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Just finished the Bombcast and it sounds like next weeks will probably be a whole lot of Phantom Pain talk.

skLaFarebear said:
My soldiers in MB just keep talking about how sick Big Boss is and one of them really likes puppy DD's paw pads.
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I keep getting some shit from one of them, throwing him down a flight of stairs and then diving on him hasn't changed his mind either.
 
I really want to check out the Mario Party 5 video, however. In chrome when I press play i just get the loading symbol, in safari i'm told to get flash or html5 browser and same goes for firefox. I'm not running adblock on giantbomb and i tried it in chrome with the extension turned off but nothing seems to work! I'm also not a subscriber at the moment so I can't try the HTML5 player in chrome.

I have tried google search and shit but I can't find anything, any tips?
 
Freedom = $1.05 said:
the overall plot was made more sense (the fallout 3 ending alone is some sort of insult to the intelligence of its players), the player agency is leagues above what was in fallout 3, the factions weren't so clearly black and white like in FO3, The actual landscape was structured in a way that felt much more real than the series of set pieces FO3 had.
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Factions weren't so black and white? You do realize you're talking about the game with Caesar the slave lord right? Sure the faux military were bland as hell, but they weren't straight up evil like that, and like the casino guy who wanted to live forever. I've finished NV several times, and I seriously have no idea what player agency you're talking about. So I liked the game, but the writing wasn't anything to write home about.
 
blanky said:
I really want to check out the Mario Party 5 video, however. In chrome when I press play i just get the loading symbol, in safari i'm told to get flash or html5 browser and same goes for firefox. I'm not running adblock on giantbomb and i tried it in chrome with the extension turned off but nothing seems to work! I'm also not a subscriber at the moment so I can't try the HTML5 player in chrome.

I have tried google search and shit but I can't find anything, any tips?
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Sorry, no idea. Sometimes one of the quality options has issues, but I don't see anything in the video options. Unfortunately it's not on Youtube (yet?).
 
Sleeping Lesson said:
Yeah I put quite a few hours into it yesterday as well. It's pretty god damn great. What makes it great, though, is not that it's Metal Gear Solid. It could just as easily have been Desert Shooter X and it would still be great because of the systems.

I don't know how to feel about that.
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My enjoyment drastically increased once I stopped wanting a Metal Gear Solid game and started wanting Hideo Kojima's Just Cause.
 
Aaron said:
Factions weren't so black and white? You do realize you're talking about the game with Caesar the slave lord right? Sure the faux military were bland as hell, but they weren't straight up evil like that, and like the casino guy who wanted to live forever. I've finished NV several times, and I seriously have no idea what player agency you're talking about. So I liked the game, but the writing wasn't anything to write home about.
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no faction in New Vegas was full of saints. There is no truly good alternative to turn to, unlike FO3. And, yes, while Caesar and his minions were pretty savage that didnt make the terrible things the other groups did any less so.

I mean i guess you played a different game than i did. I played a game that didnt direct me to a good path, didn't force me to kill myself at the end when there were viable alternatives, and i played a game where I could choose to align myself with any faction. or not at all. and what i did regarding those choices had tangible consequences

I chose to not align myself with anyone, btw, and took over the strip myself. the game ended when i, as the player, decided no one was fit for this job but myself. That level of freedom is not something fallout 3 had the nerve to hand me with its own ending.

It's easy to point to the obvious evils in new vegas but, unlike fallout 3, you'll find yourself wasting days of your time trying to find what persons or factions are truly good. that, and the absence of anything other than of binary moral choices in the main thread of a game's narrative, is something bethesda has yet to pull off in any of its recent rpgs.
 
FStop7 said:
My enjoyment drastically increased once I stopped wanting a Metal Gear Solid game and started wanting Hideo Kojima's Just Cause.
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Yeah. Between this and PT, and Zone of Enders, that man has to work on different games. He has the drive for creating great, different experiences when he's not tied to MGS.
 
blanky said:
I really want to check out the Mario Party 5 video, however. In chrome when I press play i just get the loading symbol, in safari i'm told to get flash or html5 browser and same goes for firefox. I'm not running adblock on giantbomb and i tried it in chrome with the extension turned off but nothing seems to work! I'm also not a subscriber at the moment so I can't try the HTML5 player in chrome.

I have tried google search and shit but I can't find anything, any tips?
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Disable the HTTPS Everywhere plugin if you use it, the HTML5 player on the site doesn't like that one.
 
Myggen is always spreading that HTTPS everywhere knowledge.

mnz said:
Jeff talked a bit about their video player on his tumblr:
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I just want to be able to fullscreen on iOS for live streams!

Wait a sec, I got a Nexus 9 for my birthday on Monday. DOES FULLSCREEN WORK ON ANDROID?!

FStop7 said:
My enjoyment drastically increased once I stopped wanting a Metal Gear Solid game and started wanting Hideo Kojima's Just Cause.
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That's a pretty good way of looking at it.
 
Lttp but I started watching Metal Gear Scanlon. On episode 8 now and it can be pretty rough to watch Drew, does that get better after MGS?
 
Frenden said:
He gets progressively better as it goes on (and as he encounters more modern control schemes).
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The thing is though, I don't think the mechanics are the main problem. I could totally get that. What's hard to watch is when he doesn't figure out super obvious stuff which is basically all the time or when he does the same mistake over and over again for an hour.
 
Copenap said:
The thing is though, I don't think the mechanics are the main problem. I could totally get that. What's hard to watch is when he doesn't figure out super obvious stuff which is basically all the time or when he does the same mistake over and over again for an hour.
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Shrug. Never bothered me. It's his first time playing that sort of a game by his own admission.

