Topher
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Really does. Really hope they expand this to third party games on PS.
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Ghost of Tsushima Director’s Cut PC cross-play and system requirements revealed. PlayStation overlay, cross-play, and Trophy support!
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Really does. Really hope they expand this to third party games on PS.
HeisenbergFX4
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Thick Thighs Save Lives
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Who is this BryanK dude that you guys keep referring to in a bunch of these PS-PC threads!?
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Topher
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Wait, WTF are those system requirements?
An RTX 4080/RX 7900 XTX for a 4K60 PS4 game? Does it have ray tracing and we weren't told?
I wonder if anyone has a youtube channel that tests games against the system requirements specs to see if they are accurate or not.
Topher
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Massive PS fan who railed constantly against PS games being ported to PC. Went over the edge talking about it at times. Eventually was banned, but was allowed to come back......and then got banned again. Don't get me wrong. He is a great guy, but damn......he needed to take things down a notch or two.
Thick Thighs Save Lives
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Wow, ouch, basically the equivalent of a super-fan like those on Twitter. Hopefully he's in a better state of mind today.
HeisenbergFX4
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The thing about Bryan though was he actually dearly loves PS and wants great things for their brand
Some people just go out of their way to put other brands down and make fun of people, he got truly pissed that Jimbo took PS down this path
Topher
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Wow, ouch, basically the equivalent of a super-fan like those on Twitter. Hopefully he's in a better state of mind today.
lol.....he went and started his own forum so now he can vent to his heart's content.
Gaiff
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Doesn’t it run at like 1800p/60 on PS5?
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StereoVsn
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Yep, wish other Pubs took note, but that wouldn’t bring the “engagement “.
Thick Thighs Save Lives
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Don't tell me it's that icon era forum. I see from time to time some wild posts on X/Twitter from them since they go viral.
James Sawyer Ford
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That’s coming in the future when PlayStation launches their PC store
Topher
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I'm imagine he threw a parade the day they announced Ryan was retiring.
Yeah. 1800p checkerboard. Don't pass the smell test, does it?
Don't tell me it's that icon era forum. I see from time to time some wild posts on X/Twitter from them since they go viral.
That's the one.
SportsFan581
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He's Bobby's brother, there was a big hubbub about who shot him and all that.
James Sawyer Ford
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This has been repeated for the last twenty years and consoles are still alive and well despite the growth of PC and mobile.
There will always be relevance for a highly cost efficient product for the mass market and curated specifically for gaming, it just won’t be MS since they lost that battle
demigod
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Great guy? Lmfao, not even close.
Punished Miku
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I think MS will try a Steam Machine approach. Sony will surely continue with consoles for 1-2 gens. The question is if people want to game on a closed ecosystem with $80 / year to get online, or transition to other options. Sony used to make laptops too so they can do Steam Machines if they want. They wont until their sales decline. MS just declined way faster. But ultimately I think consumers will wise up if given better choices. Seems that's the way younger people are going.
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Topher
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HeisenbergFX4
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I talked to him numerous times in private and always thought he was a very nice guy, he just wore his emotions on his sleeve too much in the open.
Topher
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James Sawyer Ford
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Steam machine approach won’t be mass market, since it will include cost markups to all the components and assembly since they are just licensing it out to third party manufacturers
Microsoft is doing this because they lost the war for efficient console market and now are fine with moving over to steam machine type set up with a higher cost and lower sales volume and they no longer will lose money on hardware
I’m sure Sony could do something similar but it would be layered on top of the cheaper console as the central platform
JimboJones
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He just went little too Majin Vegeta.
HeisenbergFX4
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I would likely bet a lot of money a dockable variant of this is happening and still think they are on course to build a traditional next gen console but honestly sounds like an expensive machine and not one designed to go head to head with anything Sony produces
Topher
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You talking dockable handheld, right?
HeisenbergFX4
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Yes
drotahorror
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Wait, WTF are those system requirements?
An RTX 4080/RX 7900 XTX for a 4K60 PS4 game? Does it have ray tracing and we weren't told?
PS5 version was never native 4K.
Gaiff
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It's like 1800p/60. Unless the PC settings scale much higher, you shouldn't need a freakin' 4080 to play a PS4 game at 4K60. That's around 2.5x the power of a PS5's GPU. An RX 6800 should be plenty to hit 4K60.
