoWell, I bought those wishes from the monthly store, used them immediately. Nothing on Hu Tao banner to speak of, but must have hit pity on the standard banner, and now...
I get it Keq, we have a thing. But can you just leave me alone for a while...
Dregnel
Member
they need to add an on/off button if you want to be healed more than 50% with hu tao, holy shit is even worse in co-op, she is so annoying to keep her full potential.
- if you hit alot monster with her Q you overfill your health
-even bennet overfill your health
-even the trap heals you
that is the reason why in honkai impact you have these on / off buttons in certain attributes.
some zhongli whales are mad to play with her using zghonli because his shield heals hu tao with a constellation.
- if you hit alot monster with her Q you overfill your health
-even bennet overfill your health
-even the trap heals you
that is the reason why in honkai impact you have these on / off buttons in certain attributes.
some zhongli whales are mad to play with her using zghonli because his shield heals hu tao with a constellation.
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Pejo
Member
I don't have her yet, so it's all conjecture, but I think she's meant to play as a fire applicator/sub dps that buffs team crit rate. I don't think she's supposed to be on field carry like everyone seems to be trying to force her into. That's why I actually got interested in her. I don't need another fire carry, but fire supports/lighters are always welcome for the powerful reactions and the usefulness of pyro is in general.they need to add an on/off button if you want to be healed more than 50% with hu tao, holy shit is even worse in co-op, she is so annoying to keep her full potential.
- if you hit alot monster with her Q you overfill your health
-even bennet overfill your health
-even the trap heals you
that is the reason why in honkai impact you have these on / off buttons in certain attributes.
some zhongli whales are mad to play with her using zghonli because his shield heals hu tao with a constellation.
I only wish her crit buff lasted a bit longer.
Saber
Member
Well, I bought those wishes from the monthly store, used them immediately. Nothing on Hu Tao banner to speak of, but must have hit pity on the standard banner, and now...
I get it Keq, we have a thing. But can you just leave me alone for a while...
I see that as a win.
Better her than Xingqiu
