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Genshin Impact |OT| 5.0 (Natlan) - Everything Changed When the Fire Nation Arrived

BlackM1st

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Pejo

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Lol. So all the balance and kit issues right now with various characters in the game, and what did MHY spend their time on? A stealth nerf to Lisa for fucks sake. Her tap elemental skill used to give a particle on hit, and now it doesn't.

Thank god they fixed all those Lisa mains exploiting this amazing bug. That ought to take her down a tier in the tier list.
 
BlackM1st

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Pejo said:
Lol. So all the balance and kit issues right now with various characters in the game, and what did MHY spend their time on? A stealth nerf to Lisa for fucks sake. Her tap elemental skill used to give a particle on hit, and now it doesn't.

Thank god they fixed all those Lisa mains exploiting this amazing bug. That ought to take her down a tier in the tier list.
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That's hilarious and sad lol
 
Fake

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Pejo said:
Lol. So all the balance and kit issues right now with various characters in the game, and what did MHY spend their time on? A stealth nerf to Lisa for fucks sake. Her tap elemental skill used to give a particle on hit, and now it doesn't.

Thank god they fixed all those Lisa mains exploiting this amazing bug. That ought to take her down a tier in the tier list.
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I really can't take that serious. Lisa is one of the worst chars in the game and I use her a lot. The priority this game is getting to balance is getting out of control.
 
InterMusketeer

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Fake said:
I really can't take that serious. Lisa is one of the worst chars in the game and I use her a lot. The priority this game is getting to balance is getting out of control.
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It's also a character hardly anyone uses and who has been in the game for a full year. Strange to focus on her all of a sudden. Hopefully it's just one part of a bigger balancing update.
 
YukiOnna

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Pejo said:
Lol. So all the balance and kit issues right now with various characters in the game, and what did MHY spend their time on? A stealth nerf to Lisa for fucks sake. Her tap elemental skill used to give a particle on hit, and now it doesn't.

Thank god they fixed all those Lisa mains exploiting this amazing bug. That ought to take her down a tier in the tier list.
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Thank god they didn't remove her climbing voicelines tho
 
Saber

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YukiOnna said:
This is just stupid imo. Why not do it without this kind of thing?
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Might be, but its not like Miyoho didn't act as some stupify kid that couldn't deal with leakers so shots fires at all directions.
Makes no difference whatsoever. Its not like Mi suddenly gets their respect back with all these questionable choices, ranging from weirds nerfs and attacking harmless sites.
 
Pejo

Pejo

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So for comparison's sake, here's the CN current anniversary for Honkai, for those interested.



In Genshin equivalent resources (where possible), here's what it is.

  • 25 limited wishes
  • 800ish primogems + slightly higher than usual patch rewards primogems. Honkai is actually a little more stingy with their currency if you can believe it.
  • Build a banner for select weapons
  • Select from a pool of 3 free 5* rank characters, or the equivalent of 1-2 constellations
  • Free highly requested previously unplayable 4* character (let's say Signora) and a high synergy 4* weapon for them for doing story quest
  • Spending event where wishes and primos spent go towards a pool that you can select stuff from, not really a genshin equivalent other than a 5* character.
  • Also from spending wishes/resources a high quality outfit with effects.
  • 5* character outfit free from event - mediocre quality. Think of it like a waiter Zhongli costume or something. CN fan favorite character but boring costume
  • Bunch of materials like ore/xp writs. A little more valuable than that, but Genshin doesn't currently have an equivalent.

So essentially, it's not as big a deal as the community was led to believe. A lot of nice freebies, but a usual patch has roughly the same rewards spread over time. The free S rank valkyries and shards are better than average rewards, but the free ones are all from older outdated and powercrept characters. The build-a-banner is interesting, and as far as I know has never been done before.

Still, better than 10 wishes and some fowl that have been announced for Genshin so far.
 
Saber

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Pejo said:
So for comparison's sake, here's the CN current anniversary for Honkai, for those interested.



In Genshin equivalent resources (where possible), here's what it is.

  • 25 limited wishes
  • 800ish primogems + slightly higher than usual patch rewards primogems. Honkai is actually a little more stingy with their currency if you can believe it.
  • Build a banner for select weapons
  • Select from a pool of 3 free 5* rank characters, or the equivalent of 1-2 constellations
  • Free highly requested previously unplayable 4* character (let's say Signora) and a high synergy 4* weapon for them for doing story quest
  • Spending event where wishes and primos spent go towards a pool that you can select stuff from, not really a genshin equivalent other than a 5* character.
  • Also from spending wishes/resources a high quality outfit with effects.
  • 5* character outfit free from event - mediocre quality. Think of it like a waiter Zhongli costume or something. CN fan favorite character but boring costume
  • Bunch of materials like ore/xp writs. A little more valuable than that, but Genshin doesn't currently have an equivalent.

