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[Muffin1611]

Lmao, shots fired by Merkel and fired back again

 

[Shiggy]

Having them argue with each other is so much more amusing.

 

[Nibel]

Gotta admit: top-tier banter by both candidates

 

[paperboywriter]

I have to say that I like Schulz more than Merkel in this TV-Duell. Merkel is just to evasive.

Me too, but she is a better politician.

 

[Muffin1611]

Having them argue with each other is so much more amusing.

The moderators should just be quiet for a minute!

 

[Realyn]

More money for everyone, hardline against all the bad leaders of the world, sudden 180's when it comes to Turkey or Maut, acting as if Merkel=whole party ...

He's fucked. People like to buy into some bullshit. This was sadly too much bullshit to buy into.

 

[Ladekabel]

Everyone was talking. I didn't understand if Schulz said the Linke is a viable coalition partner for the SPD or not. Anyone got it?

 

[dakun]

Everyone was talking. I didn't understand if Schulz said the Linke is a viable coalition partner for the SPD or not. Anyone got it?

i understood something about wanting SPD to be strong and if anyone wants to talk coalition they can come to them..

 

[paperboywriter]

Everyone was talking. I didn't understand if Schulz said the Linke is a viable coalition partner for the SPD or not. Anyone got it?

He said yes

 

[Oynox]

Everyone was talking. I didn't understand if Schulz said the Linke is a viable coalition partner for the SPD or not. Anyone got it?

He did not answer to it directly. He only stated that he wants to make the SPD as strong as possible.

 

[Salty Rice]

I have to say that I like Schulz more than Merkel in this TV-Duell. Merkel is just to evasive.

Totally agree.

Also jesus what terrible moderators.

 

[ElTorro]

Das Smartphone.

 

[Bitch Pudding]

Not denying a coalition with Die Linke is going to mobilise conservative voters for sure.

 

[PdotMichael]

Smartphones are new for us all.

 

[Muffin1611]

Schlusswort by Schulz was better imo.

 

[Maedre]

Totally agree.

Also jesus what terrible moderators.

Extremely terrible.

Yeah The last word of Schulz were better, but I am a pro Europa guy.

 

[Xando]

Not denying a coalition with Die Linke is going to mobilise conservative voters for sure.

Yeah that killed the little chance he had left

 

[Porcupine]

Smartphone confirmed Neuland

 

[paperboywriter]

Ich bin ein smart phone

 

[ISee]

Kids need better education because of smartphones.

 

[Ladekabel]

The whole thing was pointless.

i understood something about wanting SPD to be strong and if anyone wants to talk coalition they can come to them..

He said yes

He did not answer to it directly. He only stated that he wants to make the SPD as strong as possible.

Thanks. Guess he and the SPD is done then.

 

[Muffin1611]

Not denying a coalition with Die Linke is going to mobilise conservative voters for sure.

Why would he? I don't see SPD getting strong enough to come by with just The Greens as coalition partner anytime soon.

They're about the only chance they have.

 

[PdotMichael]

Yeah that killed the little chance he had left

Rather the opposite. A coalition with the Linke means to have a somehow a realistic chance for kicking out Merkel.

 

[Xando]

Nothing on education or infrastructure but 1 hour on migration

Fucking media

Rather the opposite. A coalition with the Linke means to have a somehow a realistic chance for kicking out Merkel.

He's not gonna get a majority with red red green. Center votes won't vote for you if you do a coalition with linke or afd

 

[Pennywise]

Why would he? I don't see SPD getting strong enough to come by with just The Greens as coalition partner anytime soon.

They're about the only chance they have.

It's not just the SPD after all.
Greens lost just far too much lately.

 

[paperboywriter]

I think she won clearly tonight. Not changing my vote though.

 

[chadskin]

Mehrere Hundert Menschen haben sich während des TV-Duells in geheimen Chaträumen organisiert, um die Diskussion über Angela Merkel und Martin Schulz auf Twitter zu beeinflussen. BuzzFeed News hat Zugang zu den Chaträumen, in denen sich die rechten Aktivisten organisieren. Deren Ziel ist es, mit fremdenfeindlichen Fotos und Memes Stimmung gegen CDU und SPD zu machen und der AfD zu einem Aufwind in den sozialen Netzwerken zu verhelfen.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/karstensch...il1?utm_term=.qnv6NbjX7&bftwdenews#.tm0RlpOXx

 

[Realyn]

What a shame Merkel couldn't reply with "I want a strong ... drumroll please ... Germany.". Dead.

 

[PdotMichael]

He's not gonna get a majority with red red green. Center votes won't vote for you if you do a coalition with linke or afd

Center voters wouldn't vote SPD anyway.

Not killing off a coalition with the Linke means an alternative to another 4 years of CDU/SPD.

