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Genshin Impact |OT| 5.0 (Natlan) - Everything Changed When the Fire Nation Arrived
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BlackM1st
Banned
Sure. C3 just adds bigger numbers. That's it.
It doesn't change her mechanic at all.
I went balls deep because I got her weapon in 10. That's the only reason.
Now I will triple crown
her regardless if her Normal attacks are gonna be useful or not lol One ridiculous choice leads to another ridiculous choice...Yeah. Now world bosses can drop special item: Dream Solvent.
Use it in crafting to transform world boss drops.
You can transform drops only if they're from the same boss. You can't use Wolf's items to craft Tart's items.
Nice guide. I'll try to remember it when I will finally get anything worthy of her. So far I got 1 good art I think.I just remember this breakdown:
Fuz
Banned
Reizo Ryuu
Member
Fuz
Banned
I don't need to.
The chance for those things to happen is so astronomically low that shouldn't happen at all. It's like winning the lottery twice in a row.
Reizo Ryuu
Member
You are confusing odds with chance again, the chance never changes and is independent; just because you summoned jean, doesn't mean she has a lower chance to show up again. It's always a 20% chance.
And yes you actually do need to show 10k sample, because then you will see the chances actually present themselves; a bunch of people on reddit means jack shit.
InterMusketeer
Member
It's actually a 10% chance right? 50% chance of getting the featured 5 star character. The other 50% are divided by the original five 5 star characters.
The odds of losing the coin toss seven times in a row to the same character are incredibly low though, and extremely unlucky. Since there's millions of accounts there's bound to be a bunch of lucky and unlucky ones though.
Got Raiden Shogun today thanks to a late birthday gift. Time to fish and farm. I also hit pity on the standard banner, and got C1 Qiqi. Not exactly the best outcome, but I'm happy with Baal so whatever.
Reizo Ryuu
Member
Yes, I just meant there's a 1/5 chance for it to be jean every time you "lose" the 50/50.
BlackM1st
Banned
My static teams are:
Cocogoat - Geo Lord
Xiao - Jean
Tart - Beidou
Klee - Noelle
Ayaka - Mona
Keqing - Sucrose
That's what I'm using.
Never changed any duos. In every challenge got Gold on Extreme pretty easily.
Add corresponding Elemental bonuses and some gameplay bonuses that would benefit your main DD. Jumping for Xiao, charged attacks for Klee etc.
Lupingosei
Banned
With the new bosses and la Signora they really should upgrade the resin to 200 per day.
Revolutionary
Gold Member
Decided to pull for Raiden C2
Ended up with Qiqi C3 (who I don't use)
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Ended up with Qiqi C3 (who I don't use)
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Fake
Gold Member
Lupingosei
Banned
Roman Empire
Member
Actually, you are lucky because MiHoYo seems to be looking for ways to counter Zhongli and Bennett pretty soon with enemies that can negate shield effects and cause bleed to the whole party. It is all rumors because the source isn't that trustworthy but if those enemies really come in 2.2 or later, then we'll have a healing meta that will benefit healers who don't take too much time on the field to do their thing, or those who can deal damage while healing the whole team.
Those who benefit the more are:
- Kokomi - E can heal the whole party and she can still deal some damage even without Crit;
- DPS-Jean - Above-average DPS unit who can benefit from VV def shred and can Burst heal everyone in a switch-team, and can heal the whole party even with normal attacks;
- DPS-Qiqi - Not that useful compared to Jean since her E takes field time for her to heal the whole team plus her E generates no particles unless C1, but her passive and burst can still provide good off-field healing;
- Barbara - not a DPS option aside from memes, will benefit the most from the craftable catalyst Prototype Amber. However, her burst can heal the whole party. Good for switch comps and her C6 can revive the party without costing you the price of an average car;
- Bennett His burst is a no-brainer for most team comps. Is Pyro, so a plus. Can over-heal, so might be able to compensate for the health drain. However, he can't heal the whole party at once. Needing to change party members on-field can be a huge DPS loss for many teams, so we might finally see a meta where Bennett isn't King;
- Diona Same problems as Bennett but has a bigger disadvantage because her focus is the shield and higher burst cost and slower health regen. Might need to adjust her for a Favonius build with more energy recharge for the burst on healing instead of the sacrifice bow for more shield and particles;
- Noelle Our beloved maid-knight might suffer more because her gimmick is her shield. Better change her for a more DPS orientational and learn to dodge and attack the same because she can still heal the whole team, different from Bennett and Diona. C6 Noelle won't lose much of her value with these changes;
- Zhongli Our Geo dad will suffer the most unless you have him C6 for that healing, which is not viable for 99% of the community and only whale territory. But then again, whales generally don't deal with the game's mechanics because they have enough damage to kill anything easily with well-invested C6 R5 characters. I can see a great shift in the meta and new team comps forming thanks to these new enemies and mechanics.