So essentially, it's not as big a deal as the community was led to believe. A lot of nice freebies, but a usual patch has roughly the same rewards spread over time. The free S rank valkyries and shards are better than average rewards, but the free ones are all from older outdated and powercrept characters. The build-a-banner is interesting, and as far as I know has never been done before.

Still, better than 10 wishes and some fowl that have been announced for Genshin so far.
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I say the money is making them ahead of themselves(specially after Baal earnings). Losing players maybe will make them reconsider.
 
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BlackM1st

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Pejo said:
So for comparison's sake, here's the CN current anniversary for Honkai, for those interested.



In Genshin equivalent resources (where possible), here's what it is.

  • 25 limited wishes
  • 800ish primogems + slightly higher than usual patch rewards primogems. Honkai is actually a little more stingy with their currency if you can believe it.
  • Build a banner for select weapons
  • Select from a pool of 3 free 5* rank characters, or the equivalent of 1-2 constellations
  • Free highly requested previously unplayable 4* character (let's say Signora) and a high synergy 4* weapon for them for doing story quest
  • Spending event where wishes and primos spent go towards a pool that you can select stuff from, not really a genshin equivalent other than a 5* character.
  • Also from spending wishes/resources a high quality outfit with effects.
  • 5* character outfit free from event - mediocre quality. Think of it like a waiter Zhongli costume or something. CN fan favorite character but boring costume
  • Bunch of materials like ore/xp writs. A little more valuable than that, but Genshin doesn't currently have an equivalent.

So essentially, it's not as big a deal as the community was led to believe. A lot of nice freebies, but a usual patch has roughly the same rewards spread over time. The free S rank valkyries and shards are better than average rewards, but the free ones are all from older outdated and powercrept characters. The build-a-banner is interesting, and as far as I know has never been done before.

Still, better than 10 wishes and some fowl that have been announced for Genshin so far.
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Yeah, GI done goofed 🤪 again.

Same with skins.

Same with collabs. Horizon collab is a total joke. Nobody gives a F about it.

Boggles my mind tbh, why MiHo is treating GI so bad regarding this stuff.
 
YukiOnna

YukiOnna

Member
Pejo said:
So for comparison's sake, here's the CN current anniversary for Honkai, for those interested.



In Genshin equivalent resources (where possible), here's what it is.

  • 25 limited wishes
  • 800ish primogems + slightly higher than usual patch rewards primogems. Honkai is actually a little more stingy with their currency if you can believe it.
  • Build a banner for select weapons
  • Select from a pool of 3 free 5* rank characters, or the equivalent of 1-2 constellations
  • Free highly requested previously unplayable 4* character (let's say Signora) and a high synergy 4* weapon for them for doing story quest
  • Spending event where wishes and primos spent go towards a pool that you can select stuff from, not really a genshin equivalent other than a 5* character.
  • Also from spending wishes/resources a high quality outfit with effects.
  • 5* character outfit free from event - mediocre quality. Think of it like a waiter Zhongli costume or something. CN fan favorite character but boring costume
  • Bunch of materials like ore/xp writs. A little more valuable than that, but Genshin doesn't currently have an equivalent.

So essentially, it's not as big a deal as the community was led to believe. A lot of nice freebies, but a usual patch has roughly the same rewards spread over time. The free S rank valkyries and shards are better than average rewards, but the free ones are all from older outdated and powercrept characters. The build-a-banner is interesting, and as far as I know has never been done before.

Still, better than 10 wishes and some fowl that have been announced for Genshin so far
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Wonder if we'll get anything similar to some degree on the Anniversary stream or not...
 
Pejo

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YukiOnna said:
Wonder if we'll get anything similar to some degree on the Anniversary stream or not...
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Hope so, I still think the most crowd pleasing thing they could offer is a universal 5* constellation item. I doubt that even mega whales have all 5* characters at C6. That'd be an amazing 1-2 times per year gift that wouldn't kill their bottom line or hurt their banners that would make everyone happy in some way or another.
 
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Reizo Ryuu

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Pejo said:
So essentially, it's not as big a deal as the community was led to believe. A lot of nice freebies, but a usual patch has roughly the same rewards spread over time. The free S rank valkyries and shards are better than average rewards, but the free ones are all from older outdated and powercrept characters.
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Dunno about that, rosemary is awesome, can't imagine my lightning team without her; got her pri-arm and she definitely doesn't disappoint.
VK and AK are not that great yeah.
Mostly interested in that collapse eye though, having access to instant qua collapse should be a game changer.
 
Pejo

Pejo

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Reizo Ryuu said:
Dunno about that, rosemary is awesome, can't imagine my lightning team without her; got her pri-arm and she definitely doesn't disappoint.
VK and AK are not that great yeah.
Mostly interested in that collapse eye though, having access to instant qua collapse should be a game changer.
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True, Rosemary is great. I guess since she was "free" I was undervaluing her. She's even a top Lightning DPS on her own.

I am a little salty though, her Ult is the only thing in the game that fucks up my TV. It just shuts off when I use it, so I have to ignore that part of her kit if I'm not playing on my phone. Shit sucks.
 
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Reizo Ryuu

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Pejo said:
I am a little salty though, her Ult is the only thing in the game that fucks up my TV. It just shuts off when I use it
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That's really odd...have you tried reinstalling? I don't think anything should be able to do that, unless it's somehow forcing a different refreshrate or colour space when doing that attack, which is even weirder. :lollipop_confused:
 
YukiOnna

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Raiden's current performance in CN from reddit.
  1. Venti: $30.11 million
  2. Raiden(Current): $28.46 million
  3. Klee: $22.28 million
  4. Ganyu: $16.38 million
  5. Zhongli: $16.26 million
  6. Venti (Rerun): $16.04 million
  7. Ayaka: $ 15.77 million
  8. Tartaglia: $13.44 million($13,443,619)
  9. Hu Tao: $13.44 million ($13,443,462)
  10. Eula: 13.15 million
  11. Xiao: $12.57 million
  12. Albedo: $11.10 million
  13. Kazuha: 10.25 million
  14. Zhongli (Rerun): $9.83 million
  15. Yoimiya: $9.30 million
  16. Keqing: $9.13 million ($3.62 million before Homa)
  17. Tartaglia (Rerun): $7.40 million
  18. Klee (Rerun): $6.56 million
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Basically about to surpass Venti.

She is also about to surpass Zhongli in Japan and maybe reach or dethrone Ganyu depending on how her remaining days go. She hasn't really budged much from the top ranking since her banner went up there.
 
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Pejo

Pejo

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Reizo Ryuu said:
That's really odd...have you tried reinstalling? I don't think anything should be able to do that, unless it's somehow forcing a different refreshrate or colour space when doing that attack, which is even weirder. :lollipop_confused:
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I don't get it either. It's not like her Ult is the only thing in the game that causes screen flashes and effects. Maybe I'll throw a question at support.

YukiOnna said:
Raiden's current performance in CN from reddit.
  1. Venti: $30.11 million
  2. Raiden(Current): $28.46 million
  3. Klee: $22.28 million
  4. Ganyu: $16.38 million
  5. Zhongli: $16.26 million
  6. Venti (Rerun): $16.04 million
  7. Ayaka: $ 15.77 million
  8. Tartaglia: $13.44 million($13,443,619)
  9. Hu Tao: $13.44 million ($13,443,462)
  10. Eula: 13.15 million
  11. Xiao: $12.57 million
  12. Albedo: $11.10 million
  13. Kazuha: 10.25 million
  14. Zhongli (Rerun): $9.83 million
  15. Yoimiya: $9.30 million
  16. Keqing: $9.13 million ($3.62 million before Homa)
  17. Tartaglia (Rerun): $7.40 million
  18. Klee (Rerun): $6.56 million
fozfiguib7n71.png


Basically about to surpass Venti.

She is also about to surpass Zhongli in Japan and maybe reach or dethrone Ganyu depending on how her remaining days go. She hasn't really budged much from the top ranking since her banner went up there.
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It's weird how off all of these graphs are from one another in the reddit thread. Also crazy is that the chart you posted was JUST iOS and JUST in China.

Holy money.
 
YukiOnna

YukiOnna

Member
Pejo said:
I don't get it either. It's not like her Ult is the only thing in the game that causes screen flashes and effects. Maybe I'll throw a question at support.


It's weird how off all of these graphs are from one another in the reddit thread. Also crazy is that the chart you posted was JUST iOS and JUST in China.

Holy money.
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I'm curious how each respective site calculates its estimates. Unfortunately for North America, we have to pay to get exact data from places like SensorTower unless they make an article about it. Yeah, if we bring in Android for CN, it's going to be bonkers.
 
