Glitchesarecool
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FTFY
Ah, well. Guess this will be a thing I leave to the people who can experience it before making those kinds of statements again, since I've been straight wrong about everything. XD
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Ah, well. Guess this will be a thing I leave to the people who can experience it before making those kinds of statements again, since I've been straight wrong about everything. XD
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Though to be fair on japan isn't germany the country with the lowest birth rate now?
So it's not anime that's going to end the world, but dank dungeon porn.
So it's not anime that's going to end the world, but dank dungeon porn.
Sleeping Lesson
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Naw, not at all. These are questions many people have, and only crazy people like myself that have followed development and bought a dev kit will know.
Oculus has a lot of educating and demoing to do.
[EDIT] The motion controller has finger tracking, too.
Glitchesarecool
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Which version did you get? Obviously you don't have the controllers, but it would be interesting if they offered them to you at a reduced price to try out.
Yup. My fear is the XONE controller pack-in will cause every dev to rush in and say their game is 'VR Ready'.
I really hope the motion controllers are also included with every headset, otherwise true built-for-VR experiences might get compromised if they're forced to support both options.
Also, holy shit the first MMO survival walking simulator with full VR and motion control support is going to be huge. Need to make a fire? Pick up two rocks and smack them together. Cut down a tree? Get swinging.
Sleeping Lesson
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I have the Dev Kit 2. The tech has progressed too far for the new input stuff to be compatible with the developer versions, though. I look forward to buying at all at full price with everyone else!
It's a big task for them, and extremely vital to their success.
It takes a lot more than that to be "VR Ready". And they won't need to support both options. Just like regular PC games don't support every input option.
Freedom = $1.05
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you underestimate the laziness of the typical gamer, who just wants to sit on a couch and unwind.
If your game has me winded and sweaty then I might as well go exercise instead
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I think a god game like black and white could be pretty damn cool with that motion controller.
Glitchesarecool
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Actually I'd rather do that shit in a video game than in real life. At least I can be in an air conditions room.
I hope someone makes a game for vr that's like the vr parts of lawnmower man for the snes. I want to run through a virtual landscape real quick with my hands floating in front of me while we are the robots plays in the background and I have my fun for five minutes and then realise I wasted my money and cry, permanently damaging my expensive goggle televisions with my tears
LurkerPrime
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Move over motion controls and 3D, there's a new kid in town.
That's only because Black & White had some of the worst gesture-based commands out there.
That's only because Black & White had some of the worst gesture-based commands out there.
Of course, if you want to be really VR Ready. The point was to highlight the inevitable devs/pubs who will no doubt try to fudge it (just like people do with all new technology) to tick a box. Microsoft just recklessly demo'd one method of wrapping XONE games inside a virtual room - you can't foresee a future with PC games shoehorning a similar feature so they can ride the VR train too? If these hit the market without genuinely excellent experiences being there to counterbalance them, VR risks being written off as a gimmick again.
Sure they won't need to support both controller options, but the realities of splitting any userbase still applies here. If the motion controllers aren't packed-in, how many developers do you think will be willing to release a game designed around them unless they're being halo funded to do so?
Ultimately, software is what will sell VR. But if the hardware isn't being packaged in a way which enables sustainable development, the software will never come.
Twin Tails
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sproutella
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Has Valve/HTC said if the motion controllers are being packed in with the Vive yet? Because a lot of the positive buzz about the VIve had to do with the motion tracking of the controllers.
stump sock
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wait, is this real? what?
Jimmyfenix
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Sleeping Lesson
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I agree, actually.
They did now announce that the Half Moon controller preorders will be open alongside the Rift, so at least they'll have the same release date. If they did pack those in, though, wouldn't that just have a different problem where every dev feels they need to support it whether it makes sense for the game or not?
Sleeping Lesson
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Not missing anything, it seems extremely stupid. The Microsoft stuff in general seemed totally tone deaf. Why the hell would I want to play an Xbox One game on a high-end PC at all, let alone in a virtual room where the game resolution is reduced even further.
stump sock
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Backfoggen
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Remember where Oculus was 3 years ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYa8kirsUfg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYa8kirsUfg
BreezyLimbo
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yeah, isn't a high-end PC gonna be necessary to run Oculus stuff in the first place? that's really silly lmao.
Microsoft has been making questionable decisions for about 5 years now tho so I guess it shouldn't be a surprise at this point.
Yeah, simulanious release definitely helps a lot, but this is still a Wii MotionPlus problem. Regarding shoehorned motion support, I think janky controls is a way better problem than a split userbase, especially considering it's a reasonable assumption Oculus customers already have some PC controller laying around (either a XONE, 360 or PS4) if a dev doesn't want to use motion. The reverse isn't true for a bespoke motion controller that will probably costs at least $100.
Felix Lighter
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So committed to PC. My gaming PC room is such a mess, this will really take my mind off of that. Finally, time to buy an Xbox one.
OdysseusVA
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I heard you all like memes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyQW6oRUarI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyQW6oRUarI
As if we needed any more proof that Chris Watters shits up everything.
And Lucy was doing so well too...
BreezyLimbo
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Yah that's pretty uh, pretty memetastic.
Twin Tails
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All I saw was me closing the tab.
Piston Hyundai
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I wonder if GB is allowed to make fun of GameSpot's garbage dump
Hey, the Kinda Funny crew are nice folks. Well, except Colin. Don't talk about them like that!
Except Colin.
Glitchesarecool
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How do you guys browse neogaf on mobile? I'm on a galaxy S5 with chrome and the mobile version of the site performs so badly, but I don't want to stress my data plan with the desktop version.
I use the mobile version of the site. Never had any issues with it, and I like it more than the desktop version in some ways
Freedom = $1.05
Banned
turn off avatars.
i can't even hate people because of their shitty avatars and actually have to judge them on what theyre saying thanks to turning avatars off
Mobile site works great on iOS Safari. What's performing poorly, gifs or general performance?
Tried Android Firefox? Heard good things about that.
how do you live?
stump sock
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works fine on my 2+ year old htc one on chrome. dunno?
Mobile version. Chrome. Moto G (so a budget phone with Android 5.0 here). Dark theme. Gifs disabled.
OdysseusVA
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I often use MobileGAF on my PC due to the option of disabling JIFs. What problem are you having exactly? Slow loading?
Felix Lighter
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Damn, I'm pretty sure my avatar is the part of any of my posts.
Glitchesarecool
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All images disabled. Actually everything off that can be turned off.
Basically. It's also slow to respond.
General performance, and since I have everything tied in nicely with google already, it makes sense to use chrome.
NumberThree
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Works nice and quick on both my tablet and phone (both with Android & Chrome). GIFs and Youtube embeds disabled. In fact mobile GAF is one of the most responsive sites for me.
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Glitchesarecool
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Hm, what's ya'll's ppp?
TheMrPliskin
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Just saw Jason's tweet about him being on the beastcast to talk about SFV, looking forward to hearing his impressions of it.
Backfoggen
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Yeah man purple pikmin really love that sick meme.
Freedom = $1.05
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shit, i just realized that if dusty has passed then so, too, has the midnight rider.
that stings a bit more
that stings a bit more
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