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Heisenberg007
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"The shocker is that when you're playing Ghost of Tsushima on a PC, you're still playing it on PS5."
Punished Miku
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I'm expecting an expensive streamlined PC console. And a PC style handheld.
If they keep publishing 1st party games everywhere, they have to open up or they will keep losing more 3rd party support. If they have open stores they basically get everything eventually.
demigod
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Zathalus
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1800p checkerboard and 4k checkerboard modes. The 1800p mode is quite useless as 4k is a locked 60.
HeisenbergFX4
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I could see this happening
When the statement was floated to me several months ago that MS was tired of directly competing (and losing worse each gen) with Sony your approach also fits that statement
yurinka
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Yes, he's a great guy.
He loves PS and would like Sony to stick with their console, and considers that Sony's efforts on PC (and streaming) could/will damage their console.
So he'd prefer to Sony to scrap their PC and streaming plans and focus instead only on their own console, and particularly games played locally, not via streaming.
It's a point of view that I don't agree, but I understand it and I think it's perfectly valid.
PlayStation's active userbase, game revenue (and particularly 3rd party game revenue) and ARPU (average revenue per user) bigger than ever has been and keeps growing.
These are the most important things for a 3rd party when deciding which platforms to support. So 3rd parties will continue supporting them specially considering that the Xbox market share keeps decreasing and that 3rd party sales on Switch are way smaller than in PS.
I think MS will do their own "Steam machines" approach for both powerful home console shaped PCs (let's call it Xbox 5 X) and weaker handhelds with tv out a.k.a. hybrid/dockable (let's call it Xbox 5 P).
I think they'll do it better adapting Windows 11 to include a new optional UI optimized to be played with a gamepad both in a tv or in a handheld/tablet/phone and featuring there their game store, where they'd merge all their existing ones.
And then for 3rd party manufacturers of home/portable console shaped PCs, to offer a minimum hardware specs list to be allowed to use the "Xbox 5 P" branding or the "Xbox 5 P" branding.
Being Windows, you could also use there the other stores like Steam, Epic Store, GoG, the future Sony one, etc. Plus emulators. Or to dual boot it with SteamOS, Linux or whatever, because it's a PC.
But the one instead instealled by default would be a MS gaming store that would have your previous catalog and user library from battle.net, previous Xbox PC/console stores, etc. All merged into a single MS store for all the platforms where that store will be available (PC, Xbox consoles, mobile, cloud).
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James Sawyer Ford
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It’s possible once Sony releases a PC storefront and sells third party games that are mastered to include this support
Gaiff
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Sounds like a dumb fanboy.
James Sawyer Ford
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Yes but let’s not kid ourselves that this strategy is intended to “win” in terms of high volume sales
It’s intended to not cost them losing billions on hardware subsidies in a war they can’t win
SolidQ
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Fixed*
Punished Miku
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A $500-600 PS6 will of course outsell a $1000+ Xbox Steam Machine.
But at that point it really doesn't matter. For me personally, it'll be win / win / win. I get to keep my library, buy from any store I want, get pretty much any game, and it'll probably have higher specs as well but have the convenience of a console UI. And once I have access to all of PC library, I wouldn't even really want to use the Switch for portable honestly with any indie available, plus lots of older games. So I'd probably get the handheld too.
Then Switch 2 just for exclusives.
People that want to stay on PS can, and they'll get all the Xbox games too.
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James Sawyer Ford
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The alternate is the most likely case for most consumers, they can just get a ps5 and switch and also pretty much play everything, and do so in a cheaper package with day and date Sony/Nintendo games and not have to wait
Bottom line is MS strategy is going after a niche market, they’ve abandoned high volume hardware sales aspirations
Punished Miku
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I agree with that. I'm just saying that I don't personally care. I'm happy to be in that niche market. This is assuming any of this comes to pass. We'll see.
DenchDeckard
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You goddamm right.gif
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James Sawyer Ford
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Yeah it’s cool we have options and MS can “soft exit” consoles without abandoning their legacy consumers
They may be in a tough spot if their Steam machine cost isn’t competitive with just DIY or buying any other PC though, the Steam Machine concept failed previously but again since MS will make margins on this they probably won’t care. I think MS just doesn’t want to leave their Xbox brand or consumer base out to dry cold turkey