 

[TCRS]

le EU man btfo

 

[kingkaiser]

Certain "Conservatives" being triggered just by the thought of a progressive left coalition is embarrassing, all the more when considering the LINKE is just the SPD from the 70s.

 

[paperboywriter]

It is kind of hard to understand that the spd can't come up with a better candidate even if the cdu is economically in a better position.

 

[Muffin1611]

He's not gonna get a majority with red red green. Center votes won't vote for you if you do a coalition with linke or afd

Not surprising considering most Centrist voters seem to think a Linke coalition would be the doom of us all.

It's still their only chance with this weak of an SPD and Greens.

 

[PdotMichael]

SPD needs to end the race to the center. They lost that race against the CDU.

 

[Maedre]

Center voters wouldn't vote SPD anyway.

Not killing off a coalition with the Linke means an alternative to another 4 years of CDU/SPD.

We need a term without a Groko. The SPD needs time in the opposition. I don’t think that the SPD has a realistic chance but we need a big opposition and no Groko.

 

[Ladekabel]

SPD needs to end the race to the center. They lost that race against Merkel.

FTFY

 

[Xando]

https://www.buzzfeed.com/karstensch...il1?utm_term=.qnv6NbjX7&bftwdenews#.tm0RlpOXx

So just like in the US?

SPD needs to end the race to the center. They lost that race against the CDU.

Which will doom them for the next 10 years. You won't get a majority without the center votes.

Their problem isn't the race to the center but Merkel being a centrist(Atleast left from the usual CDU)

 

[Shiggy]

So now we are getting the Musterklage over night, and something will happen with the Turkey relations. The TV duel had something productive there.

 

[Bitch Pudding]

Certain "Conservatives" being triggered just by the thought of a progressive left coalition is embarrassing, all the more when considering the LINKE is just the SPD from the 70s.

That maybe embarrassing but it's also a well-known and well-documented effect.

 

[ISee]

I missed a no to another cdu-spd coalition from Schulz. I'm not voting SPD to support Merkel.

 

[PdotMichael]

Which will doom them for the next 10 years. You won't get a majority without the center votes.

So what is the difference to the actual situation now? Accepting the fate of being the junior partner of the CDU?

 

[Xando]

So now we are getting the Musterklage over night, and something will happen with the Turkey relations. The TV duel had something productive there.

We also know pension age will be raised to 70 since Merkel denied it.

So what is the difference to the actual situation now? Accepting the fate of being the junior partner of the CDU?

How about putting forward a credible challenge to Merkel?

Schulz agreed with Merkel on more topics than he disagreed tonight

 

[Vuze]

https://www.buzzfeed.com/karstenschm...ews#.tm0RlpOXx

Man, these people have so much time on their hand and can't come up with an own mascot? All I see is AfD-blue pepes and chibis with AfD caps. Wow

also lol @ Lügenbaron chatting with Anne Will, gtfo

 

[PnCIa]

Closing statement by Schulzi was far better. Merkel will probably still win because she rides the Deutschland über alles train though as is apparent by her closing statement. Also still a lot of neulands out there.

 

[Bitch Pudding]

I missed a no to another cdu-spd coalition from Schulz. I'm not voting SPD to support Merkel.

He cannot do that, there's a good chance that S-G alone has no majority and a Jamaica coalition has some major hurdles to take.

Great coalition maybe the only option remaining at some point.

 

[kingkaiser]

The power vacuum Merkel will leave after her in a few years is going to be devastating for the Union, especially since all her potential successors are either extremely right from center compared to her or incompetent or both.

 

[PdotMichael]

How about putting forward a credible challenge to Merkel?

Schulz agreed with Merkel on more topics than he disagreed tonight

What is a credible challenge if any move to the left only ends in doom?

 

[El-Suave]

I missed a no to another cdu-spd coalition from Schulz. I'm not voting SPD to support Merkel.

What is he supposed to say? The country needs to be governed if that's where the votes will land, and it's the most likely outcome. A no to another GroKo would be absurd.
Edit: Delusional Gottschalk is the highlight of the evening - he made high art with Wetten Dass and people didn't care instead Germans like Bares für Rares which is why the country sucks.

 

[Xando]

What is a credible challenge if any move to the left only ends in doom?

A move to the left isn't necessary dooming the SPD. Getting into a coalition with die linke will since their position on stuff like trade, foreign policy, defense and more isn't capable with a large share of voters.

The power vacuum Merkel will leave after her in a few years is going to be devastating for the Union, especially since all her potential successors are either extremely right from center compared to her or incompetent or both.

This is true. CDU is gonna get destroyed when Merkel retires.

 

[PnCIa]

The power vacuum Merkel will leave after her in a few years is going to be devastating for the Union, especially since all her potential successors are either extremely right from center compared to her or incompetent or both.

Yes. Lets hope the SPD has a good candidate then.