Edit: Forget about Sayu. She is a budget Jean but without the healing through auto-attacks and her burst doesn't heal the same numbers as Jean unless you invest in her a lot.
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Fuz
Banned
Mostly, yeah. I was already using Ganyu and Childe and it's pretty good... except that I hit W by mistake a lot out of muscle memory and switch to bow -_- Childe shouldn't have a cooldown on his ele skill. That would help fix him.
BlackM1st
Banned
Bruh. It's already here.
Look at the new World Boss fight. You're burning and freezing regardless of your shields.
Same happened with previous World Boss. Geo Thicc Boi made everyone to use shields.
Roman Empire
Member
No, I know that much with Signora being the latest addition on that. But I'm talking about the wolves like enemies and the next leyline disorders aside from the next abyss update supposedly leaked on the latest beta test.
BlackM1st
Banned
All I'm saying is that the "new meta" is already here. Or at least the need in good healers is here.
Signora(Weekly Boss) is everything that matters to the wast majority of the playerbase.
Nobody gives a F about open world enemies. Bitches go down in flames regardless of their mechanics. Just spam your ultimates. That "strategy" never fails lol
Same with the Abyss. Most people doesn't go there at all + its rules are constantly shifting.
You think I build a new anemo hero just to use temporary Swirl bonuses in the Abyss? Or pulled for Xiao for his Abyss jumping bonuses? Nah man. Cocogoat goes Brrrrr regardless lol
So yeah, we need a good healer. But I'm sure as F doesn't recommend to pull for Kokomi lmao Use Barbie, people!
And QiQi C3... man, that's rough.
My condolences lol
BlackM1st
Banned
Fuz
Banned
Roman Empire
Member
I'd be avoiding Kokomi like the plague, but I gotta collect it.
Roman Empire
Member
WL7 is AR50, right? I think so. Drops don't get that better and enemies don't get that much different as well. I don't think there is any problem to level up your world level unless you are already struggling in your current WL. Anyways, if you regret ascending to WL7 you can always go back 1 WL down through the escape/paimon menu.
Edit: The only difference is when you reach WL8 where open-world bosses reward a guaranteed 5* artifact at every kill. Drops in this game are a joke anyway. A guaranteed 5* is only good if it has good substats, so the grind is the same as always.
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BlackM1st
Banned
IIRC After breaking into WL7, WL8 will unlock automatically when you reach the exp limit. So WL6 will become blocked. Regardless, I still think that 1 good 5☆ main carry is enough for WL8. After 1 year, most people should have enough resources to raise 1 main DD and 1 support.
YukiOnna
Member
It's OK. Ganyu just going to need to do more OT.
Roman Empire
Member
Yes, WL7 and WL8 are not this monster people painted out to be early in the game's life cicly. You just need one good DPS unit and support to clear the overworld without any problems. People bitch too much about units, but even scuffed builds can carry overworld content.
Fuz
Banned
BlackM1st
Banned
Yeah, just because you will use your resin with maximum efficiency without losing anything.
If we talk about "does WL8 rewards are much better?" I would say no. But its difficulty also isn't that much harder.
I say go for it if you can, just be sure to be ready and don't rush it.
