Ghost of Yotei allegedly being written by the same people who wrote Dragon Age Veilguard

StereoVsn said:
Sure there have been some instances of women warriors existing, but that would have been exceedingly rare.

The question is really why after a successful IP debut with GoT did Sony decide to switch the character, advance into gunpowder era, where you have plethora of other similar titles (Ronin, Ishin, upcoming Shadows), and make protagonist female?

I am really interested to see how this title will perform relative to the 1st game.
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Exceedingly rare or not, it will be interesting to see if this a genuine attempt to tell a story about a lesser-known figure(s) of history. If not, I think it will become mired in controversy and have its sales impacted, like all the rest.
 
One of the member of the development team of Indiana jones looks like a gay carrying lgbt flag but there was no agenda of translecturing and gender ideology in the game, if there is its barely noticeable. Hopefully thats the same case with goy
 
The anti-woke crowd tend to be utterly ridiculous. But in this instance I agree; If this is true, AND the game affected by it, it'll be unfortunate..
 
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I'm open to being against woke shit but being against gay and lesbians, which have been around since the dawn of time is way too far.

Who gives a fuck about someone else's sexual preference?

I do take issue with trans and other things being forced down our throats. I don't even have an issue with trans people. It's just the forced "notice me" "I'm gonna talk about my trans journey" that bothers me. Like it's all they have to talk about and it's basically their entire persona at this point.

I do think stronger, better than male female lead is going a bit far in recent years too....

But, I love pussy so im a feminist! - you go girl!
 
Kotaro said:
yikes :messenger_grimmacing_ :messenger_grimmacing_ :messenger_grimmacing_

After Concord, seems like Sony still haven't learned, they're about to find out
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I don't think the boardroom is paying attention. After Concord they shoulld have someone personally monitoring what is happening at every studio. This is clearly a case of activists hiring other activists, and the whole lot should be terminated for doing so.
 
Certinty said:
God of War Ragnarok was worse than God of War.

Spider-Man 2 was worse than Spider-Man.

The Last of Us Part II was worse than The Last of Us.

Horizon Forbidden West was worse than Horizon Zero Dawn.

Doesn't even shock me at this point. I fully expect Ghost of Yotei to be worse than Ghost of Tsushima.
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Nailed it.
 
So we go from dumbass honor being more important than winning battles to gender identity being more important than winning battles??!

The actress pick was definitely not a coincidence.
 
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Sentenza said:
Come on, would anyone actually be so surprised by this?

Quick reminder that even the first was a game that depicted most of the men in the cast as cruel, incompetent and/or fools, most of the women as "badass warriors" and where your potential love interest, the man-faced bulldyke, was exponentially more manly than her own wimpy brother, the BLACKSMITH.
And for the sequel they were already doubling down with the female samurai as protagonist.
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You forgot the lesbian samurai.

It was still not as in your face as saying non-binary or having top scars in a fantasy rpg like failguard.

Let's see if they can top that with yohei.
 
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Here's a thought.

Why not wait until it's out before getting the pitchforks out.

Indiana Jones got castigated before release, with the picture of that guy saying made for modern audiences as well as SBI associations.

That was a big nothing burger.
 
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A game has multiple leads and seniors working on it, you have no idea who did what. If GTA VI has woke directors working on it, would you call the game terrible for it before you even see it? Some people are so short sighted, they can't see the forest from the trees sometimes, they only look at the person's recent work as a basis for their judgement and borderline ignore what other games they've worked on prior to that. Selective cherrypicking.

Would you call Avowed terrible because of the pronouns you saw or one of the devs or seniors making a woke statement? And Veilguard is just one game, out of many that those people worked on. I'm not defending Yotei, but please, let's first get our first gameplay and story bits revealed, before we judge the game.
 
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GymWolf said:
It was still not as in your face as saying non-binary or having top scars in a fantasy rpg like failguard.
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Exactly !

Ghost of Tsushima i found well written, even with the flaws you point out.
I mean the first two questline are basically a remake of Luke shitty storyline in rian johnson star wars (my apprentice is bad so i go live like a drunken ermit instead of trying to make up for my mistakes), and man on fire except instead of Denzel you follow this middle aged woman who fights better than you.

Sounds bad, and yet i had fun playing those two quests through. Maybe they will manage to keep this enjoyable storytelling in yotei ?
 
When was the last time a Sony western game had good writing anyways? It seems like they stopped being more than a video game version of Marvel Cinematic Universe in terms of sheer inoffensiveness and audience focus tested mentality.
 
Toots said:
Exactly !

