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[Rhindle]

Morons at GI.biz + the Interweb = Complete disaster

Here's my favoirite story so far: :lol

News:

Sony Drops PS3 Router Functionality

Promises, promises.

by Jane Pinckard, 07/11/2005

It's so typically Sony. They promise you the moon, get you all excited over some nice-looking movies and some sexy hardware. They flirt and tease and drop not-so-subtle hints. And then when you finally get them home, they shut the door in your face. And you end up with all that...excitement and nothing to do.

Sony, we have a name for creatures like you.

The latest feature to quietly drop is the vaunted PS3 router functionality, which was supposed to transform your console into a massive wireless hub capable of managing all your electronics and guiding alien starships. So then, what's gonna happen to all those network ports on the back? Are they even going to exist anymore?

Sigh. Next thing you know, the controllers are going to have wires.

Stay tuned to 1Up for the latest disappointments (strike) developments on the PS3.

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3141923

 

[sonycowboy]

Morons at GI.biz + the Interweb = Complete disaster

Here's my favoirite story so far: :lol

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3141923

Gamespot's is up as well.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/07/11/news_6128851.html

Kutaragi: PS3 won't be a router

Sony exec tells Nikkei Electronics that the next-gen console won't be a hub; exclusion aims to make machine more affordable.

When Sony introduced the PlayStation 3 at this year's Electronic Entertainment Expo (E3), the company touted the unit as being a multimedia device that was designed to be at the heart of household entertainment centers. The PS3 was to be an all-in-one unit, capable of entertaining gamers, appeasing audiophiles, and replacing outdated equipment with its multiple functions.


One piece of equipment that was destined to be binned by the PS3's versatility was the home Internet router. Three Ethernet ports on the PS3 were originally designed to help the PS3 function as a broadband router, letting other devices hook up to the PS3 as though it were a hub.

However, according to multiple reports across the Internet, it's the router functionality of the PS3 that's in the trash. With speculation that the PS3 could be one of the most expensive home consoles ever, in addition to stiff competition from the cheaper Xbox 360 from Microsoft, Ken Kutaragi reportedly told the publication Nikkei Electronics that all router capabilities for the PS3 have been nixed to make the unit more cost-friendly.

It's unclear at the time whether the actual architecture of the console will change at all. Conceivably, the number of Ethernet ports could be reduced now that the console won't be used as a router. But in the past, Sony has implied that there may be plans for the spare Ethernet ports.

By Tim Surette -- GameSpot
POSTED: 07/11/05 04:25 PM PST

 

[Kleegamefan]

Oh look....its our good friend Jane Pinckard :lol


EDIT: where are the big rolleyes when you need them....


BTW, since when were Hubs and Routers the same thing???

Morons....

 

[Pimpwerx]

All the bitterness in this thread won't stop Sony market domination in the third round.

Good day! ^_^

People who keep talking about Sony falling ignore the fact that they are contributing to the hype machine. PS3 has dominated discussion since its unveiling at E3. Hell, it's dominated discussion since like March. Whether talking it up or down, it's being talked about. It's another white wash. The single-console past, present and future continues. :lol PEACE.

 

[Pimpwerx]

Stop your damage control peeps my whole post was tongue in cheek but then I was forced to reveal my source. I blame Amirox!

I'm glad that router crap is cut. Gives a bigger chance of a hdd making it in now!

But go go X360 go! I for one look forward to our new market share overlords at MS!

I wish you were right about that HDD thing, but I really doubt it. The axe fell before E3, and there was no promise of an HDD there, so I seriously doubt it. Besides which, there's no dev comments on it. If devs aren't being told to code for one, then you can forget it. A wet/pipedream IMO. PEACE.

 

[TTP]

Gamespot's is up as well.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/07/11/news_6128851.html

Wow, how unprofessional.

GameSpot and 1up -10.000 each for spreading bullshit

If I was Sony, I'd sue GI.biz. And Chittagong as well

 

[Kleegamefan]

If I was Sony, I'd sue GI.biz. And Chittagong as well

:lol

I wish you were right about that HDD thing, but I really doubt it. The axe fell before E3, and there was no promise of an HDD there, so I seriously doubt it. Besides which, there's no dev comments on it. If devs aren't being told to code for one, then you can forget it. A wet/pipedream IMO. PEACE.

IIRC, devs were told not to expect standard HDD in X360 either...I believe that and the upgrade to 512MB were a late addition....especially the memory upgrade...

I also recall a post-E3 interview with one of the SCEI reps (could have been Ken K.) that stated the decision to include/not include HDD in PS3 has not been made yet....

 

[kaching]

:lol @ 1up.com - I esp. like how the author comes off seeming so insulted at the loss yet clearly doesn't even understand what was supposedly being lost.

 

[Kleegamefan]

Yeah....Sony is going to have a hard time getting customers like her

The latest feature to quietly drop is the vaunted PS3 router functionality, which was supposed to transform your console into a massive wireless hub capable of managing all your electronics and guiding alien starships. So then, what's gonna happen to all those network ports on the back? Are they even going to exist anymore?

L M F A O !

 

[gofreak]

Good lord, this is hiliarious.

The cleanup begins (a little) though. GI.biz has updated their story with "clarified references to the original specification", but I still don't think it's as clear as it could be.

 

[TTP]

Ahahah, funny. They should just trash the article or replace it with some pron.

Seriously tho, they should run a brand new article that adresses the erroneous one.

 

[TigerKnee]

Sony can drop the Bluray functionality and they'll still outsell MS.

Sad but true

 

[Ruzbeh]

Sony can drop the Bluray functionality and they'll still outsell MS.

Sad but true

Of course. No one cares about frickin' Blu-ray.

 

[Rocket9]

Of course. No one cares about frickin' Blu-ray.

Exactly, only the hardcore knows about this stuff. The blue glow from Revolution is probably a more popular feature than Blue-Ray right now. /half kidding

 

[Chittagong]

Wow, how unprofessional.

GameSpot and 1up -10.000 each for spreading bullshit

If I was Sony, I'd sue GI.biz. And Chittagong as well

Hey! Don't shoot the messenger!

Although I must admit that this has taken pretty hilarious proportions I didn't expect when first posting the GI article :lol

 

[mrklaw]

No, I'm stating that because HDTVs aren't going to be designed to accept a 1080p signal input at 60 fps. Look at the ATSC table 3 formats: http://www.hdtvprimer.com/ISSUES/what_is_ATSC.html

Notice that the highest ATSC table 3 format is 1080i/60 or 1080p/30. Those are the formats that HDTVs are required to accept. Because of that, feeding an HDTV a 1080p/60 signal might not display. You seem to be misconstruing my argument to be "1080p ain't happening" - that's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that a full 1920x1080 frame displaying at 60 frames/second is not something an HDTV is designed to display properly. However, 1920x1080 at 30 fps is something an HDTV is designed to display - so expect to see 1080p content at no higher than 30 fps.

Actually, the European Broadcast Union is proposing future production of broadcastsin 1080p/50/60. Link to PDF

They suggest that progressive displays are more suited to fixed pixel displays, and an initial launch in 720p/50/60 would eventually transition to 1080p/50/60. Therefore it makes sense for broadcasters to move to 1080p/50/60 production as soon as is practical, to provide future proofing.

Still don't see it being relevant in PS3 lifetime to anything more than a tiny minority of people, but plans are already in place.

 

[mrklaw]

why does the HD camera need an ethernet socket? Won't it just confuse people if they start using ethernet sockets as accessory cables? Why couldn't they use hispeed USB2 for that? Ethernet is for networking.

 

[gofreak]

why does the HD camera need an ethernet socket? Won't it just confuse people if they start using ethernet sockets as accessory cables? Why couldn't they use hispeed USB2 for that? Ethernet is for networking.

I'm not fully aware of how it works, but it's an IP camera - a network camera. It's not supposed to rely on any "host" computer or anything, you just connect it to the network and use it. So the connection would be ethernet or whatever, not USB.

 

[Deg]

Mind you this feature isnt even in any other console and many more features i may add. From the looks of things Sony are only getting better.

 

[mrklaw]

I'm not fully aware of how it works, but it's an IP camera - a network camera. It's not supposed to rely on any "host" computer or anything, you just connect it to the network and use it. So the connection would be ethernet or whatever, not USB.

OK. But in that case its an IP camera, broadcasting over your home, or internet network. And so gigabit will be irrelevant.

In the case its used as an eyetoy, just plug it in via USB.

Still don't see any practical reasoning behind 3 ethernet ports on PS3.

 

[TTP]

OK. But in that case its an IP camera, broadcasting over your home, or internet network. And so gigabit will be irrelevant.

In the case its used as an eyetoy, just plug it in via USB.

Still don't see any practical reasoning behind 3 ethernet ports on PS3.

- You need 1Gigabit port in order to feed the PS3 with HD stream from the HD IP Camera. (Ethernet speeds vary widely. For HD work, you'll want at least a one-gigabit Ethernet)*

- You need a second Ethernet socket just to connect the PS3 to the router

- And you may be pleased to know that there is a third Ethernet socket available if you wanna connect multiple PS3s in LAN.

*HD is required for the next generation EyeToy (for eyes/fingers movement detection and whatever)

 

[teiresias]

OK, so who's writing letters to the Gamespot and 1up morons to point out the updated GI.biz article and make them realize the morons they are (shouldn't these people have even been in attendance at E3 where it was clearly stated it was a switch and NOT router anyway)?

 

[TTP]

Good question.

You may want to add Gamasutra to the victims of GI.biz

On the other side, props to IGN and Anoop Gantayat for reporting the truth

 

[Nerevar]

Actually, the European Broadcast Union is proposing future production of broadcastsin 1080p/50/60. Link to PDF

They suggest that progressive displays are more suited to fixed pixel displays, and an initial launch in 720p/50/60 would eventually transition to 1080p/50/60. Therefore it makes sense for broadcasters to move to 1080p/50/60 production as soon as is practical, to provide future proofing.

Still don't see it being relevant in PS3 lifetime to anything more than a tiny minority of people, but plans are already in place.

... Europe doesn't count! And what's up with a 50 Hz? Is that standard PAL refresh rates?

 

[pilonv1]

... Europe doesn't count! And what's up with a 50 Hz? Is that standard PAL refresh rates?

Yeah it's the PAL standard. SCEE loves to remind us all the time with their excellent first party conversions!

 

[mrklaw]

... Europe doesn't count! And what's up with a 50 Hz? Is that standard PAL refresh rates?

Yeah. I'd have hoped they dumped it for HD, but it retains better support for SD conversions.

So for a TV set to be 'HD Ready' in Europe, it has to have a minimum of 720 line resolution vertically, and support 720p/50/60, and 1080i/50/60

Moving eventually to 1080p/50/60