Revolutionary
Gold Member
Absolutely. 2 boss drops guaranteed per run was worth it alone in my experience. I had a good two months without the drop I needed from Dvalin, and the moment I ascended it dropped two of what I needed lol. In my experience, the drops from random enemies have been more generous as well (aka more drops and more often at a higher rarity).
People who still play in WL6 despite having a good team are literally just hamstringing their progression out of fear... over nothing!
Fake
Gold Member
Depends. IMO no because make enemis like sponge and the drops not too worthy unless world boss.
Its up to you. I would suggest watch youtube videos showing comparisons.
If you don't like just downgrade the WL.
Fuz
Banned
You don't need WL7 for last level of Dvalin or the other weekly bosses.
He's gonna go straight to 8, I think.
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Revolutionary
Gold Member
I never said you needed WL7 for the last difficulty, I said WL7 GUARANTEES at least 2 drops from world bosses per week - WL6 is just a chance for a second. WL8 also adds a third drop chance. If you're upgrading your characters Talents in the 7-10 range, then increasing the drop rates is a no-brainer to me.
IDK, I fell for the "don't upgrade your world level" Youtuber trap for a few weeks but realized it wasn't to my benefit at all. So what if overworld enemies take a few more seconds to kill? The increased drop rates all across the board are WELL worth it IMO
InterMusketeer
Member
This game's pretty easy already. Even with my limited roster and shoddily built characters, enemies die quite fast. Even if there's few advantages to increase WL, I'd still do it. I made the jump a few months ago and definitely don't understand why people keep making such a big deal of it.
Fuz
Banned
Again, you mentioned Dvalin. And you don't need WL7 for two talent item drops from weekly bosses. I am WL6 downgraded to 5 and I always get two talent item drops.
Fake
Gold Member
Dvalin drops Gladiator/Wanderer trope artifact, IDK why is a big deal taking into consideration the new artifact dungeons.
Maybe in the first week of Genshin Impact life, people started to play from zero, so no complains over every drop.
Right now I have >800 artifact, most of them useless Glad/Wand. World boss/Week boss are not even good for farming lvl artifacts. Just for lvl up talents.
Maybe in the first week of Genshin Impact life, people started to play from zero, so no complains over every drop.
Right now I have >800 artifact, most of them useless Glad/Wand. World boss/Week boss are not even good for farming lvl artifacts. Just for lvl up talents.
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Reizo Ryuu
Member
I still can't get over how great of an addition Fischl was to the game, the amount of support she gives this team is bonkers. And they all combo perfectly together so it also looks sexy as fuck.
Pejo
Gold Member
Welp, I'm back home after a weekend away at the beach. Playing on mobile for any serious type of content is damn near impossible. My hats off to anyone that does that shit. I was having a real struggle just beating dailies and Mondstadt xp leylines so I didn't let my resin overcharge with those damn touch controls. I don't see how any mobile-only players are actually beating any of the fighting challenge events, much less spiral abyss. Why the fuck have they not allowed controller support on Android yet?
Fuz
you make it through the event yet? Looks like you got some good advice in the thread. I got just shy of 2700 points on today's, after catching up. Everything lined up perfectly for the team layout I've been using since day 1. I love that I'm getting to use a lot of my characters, feels great after all the grinding to build them up.
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New enemy type for 2.2
Fuz
you make it through the event yet? Looks like you got some good advice in the thread. I got just shy of 2700 points on today's, after catching up. Everything lined up perfectly for the team layout I've been using since day 1. I love that I'm getting to use a lot of my characters, feels great after all the grinding to build them up.*edit*
New enemy type for 2.2
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YukiOnna
Member
Is that a new Inazuma enemy?Welp, I'm back home after a weekend away at the beach. Playing on mobile for any serious type of content is damn near impossible. My hats off to anyone that does that shit. I was having a real struggle just beating dailies and Mondstadt xp leylines so I didn't let my resin overcharge with those damn touch controls. I don't see how any mobile-only players are actually beating any of the fighting challenge events, much less spiral abyss. Why the fuck have they not allowed controller support on Android yet?
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New enemy type for 2.2
Wish it looked more like the inu yokai on the right:
