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[hamchan]

Anyways the finale is all Dan needs to watch. One of the best finales ever.

 

[RepairmanJack]

FWWM feels like some sort of fanfic that was made by someone who didn't understand that less is more. How i had imagined those events was much less lamer than how FWWM presents them.

a shame, really.

Eh, I saw it as a guy who hated what the show had become and wanted to return to the part he loved. Sometimes he forced it a little too much, but overall I think it has some of the best elements and scenes from anything Twin Peaks. That first dinner scene at the Palmers, Laura entering her room, the pink room scene, some of that stuff is just amazing.

I must be one of the only ones that really likes FWWM in it's entirety.

You're not alone. Outside of the finale I think it's the best thing Twin Peaks related.

 

[KingKong]

If you watch Twin Peaks you'll also learn that the only good parts of Deadly Premonition are directly stolen from it

 

[danm999]

Dan should watch all Twin Peaks, then play Deadly Premonition and Life is Strange.

It will be a rich, full, weird day for him.

 

[Sleeping Lesson]

The finale was designed as a last-ditch effort to not be cancelled, and nothing is resolved in it. I liked it fine, but it's hardly a satisfying ending to the series.

 

[Freedom = $1.05]

If you watch Twin Peaks you'll also learn that the only good parts of Deadly Premonition are directly stolen from it

yeah, down to some of the soundtrack being almost 1:1 with the show.

That swery says he wasn't heavily influenced by TP is a load of shit. but i get it, you don't want to get your pants sued off.

 

[daydream]

fire walk with me is fantastic, just on its own merits

there's obviously a lot of tp in dp but 1:1 is going overboard, especially on stuff like the soundtrack which is way different

 

[KingKong]

fire walk with me is fantastic, just on its own merits

there's obviously a lot of tp in dp but 1:1 is going overboard, especially on stuff like the soundtrack which is way different

thats because they had to change a lot of it

Rainy Woods

Deadly Premonition began its life as a game called Rainy Woods, which was shown at Tokyo Game Show 2007. Many bloggers criticized the game's obvious references and similarities to the 1990 television show, Twin Peaks, which led the game developers to scale the references back somewhat.

Changes between Rainy Woods and Deadly Premonition include:

A pair of dwarves modeled after The Man From Another Place were replaced with the twins, Isaach and Isaiah Ingram.

A protagonist named David Young Henning, whose name may have been too similar to Twin Peaks' Dale Cooper, was replaced with a tougher-looking Francis York Morgan.

The physical appearance of the sheriff who became George Woodman was changed to look less like the sheriff of Twin Peaks, Harry S. Truman.

 

[Gandie]

So how about a new Mario Party Party in the coming month?

 

[Freedom = $1.05]

fire walk with me is fantastic, just on its own merits

there's obviously a lot of tp in dp but 1:1 is going overboard, especially on stuff like the soundtrack which is way different

there are at least a handful of tracks that sound almost identical to the TP soundtrack.

just compare this to this and tell me those two aren't almost the same exact song

 

[RepairmanJack]

Twin man from another place would have kind of been awesome. That opening scene would have been really funny that way.

 

[Patryn]

So how about a new Mario Party Party in the coming month?

Bet not. PAX is only a few weeks away. Guessing the next MPP will be in September.

 

[justjim89]

I really kinda hope they do what they've mentioned for MGSV and record an entire series of it while Drew plays through it, then not releasing it until well into 2016.

 

[AuthenticM]

What shout-out are you referring to? There's the "audition tapes", Emma's YouTube video, Jenks' posts, etc.

Hmm, I didn't know there were many. I have only seen the actress who plays Emma's.

 

[ultron87]

I'm glad Dan is on the podcast to defend Towerfall's honor.

 

[TheMrPliskin]

I really kinda hope they do what they've mentioned for MGSV and record an entire series of it while Drew plays through it, then not releasing it until well into 2016.

Same, it's a perfectly dumb idea.

 

[daydream]

there are at least a handful of tracks that sound almost identical to the TP soundtrack.

just compare this to this and tell me those two aren't almost the same exact song

the whole vibe of the two soundtracks is pretty different, dp has those jazzy/funky tracks and all that guitar strummin' and whistlin'. that's not to say that the more dramatic, ambient songs aren't taking inspiration from badalamenti but even the two songs you linked are hardly 1:1. just gotta agree to disagree here, i guess.

thats because they had to change a lot of it

sure, but i can only talk about the end product and the end product definitely has an identity of its own

 

[Freedom = $1.05]

daydream,

no one is arguing that Deadly Premonition isn't its own thing

But no one is delusional enough to thing that DP would exist in a world where Twin Peaks never happened

Clearly they "paid homage" to TP in many ways, from the story to the music to the setting and more.

As someone who loves both things, I have zero qualms with this. Theyre not 1:1 but the venn diagram for DP and TP overlap a whole lot.

 

[daydream]

yeah, i literally acknowledged the strong influence across the board and just defended the game against the '1:1' reproach you made

repeating my position and presenting it as something i'm opposed to is nice rhetorics but i'm not sure it was necessary

 

[RepairmanJack]

While were talking Twin Peaks music... Sycamore Tree is fucking amazing.

 

[KingKong]

I dont think it's just influences or even homage, they took the entire setting, storyline, mood and characters. Sure they changed some things around and had a few original ideas but come on

e: this site covers it http://www.pioneerproject.net/games/deadly-premonition-and-twin-peaks-comparison/

 

[justjim89]

Is the player for the site absolutely fucked for anyone else? Using Chrome on Windows 8, and every time I try to watch the Rare Replay video it stops 5 seconds in and ends the video.

 

[NumberThree]

I really kinda hope they do what they've mentioned for MGSV and record an entire series of it while Drew plays through it, then not releasing it until well into 2016.

They should do that but not tell anyone about it and then one day the first episode just pops up.

Is the player for the site absolutely fucked for anyone else? Using Chrome on Windows 8, and every time I try to watch the Rare Replay video it stops 5 seconds in and ends the video.

That video's broken on HD quality.

 

[daydream]

While were talking Twin Peaks music... Sycamore Tree is fucking amazing.

and speaking of influences, it always reminded very strongly of strange fruit

 

[stump sock]

Is the player for the site absolutely fucked for anyone else? Using Chrome on Windows 8, and every time I try to watch the Rare Replay video it stops 5 seconds in and ends the video.

I had to watch it via the "download" link. worked fine then.

 

[Sleeping Lesson]

While were talking Twin Peaks music... Sycamore Tree is fucking amazing.

This may only matter to me, but the Twin Peaks soundtrack is getting a vinyl pressing on "Cherry Red" vinyl. I'm very excited for it, I love that music so much.

 

[Freedom = $1.05]

what if season 3 of Twin Peaks is influenced by Deadly Premonition

 

[demidar]

what if season 3 of Twin Peaks is influenced by Deadly Premonition

"Deadly Premonition? Uhhh, I've never heard of it before. Nope."

 

[funkystudent]

All this MGS talk got me to go back into Ground Zeros.



Did the anti air side mission and got my sneak on evacuating all the prisoners and planting C4. Then blew all the C4 and they call in a tank!

Fun times. All the systems felt like they fell into place for me.



Also trying to get over my MGS compulsion to just use the tranq gun. Got so many more options once I let that go.

 

[mintyice]

Anything of note come out of the EA thing?

 

[Volotaire]

Anything of note come out of the EA thing?

Just new gameplay of the E3 games. Need for Speed hd some great live action scenes. Mirror's Edge had an extended demo. Battlefront showed off their new mode. etc, etc.

 

[TheMrPliskin]

Just new gameplay of the E3 games. Need for Speed hd some great live action scenes. Mirror's Edge had an extended demo. Battlefront showed off their new mode. etc, etc.

I need to see this NFS FMV asap.

 

[Keyser Soze]

Anything of note come out of the EA thing?

 

[mnz]

Anything of note come out of the EA thing?

- Mirror's Edge gameplay
- Battlefront spaceship combat
- NfS FMV stuff

 

[justjim89]

All this MGS talk got me to go back into Ground Zeros.



Did the anti air side mission and got my sneak on evacuating all the prisoners and planting C4. Then blew all the C4 and they call in a tank!

Fun times. All the systems felt like they fell into place for me.



Also trying to get over my MGS compulsion to just use the tranq gun. Got so many more options once I let that go.

I've been replaying Ground Zeroes a lot lately, too. Getting my skills back up. Still not sure if I prefer M+KB or gamepad. Gamepad makes movement and menu navigation a lot easier, but popping off headshots with a mouse in key situations makes the game go a lot more smoothly. Hmmmmm.

Been trying to get S on the assassination daytime mission, since I can already clear Ground Zeroes itself in about 10 minutes with an S rank. It just plays so damn well, at least that part will be fun even if the story isn't worth a damn.

And I agree, the tranq guns completely break every MGS game. They shouldn't give it to you by default, save it for NG+ or something.

 

[TheMrPliskin]

Ground Zeros started me on the path to ignoring stealth and I think I'm going to just mainly run and gun in Phantom Pain. Seems like the game will be more fun that way.

