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Giant Bomb #15 | Just a Clip-On Tie
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No, he seems fine. You can track his weight by holding him while on the scales then subtracting your own weight.
We took a cat from my wife's parents because they were overfeeding her by leaving out a full bowl of food at all times, and just by feeding her properly she dropped from 17 pounds down to 14. 14 pounds is still fat, but not obese.
I think I will buy the iOS version instead.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/contradiction/id953844528?mt=8
funkystudent
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the super crisp screens and footage in the trailer makes me wonder WTF happened with the final game.
Obviously you got to compress it to keep the file size in check but why does it have a green tint everywhere in the final game?
edit.
ACTUALLY this is just something with the GB East footage after looking at other youtube lets plays.
This is what I get for buying and not playing the game.
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Are you talking about the questionable "night time" filter?
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
GBeast had it in low compression mode for whatever reason.
funkystudent
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SteveWinwood
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nah it's really charming. I don't think it's bad
I wouldn't call it bad, but in these kinds of games, either the solution has to be a huge twist that nonetheless was seeded early and was entirely predictable if correctly interpreted, or cornering the perpetrator with evidence has to be an intense and ultimately triumphant experience, and this was neither
The moment to moment mysteries were sufficient, as you could tell because Alex and Austin were getting into it, and obviously all the stuff with the acting is great. But there was insufficient ultimate payoff
The moment to moment mysteries were sufficient, as you could tell because Alex and Austin were getting into it, and obviously all the stuff with the acting is great. But there was insufficient ultimate payoff
Sleeping Lesson
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Contradiction is not a bad game. I, and I'm pretty sure the Beast guys, were enjoying it unironically.
Have you ever made a post that was not in a negative light?
Look, I'm not saying it's not enjoyable. But it is very much a disaster in adventure game design.
Sleeping Lesson
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What's it like to live in Wrongsville?
SteveWinwood
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pop: you
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Like, how?
Have you played other adventure games where the logic puzzles where a gazillion times more obtuse than this?
Contradiction accomplishes exactly what it sets out to do - an FMV adventure based on those comfort food ITV afternoon murder mysteries. It had everything - allusions to something far more sinister, plot threads that go nowhere, larger than life characters, super simple conclusion etc
Brb going to watch some Poirot
Brb going to watch some Poirot
Wrongsville has so many poppy seed pods
But we don't use them for anything
They're just in a box
But we don't use them for anything
They're just in a box
I'm not talking about the nonsense logic leaps from old Lucas or Sierra stuff. I'm talking about the basic system those games had where every item was used in some way. They weren't littered with garbage like Contradiction is.
SteveWinwood
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it's way better than like 15 Sierra games I've played in my life
Sleeping Lesson
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\m/
I really do like Contradiction though. I mean, it's obviously light on gameplay mechanics but I'd rather play it than countless other combine-random-items adventure games.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I think that's fine really. Red herrings in a detective style game isn't necessarily bad, seeing that the main mechanic was trying to weed out the truth from an assortment of statements. Other than the red herring at the end none of it seemed all that egregious to me.
if the inventory items keep you on your toes and consistently make you consider their purpose, they're not at all useless in a game design sense
if every adventure game just had you pick up "relevant" clues that you know you'd have to use at some point, that sure would be be boring
let's not get crazy here
if every adventure game just had you pick up "relevant" clues that you know you'd have to use at some point, that sure would be be boring
let's not get crazy here
in reality, contradiction is of a very different ilk and not really comparable
CoolBatteryCharge
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I think Contradiction is a good game. I also liked the ending and appreciated that it was simple and straightforward for a change. Was starting to grow tired of every story driven game trying to build to some crazy over the top ending.
SteveWinwood
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I mean I agree but I don't particularly hold a lot of Sierra games in high regard
just in pure adventure game logic it's been WAAAAY worse across the general genre
Chainsaw sculpting.
sure, although i'd argue that the challenge of classic sierra games stems from the open-endedness of progression and the simultaneity of options involving a lot of different situations in different places
whereas in lucas games you could often tell (either cause it was obvious from the story progression or because the characters straight-up told you) what problem you're supposed to be working on, so you're basically just thinking about that one solution instead of keeping everything that is happening around you in mind and really internalising the rules of the world
obviously that ambition was often to the sierra games' detriment but i still have an infinite fondness for the uncompromising philosophy behind it
truth be told, i really like all kinds of adventure games so while my heart may stand a little closer to the sierra side, ultimately i enjoy all that stuff a whole lot
Incandenza
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Contradiction, much like Deadly Premonition, is a narrative that at its core is actually really compelling and fun, and that lets you see the poorly-executed parts as endearing. (Not gonna touch DP's gameplay in this discussion because there's nothing endearing about fighting wall ladies but w/e)
Plus there's something to be said for a game where you can tell the people making it were having a lot of fun and pouring their hearts into it even if they know it's never gonna be amazing. There's not an ounce of pretension or cynicism in that game.
Plus there's something to be said for a game where you can tell the people making it were having a lot of fun and pouring their hearts into it even if they know it's never gonna be amazing. There's not an ounce of pretension or cynicism in that game.
Maaaaaaaan, The Swindle is such a disappointing game. It has some really cool elements but it's so rough and for apparently being a "rogue-like" there's actually zero reason to play it multiple times. Just start with nothing and play 99 poorly generated levels over and over again.
Just gotta use the Grecotch strategy.
shouldn't you be asleep, mister...
My favorite content is anything that lets Jeff explain a past period of time in the industry.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
My favourite part of demo derby is seeing all the stupid parts of the 90s that I wasn't able to comprehend because I was too young.
Probably triple the game's budget
Backfoggen
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poppipod
Sleeping Lesson
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I really love the art style in the new King's Quest. Like, that might be the thing that gets me to play it.
Yeah it's one of reasons the game interests me, and I have never cared about playing the old Sierra adventures.
No, most everyone do not agree with that.
stump sock
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I actually really enjoy his stories of trying to organize his crap
and the fact that he has apparently held every game in existence in his hands over the previous week at any given time.
e: if you want some bad adventure game design, try on the Broken Sword or Gabriel Knight games
e2: the sequels, I mean, not the originals
funkystudent
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Working my way though Contradiction playdate and I love how Rebecca has slowly gone from the chill "I dont take drugs" lady to having this weird condescending tone whenever she talks to Jenks.
Nice small touch.
Girl is hiding something I tell you!
Nice small touch.
Girl is hiding something I tell you!
I hate that word, it has lost all meaning.
TheMrPliskin
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You mean like how every single Bombcast thread will contain comments a long the lines of "Replace Drew with Jason" or "Dan's stupid"?
Nope, I love his "pretentious stuff".
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