every time i bring up portable ops, people tell me it's not important, but every time I read a wiki, it seems like it's the game that covers zero founding the patriots and big boss getting the idea for outer heaven.
MGS is just a big dumb anime so anyone that takes it too seriously is silly.
I could honestly never take any of Metal Gear's plot seriously just because of how stupid it can get at points. I kinda just let things go with the flow and try to follow this weird ass story Kojima is trying to spin. Not saying anything here is above criticism, just that I enjoy it too much to really care to nitpick its stupidity, since its all kind of stupid.
Huh? eh, uh, ha, uh? nuh, hah, eh? huh, hehe, huh, guh, eh, guhguhguh, huh? Huh? eh, uh, ha, uh? nuh, hah, eh? huh, hehe, huh, guh, eh, Huh? eh, uh, ha, uh? nuh, hah, eh? huh, hehe, huh, guh, eh, Huh? eh, uh, ha, uh? nuh, hah, eh? huh, hehe, huh, guh, eh, guhguhguh, huh?
If you close your eyes and listen to all the grunts and other utterances during, it's like you listening to the characters talking from a Sims game.
The other most troubling part of this nonsense is Zero's sudden involvement in everything bad the Patriots became. Given I haven't played Portable Ops and Peace Walker. But I feel that they should have made that more apparent before MGS4??? Instead Zero was behind it all!!!!!
every time i bring up portable ops, people tell me it's not important, but every time I read a wiki, it seems like it's the game that covers zero founding the patriots and big boss getting the idea for outer heaven.
edit: btw the mk. ii/iii is the best character in mgs4
That's true but MGS is cooler than most stuff.Let's not insult anime now.
That's easily where I'm at as well. It's also why I don't like 3 as much as some. I just don't like Big Boss very much as well, I thought the more serious story was super boring compared to 2 and I found all the management stuff to be tedious as hell. The Boss is amazing, but everything else that came from that is bleh.
I like that Kojima at least tries to tackle serious themes in a major game. That's really cool. I just also love his stupid, weird ass, overly complex narrative. When Kojima takes himself too seriously, we get Ground Zeroes. The most awful and disgusting thing he's ever written. Really makes me worried about 5 from a narrative standpoint.
every time i bring up portable ops, people tell me it's not important, but every time I read a wiki, it seems like it's the game that covers zero founding the patriots and big boss getting the idea for outer heaven.
edit: btw the mk. ii/iii is the best character in mgs4
if Kojima made it, it's relevant.
Evangelion has a less convoluted plot than MGS.
Evangelion has a less convoluted plot than MGS.
Oh man, the rants I have against Evangelion and its fanbase that I can't have here in fear of being an asshole and getting banned.
Evangelion has a less convoluted plot than MGS.
a lot of those stupid sounds are usually absent in the JPN dub. i dunno why English localizers feel the need to add all those stupid noises. it's like they don't want it to be too quiet or something. it happens in other games as well.
Portable Ops, though its canonicty is under debate, had a brief "hey kids make sure to get MGS4!!" teaser in the form of Ocelot hinting in a very contrived and unnatural way that Zero was pulling strings to help found the Patriots.
Peace Walker has a lot of tapes and stuff hinting that the proto-Patriots already exist and Big Boss left them over ideology and possibly disgust at the LET project happening without his consent. The whole true ending path is what sets up GZ/MGSV by taking the relationship from "estranged" to "we will fucking destroy you if you don't obey" levels.
That's easily where I'm at as well. It's also why I don't like 3 as much as some. I just don't like Big Boss very much as well, I thought the more serious story was super boring compared to 2 and I found all the management stuff to be tedious as hell. The Boss is amazing, but everything else that came from that is bleh.
I like that Kojima at least tries to tackle serious themes in a major game. That's really cool. I just also love his stupid, weird ass, overly complex narrative. When Kojima takes himself too seriously, we get Ground Zeroes. The most awful and disgusting thing he's ever written. Really makes me worried about 5 from a narrative standpoint.
Boy. I hope MGSV actually goes head on with some of the BB vrs Zero stuff. In Portable Ops and Peace Walker that entire plot is just window dressing for a "Big Boss fights some random bad guy" story.
From the silly things we've seen so far in PP, I'm not worried about it being 100% gritty and serious. I mean, its gonna be a lot darker than typical Metal Gear, but that's for obvious reasons, since this is the turning point for BB's character.
;___;7This is good.. Isn't it?
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I'm just hoping that MGSV has a story bigger than Big Boss get's betrayed, Big Boss builds Outer Heaven, Big Boss kills bad guy. At this point, it's not looking good on that front.
Also while we are discussing major plot points.
They have already started cloning Big Boss before the events of Peace Walker.
I am not sure if Big Boss knows by then but there is a tape in there.
Boy. I hope MGSV actually goes head on with some of the BB vrs Zero stuff. In Portable Ops and Peace Walker that entire plot is just window dressing for a "Big Boss fights some random bad guy" story.
"How's an honest warmonger supposed to make a living?"
I love Revengeance.
I'm just hoping that MGSV has a story bigger than Big Boss get's betrayed, Big Boss builds Outer Heaven, Big Boss kills bad guy. At this point, it's not looking good on that front.
Dan seems under the impression that Big Boss's coma at the beginning of MGSV is when they take his genes and start cloning him.
Considering how old LET are in the trailers we've seen, and how long Big Boss is in that coma, the timeline kinda matches up for that?
Dan seems under the impression that Big Boss's coma at the beginning of MGSV is when they take his genes and start cloning him.
Considering how old LET are in the trailers we've seen, and how long Big Boss is in that coma, the timeline kinda matches up for that?
I'm not worried about it being 100% serious. I'm worried about the "darker" stuff being done in a way that's just gross and not interesting. Theof Ground Zeroes was wholly unnecessary and basically completely ruined that game's narrative for me.rape torture and uterus bomb
Dan seems under the impression that Big Boss's coma at the beginning of MGSV is when they take his genes and start cloning him.
Considering how old LET are in the trailers we've seen, and how long Big Boss is in that coma, the timeline kinda matches up for that?
Yea that as well.
I got lots of concerns about MGSV.
MGS3's ending timeline and all materials make it clear that Solid and Liquid were born in 1972, two years before Peace Walker and Ground Zeroes. So if that's the case, it's a retcon.
I've never played a Metal Gear game (except a few hours of Portable Ops), and got MGS 5 with my video card. Metal Gear Scanlon was a great way for me to understand the series before MGS 5.
if kojima can't find work making games he could just make AMVs all day because god i love this trailer
Ground Zeros had a written recap of (what I assume was) Peace Walker. To those that played both, is it an adequate telling?
Ground Zeros had a written recap of (what I assume was) Peace Walker. To those that played both, is it an adequate telling?
If the game plays like Ground Zeroes, I'm a million times in just for that. I'm just hoping it has some interesting narrative tricks to play.
Dream scenario? You finish the game with Outer Heaven built. Cut to credits. End credits radio call is Solid getting the mission briefing for the original Metal Gear operation. You then go and get a full on remake of Metal Gear one to truly finish the Big Boss/Solid Snake story.