Ghost of Tsushima i found well written, even with the flaws you point out.
I mean the first two questline are basically a remake of Luke shitty storyline in rian johnson star wars (my apprentice is bad so i go live like a drunken ermit instead of trying to make up for my mistakes), and man on fire except instead of Denzel you follow this middle aged woman who fights better than you.

Sounds bad, and yet i had fun playing those two quests through. Maybe they will manage to keep this enjoyable storytelling in yotei ?
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I thought the whole honor thing being more important than winning a war was beyond retarded and nowhere near how actual samurai think and fight, so i don't have much to praise about tsushima story, jin was boring and dull af and the villain was good for the first opening hour then it become whatever (and a complete bitch by the end).

Honestly, it is gonna be very hard to make story and protagonist that interest me less than sushima1, but i know many people like dumb honor stories and jin being umm...stoic, so i 'm clearly not their ideal audience.

Woke not being the modern california in your face type of woke is really the only praise i can give (a couple of secondary characters were ok).
 
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GymWolf said:
I thought the whole honor thing being more important than winning a war was beyond retarded and nowhere near how actual samurai think and fight, so i don't have much to praise about tsushima story, jin was boring and dull af and the villain was good for the first opening hour then it become whatever (and a complete bitch by the end).

Honestly, it is gonna be very hard to make story and protagonist that interest me less than sushima1, but i know many people like dumb honor stories and jin being umm...stoic, so i 'm clearly not their ideal audience.
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Dude, the point is honor is stupid and you need ghost techniques to win a war. Jin understands this after falling of the bridge (so maybe 30 minutes into the game). It is only jin uncle who cannot see beyond honor in the story, and it always goes back in his face.
The moment where you charge like a dummy just after having saved your uncle isn't supposed to be a heroic last stand or whatever, it is supposed to show your uncle hasn't change and his still blinded by his worthless honor.
 
Toots said:
Dude, the point is honor is stupid and you need ghost techniques to win a war. Jin understands this after falling of the bridge (so maybe 30 minutes into the game). It is only jin uncle who cannot see beyond honor in the story, and it always goes back in his face.
The moment where you charge like a dummy just after having saved your uncle isn't supposed to be a heroic last stand or whatever, it is supposed to show your uncle hasn't change and his still blinded by his worthless honor.
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His uncle being soo fixated with honor is retarded aswell and a huge part of the plot, and jin is on board with theu honor thing for a while before the 4 neurons in his brain are able to do 2+2.
If you think that a general would lose a battle to not lose his honor in a war, i have a bridge to sell you.

Uncle retard is all about honor and going against jin for the whole game and this shit soured me on the plot.

I rolled my eyes everytime someone brought honor into a discussion about saving your fucking land from ruthless invaders that have no honor whatsoever.

I'm not a fan of old black and white samurai movies about honor so like i said, i'm not their target audience.
 
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Simple, don't pre-order it and wait for reviews from your personal trusted sources. I do think Yotei will be relatively woke with all the info we've been fed lately, but I can wait as there is always something else to be excited about.

We don't even have a proper date of release besides the 2025 in the trailer, and it we'll be a 2026 release if it gets delayed.
 
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This is nothing new, mate. Here is a painting depicting lesbian sex from ancient Japan. "Woke" has become a very loose term now and is now applied anything resembling modern world politics against conservative viewpoint.
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Yes .. this really is nothing new.. can you point to something new... like a not lesbian hot beautiful not androgenous well modeled female lead character in a western game in the last couple of years ?
 
I hate woke crap but i also hate how people on here are calling anything and everything woke as well. We had a thread about the witcher 4 being woke cause of ciri, we had a thread that GTA 6 might be woke, we've had several threads of this game being woke etc etc. Calm tf down and start using ur head instead of screaming that everything is woke because when you do that nonstop your entire message loses all meaning.


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Sebastian1295 said:
I hate woke crap but i also hate how people on here are calling anything and everything woke as well. We had a thread about the witcher 4 being woke cause of ciri, we had a thread that GTA 6 might be woke, we've had several threads of this game being woke etc etc. Calm tf down and start using ur head instead of screaming that everything is woke because when you do that nonstop your entire message loses all meaning.
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Ya mums woke
 
Topher said:
That's fair. I'm the first to point out Spider-man 2's woke bullshit so I'm also hopeful that this was just SBI nonsense and Sucker Punch has nothing to do with any of it. I'm sure there will be some gay characters, just like there was in GoT, but I agree that as long as it isn't preachy then I'll be fine with it.
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Being preachy is not always about shoving and screaming in your face like Vailguard tried (too hard) to do ... when you transform something that has 1% in prevalence into something that you pretty much see every single time in every single game, progressivly in bigger ways and cant escape it ... it is also preachy... something you dont care about said to you over and over in a nice manner is also preaching... you probably wont agree ... but for me personally I dont see the difference between the lgbtq+ push im vailguard from sony studios... they are all pushing the same agenda, just choosing a different manner to do it.