 

[Jams775]

Did they add all that stuff already or is it announced for free?

 

[stump sock]

my favorite MGS strategy is just to run and tranq or cqc. basically move as fast as possible while not setting off alarms

 

[justjim89]

Ground Zeros started me on the path to ignoring stealth and I think I'm going to just mainly run and gun in Phantom Pain. Seems like the game will be more fun that way.

Since the game is already well into Big Boss's start of darkness, it makes sense thematically for him to give less fucks about ghosting non-lethal tactics and just waste people as he sees fit. Unless of course he wants to kidnap them with a balloon.

 

[Volotaire]

DAVE LANG

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO0...N_SOCIAL_Twitter&cid=EVERGREEN_SOCIAL_Twitter

I primarily use tranquilliser and I continued to do so in Ground Zeroes. But if the alarms get too much for me, I gun my way out or tranq/gun/hide. Usually, it's harder to hide well on harder difficulties.

 

[Keyser Soze]

Live Lang alert...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO0pVY0cgY8&ocid

 

[Lunar FC]

DAVE LANG

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO0...N_SOCIAL_Twitter&cid=EVERGREEN_SOCIAL_Twitter

I primarily use tranquilliser and I continued to do so in Ground Zeroes. But if the alarms get too much for me, I gun my way out or tranq/gun/hide. Usually, it's harder to hide well on harder difficulties.

Holy shit, no hat. Threw me off.

 

[Antiwhippy]

Holy shit, no hat. Threw me off.

It's like when Jason takes off his hat. You just don't recognize him.

 

[popo]

I've asked before why Jeff's never appeared on an episode of Retronauts. That's a show that definitely seems like it hits a rolodex problem.

The problem for Jeff is that when he is done working he wants to head north to get home. Retronauts records out of work hours and in space they are renting that I bet is closer to SF.

PAX is never worth the hassle it causes to GB content. I have no idea why they keep going.

Save the budget, attend one of the foreign shows, and get a weeks worth of unique compelling content instead. One video of the walking down a street in Japan would be better than the whole of PAX

"Dan in Japan" is a pretty solid name for a show BTW.

Not a huge fan of what they put out for PAX but all three PAX shows is likely a budget comparable to TGS and TGS is just at the wrong time of year for them.

Since they hang out with friends it is probably more popular than TGS with the staff. I bet the budget exists for all of the shows if they actually wanted to go.

Chris Kohler, Jeremy Parish, Jeff Gerstmann, Shane Betanhausen. Someone might end up dead by the end of the show, but it'll be a great podcast.

Get a bigger table and add Peter Brown and Frank Cifaldi (or at least Cifaldi from 5 years ago before he became such a twat on twitter).

They like to joke about Jeff's "museum grade" collection but he just keeps the games he likes. Brown and Kohler might very well be trying to "catch them all".

 

[TheMrPliskin]

my favorite MGS strategy is just to run and tranq or cqc. basically move as fast as possible while not setting off alarms

Ah, the old race to get to the next cutscene asap strategy.

Since the game is already well into Big Boss's start of darkness, it makes sense thematically for him to give less fucks about ghosting non-lethal tactics and just waste people as he sees fit. Unless of course he wants to kidnap them with a balloon.

Yeah that certainly helps, it also seems like they've added a number of tools you won't get to use if you focus on stealth.

 

[Volotaire]

Continuous great GB art: (from @SainezArt)

 

[stump sock]

(or at least Cifaldi from 5 years ago before he became such a twat on twitter).

I'm sure he means well but he can be really insufferable sometimes. I think someone retweeting one of his tirades is what finally made me snap and nuke several dozen people I was following

I don't have the energy in my life to keep up with what other people are angry about anymore

 

[DanRyckert]

Yeah, I don't really see Dan liking Twin Peaks once he gets to the weird stuff.

I want more weird stuff. I just finished the first season and my favorite part of all of it was Cooper's weird-ass dream with the dwarf.

 

[popo]

I'm sure he means well but he can be really insufferable sometimes. I think someone retweeting one of his tirades is what finally made me snap and nuke several dozen people I was following

I don't have the energy in my life to keep up with what other people are angry about anymore

It is like pushy religions. I don't mind you having you thing - and might even respect your core beliefs - but I don't want you knocking on my door at all hours yelling about how I am a heathen and going to hell.

 

[Freedom = $1.05]

I want more weird stuff. I just finished the first season and my favorite part of all of it was Cooper's weird-ass dream with the dwarf.

how do you feel about James and his tortured existence?

your feelings on this will greatly impact future viewings