Fake

Fake

Member
YukiOnna said:
Raiden's current performance in CN from reddit.
  1. Venti: $30.11 million
  2. Raiden(Current): $28.46 million
  3. Klee: $22.28 million
  4. Ganyu: $16.38 million
  5. Zhongli: $16.26 million
  6. Venti (Rerun): $16.04 million
  7. Ayaka: $ 15.77 million
  8. Tartaglia: $13.44 million($13,443,619)
  9. Hu Tao: $13.44 million ($13,443,462)
  10. Eula: 13.15 million
  11. Xiao: $12.57 million
  12. Albedo: $11.10 million
  13. Kazuha: 10.25 million
  14. Zhongli (Rerun): $9.83 million
  15. Yoimiya: $9.30 million
  16. Keqing: $9.13 million ($3.62 million before Homa)
  17. Tartaglia (Rerun): $7.40 million
  18. Klee (Rerun): $6.56 million
fozfiguib7n71.png


Basically about to surpass Venti.

She is also about to surpass Zhongli in Japan and maybe reach or dethrone Ganyu depending on how her remaining days go. She hasn't really budged much from the top ranking since her banner went up there.
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Maybe explain 'why' they want to wipe Honey Impact. Probably project even more sales.
 
BlackM1st

BlackM1st

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michaelius said:
hmm there were some leaks that she is together with Yae but i'm not sure how accurate they are.
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Yeah man, any re-run is a mystery and can be dropped on us any moment because heroes data is old and already in game.

There's no way for simple data miners to tell us when re-run is coming. For that we need a proper leakers with an inside knowledge of MiHoYo release calendar.

But logic says that if MiHo wants to make money going with Tart's 3rd banner is simply idiotic:
YukiOnna said:
  1. Venti: $30.11 million
  2. Raiden(Current): $28.46 million
  3. Klee: $22.28 million
  4. Ganyu: $16.38 million
  5. Zhongli: $16.26 million
  6. Venti (Rerun): $16.04 million
  7. Ayaka: $ 15.77 million
  8. Tartaglia: $13.44 million($13,443,619)
  9. Hu Tao: $13.44 million ($13,443,462)
  10. Eula: 13.15 million
  11. Xiao: $12.57 million
  12. Albedo: $11.10 million
  13. Kazuha: 10.25 million
  14. Zhongli (Rerun): $9.83 million
  15. Yoimiya: $9.30 million
  16. Keqing: $9.13 million ($3.62 million before Homa)
  17. Tartaglia (Rerun): $7.40 million
  18. Klee (Rerun): $6.56 million
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Makes no sense to me. Sure, data mine shows a new bow, but is it really a good enough reason for his re-run?
 
YukiOnna

YukiOnna

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Logic dictates you can either re-run Ganyu, Xiao, Hu Tao and make decent money. Especially since 2.2 is October and Halloween Hu Tao makes sense. I don't know if they'll do that though, they have already run Childe twice and while he did fine in JP (I don't know NA) it would run its course if you did a 3rd banner so quickly.
 
Pejo

Pejo

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This is from a reddit post of a 4chan post, so don't believe everything you read, but this could be huge.
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This gives a little more credence to the Ayato (Ayaka's brother) - Hydro Claymore rumor as well as shows a potential manual target lock on.
 
Pejo

Pejo

Member
BlackM1st said:
I don't get it. Target lock for claymore user? Um... Is it souls like fighting or I'm missing something in here? Or it's about his skill/ult? Something similar to Jean's skill?
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I was reading it as a new base feature, to allow us to finally select and lock a target. If it's just for his skill, that's a lot less exciting.
 
BlackM1st

BlackM1st

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Pejo said:
I was reading it as a new base feature, to allow us to finally select and lock a target. If it's just for his skill, that's a lot less exciting.
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Ah, a new target lock on in-game feature?

Well, let's wait and see. I know that on mobile it's kinda a necessity. Playing on mobile is basically a hard mode.

BTW if he's really a new water type and will be a EULA/Diluc like DMG dealer having a Tart re-run before him would be such a dick move from MiHo that I kinda want to see it just for meltdowns.
 
Fake

Fake

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Best fanart ever.


Pejo said:
This is from a reddit post of a 4chan post, so don't believe everything you read, but this could be huge.
m2xy8hpe9bn71.jpg


This gives a little more credence to the Ayato (Ayaka's brother) - Hydro Claymore rumor as well as shows a potential manual target lock on.
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Huge if true.
 
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michaelius

Banned
Dragon_Rocks said:
Anyone here who plays on PS4/PS5? If yes do you have an issue with getting the daily log in bonus when you log in using PS4/Ps5?
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Are you leaving Genshin open and put console into sleep when you finished playing ? If you wake-up console next day it won't show welkin animation but you still get 90 primos.
 
Dragon_Rocks

Dragon_Rocks

Member
michaelius said:
Are you leaving Genshin open and put console into sleep when you finished playing ? If you wake-up console next day it won't show welkin animation but you still get 90 primos.
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No. I never put PS5 on rest as it causes it to crash sometimes. But the issue resolved on its own from yesterday and I can get the bonus properly. Looks like it was a sync issue.
 
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