I see the gender swap.. I see the actress choise.. when the story start Ill probably start to see the woke tropes... its preaching brother... you just are okay with this kind of sermon.

I mean how many more lesbian ugly/androgenous female leading characters in sony games do you need before saying "Yeah I get it ... "
 
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Let's face it, knowing current sony, we all should brace ourselves and expect the worst. Sony have already demonstrated that they don't care if they hurt the perception and performances of their franchises in favour of pushing this type of stuff. Just accept it now, so you won't be disappointed. Intergalactic too will be riddled with that shit.
 
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Bernardougf said:
Being preachy is not always about shoving and screaming in your face like Vailguard tried (too hard) to do ... when you transform something that has 1% in prevalence into something that you pretty much see every single time in every single game, progressivly in bigger ways and cant escape it ... it is also preachy... something you dont care about said to you over and over in a nice manner is also preaching... you probably wont agree ... but for me personally I dont see the difference between the lgbtq+ push im vailguard from sony studios... they are all pushing the same agenda, just choosing a different manner to do it.

I see the gender swap.. I see the actress choise.. when the story start Ill probably start to see the woke tropes... its preaching brother... you just are okay with this kind of sermon.

I mean how many more lesbian ugly/androgenous female leading characters in sony games do you need before saying "Yeah I get it ... "
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When I see it, I'll see it. I'm just not seeing yet my man.
 
Thebonehead said:
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Here's a thought.

Why not wait until it's out before getting the pitchforks out.

Indiana Jones got castigated before release, with the picture of that guy saying made for modern audiences as well as SBI associations.

That was a big nothing burger.
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You cannot blame people to form opinion or be on defensive after Veilguard fiasco.
Could be a nothing burger? Totally. But the same applies that it could be totally a woke propaganda fest, like Spider-man 2. Unless you have some hard evidence for that.

Why its alright to look foward to the game but not to be extremelly cautious about writters of a demency? It's just like movie teasers when people like the video and think its great, but tell to people who dislike to "wait until is released before judging".
I say theres nothing wrong with both. Gives more reason for them to prove us wrong. And who wouldn't want that.
 
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Sebastian1295 said:
I hate woke crap but i also hate how people on here are calling anything and everything woke as well. We had a thread about the witcher 4 being woke cause of ciri,
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No, it's not because of Ciri. Let's get the facts straight.

The main writers from TW3 left CD Projekt, which replaced them with the wokest soul from Insomniac and a deranged journalist with zero fiction writing experience. Add that to previous statements about "modernizing" The Witcher for "new audiences" (literal words). Ciri isn't the problem here.

As for GTA 6, it's been reported that Rockstar is censoring themselves People are reacting based on what devs and journalists are officially saying, there isn't any speculation about this.
 
Angry_Megalodon said:
No, it's not because of Ciri. Let's get the facts straight.

The main writers from TW3 left CD Projekt, which replaced them with the wokest soul from Insomniac and a deranged journalist with zero fiction writing experience. Add that to previous statements about "modernizing" The Witcher for "new audiences" (literal words). Ciri isn't the problem here.

As for GTA 6, it's been reported that Rockstar is censoring themselves People are reacting based on what devs and journalists are officially saying, there isn't any speculation about this.
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Modernizing the witcher 4 for new audiences were the same words used to describe indiana jones before it launched and that game isn't woke. Judging games before release and putting the woke label on them is not the way to go about it sorry especially with games like the witcher 4, and gta 6 which are based on a series of games that were never woke.
 
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Bernardougf said:
You saw a plenty in Tlou2.. and didnt mind.. dont think you will mind here either brother.
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Nah....I simply don't think TLOU 2 was that bad at all. Not going down that rabbit hole though. I'll mind if GoY is as heavy handed and preachy as it was with Veilguard and Spider-man 2. There is a massive difference, imo.
 
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Shaki12345 said:
Both Dragon Age and Ghost of Tsushima are overated as F so this seems like a good fit.
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GOT isn't overrated. Perhaps not for you. There are so many games to play now that you don't need to be into GOT/Y. If they mess up, hopefully they will learn from that and if they don't, some people will have a game their into, to play.
 
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