If he was super awesome at the games from the get-go, there'd be no narrative of his getting better throughout the series. Both mechanically and in the logic of puzzling out the encounters.
 
dhonk said:
You just gotta let go. You wont have fun otherwise.
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Haha

Frenden said:
Shrug. Never bothered me. It's his first time playing that sort of a game by his own admission.

If he was super awesome at the games from the get-go, there'd be no narrative of his getting better throughout the series. Both mechanically and in the logic of puzzling out the encounters.
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I think why it bothers me so much is because I actually never played MGS myself so I have the direct comparison from how quick I figure stuff out and the ages it takes him. Anyways, I'm commited. I will definitely pull through.
 
Copenap said:
The thing is though, I don't think the mechanics are the main problem. I could totally get that. What's hard to watch is when he doesn't figure out super obvious stuff which is basically all the time or when he does the same mistake over and over again for an hour.
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Drew seemed to worry a lot about making the videos entertaining to watch, which meant he was always rushing to progress. Early on this meant a lot of deaths, frustrations, and oversights. They meet a better balance just over halfway through, but then there's a lot of backtracking that slows things down. The biggest problem is that there's so much time between episodes, which probably screwed Drew's ability to really get into MGS1' mechanics in any real manner.

There's a lot of parts where it drags, but MGS1 overall has been a fantastic series. The lows are more than negated by the great highs the series reaches.

jaina said:
A moment of silence for the dear junior Prods, who originally spread the HTTPS Everywhere wisdom in OT #14: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=164166346#post164166346

Never posted again.
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Haha. That's awesome.

A duder with a mission is rare, indeed.
 
jeff droppin truth bombs on his tumblr again
Not to totally get off on a tangent here, but I’d also say that someone who just paid $60 for a middling game is often willing to talk about how much they like it rather than admit that they should have waited for some reviews before buying it. That’s just knowledge gained from decades of staring at message boards and seeing the cycle play out again and again and again. For as much as you get people out there talking about how all the “reviewers are jaded” or whatever, on the other side I’m seeing fanboy weirdos who pre-ordered a game six months ago and devoted hours of time on a message board, getting “hyped.” The last thing anyone on any message board ever wants to do is say that they were wrong. So instead they lash out in our direction or claim that we’re not “real gamers,” whatever that means. That’s fine, everyone likes to shoot the messenger and all that. Maybe those sorts of people could go find some marketing drone YouTube channels who won’t rain on their little hype parade or something. Augment your pre-order today!
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Copenap said:
The thing is though, I don't think the mechanics are the main problem. I could totally get that. What's hard to watch is when he doesn't figure out super obvious stuff which is basically all the time or when he does the same mistake over and over again for an hour.
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That doesn't really change until MGS4 to be honest. The thing is, you just have to go with the flow and think of it as Breaking Drew: MGS. Then it gets glorious :)
 
Freedom = $1.05 said:
hang the man who praised watch dogs because that's easily the worst 15-20 hour game i have finished in a long, long time
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People defend everything. Recently there was a topic about early footage from The Order, and most of the people there were holding it up as unfairly criticized and treated it like a great shame and injustice that the series is likely dead.
 
I like the idea of Watch Dogs and the guns felt good.

It just had the worst story and characters in the history of all video games. And their version of Chicago felt super copy and pastey
 
Archaix said:
People defend everything. Recently there was a topic about early footage from The Order, and most of the people there were holding it up as unfairly criticized and treated it like a great shame and injustice that the series is likely dead.
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Tao Feng was a fighting game that due to the shifting camera it would randomly change which direction you needed to block in, and even it had diehard defenders. If there's enough hype behind it, people will ride that train all the way into the gully.
 
Having played a whole lot of mgs 5 over the last two days,
- this game is so good, in a year of amazing releases it still stands out as an incredible achievement
- I'm actually looking forward to Metal Gear Scanlon 5, it will be fun to watch him take on the open ended missions, fail in hilarious ways and have to redo 30 minutes worth of progress
 
KingKong said:
Having played a whole lot of mgs 5 over the last two days,
- this game is so good, in a year of amazing releases it still stands out as an incredible achievement
- I'm actually looking forward to Metal Gear Scanlon 5, it will be fun to watch him take on the open ended missions, fail in hilarious ways and have to redo 30 minutes worth of progress
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Yeah, that's why I'm excited for it. Sure there is a joy to have watching Drew get mindfucked in an hour long cutscene, but it's much more exciting watching him trying to get through obstacles.
 
BreezyLimbo said:
Yeah, that's why I'm excited for it. Sure there is a joy to have watching Drew get mindfucked in an hour long cutscene, but it's much more exciting watching him trying to get through obstacles.
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Dan's right though, Drew played Ground Zeroes far better than any of the others, and he seemed to enjoy it a lot more. He can't just gun everyone down, though.
 
Sleeping Lesson said:
Dan's right though, Drew played Ground Zeroes far better than any of the others, and he seemed to enjoy it a lot more. He can't just gun everyone down, though.
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As time goes on you can start to get away with just shooting people, as long as you scan everyone in a base before hand and mark the ones you want to knock out it's fairly easy to just go loud. It also helps to make sure you clear out the outposts as you're heading to objectives, that way you can still keep on top of upgrading your staff without needing to be too worried about fultoning at the actual objective.
 
Best part of MGSV is that you can make it cater to your playstyle. You build what weapons you want instead of having it be given to you. I can see Drew digging that
 
Dan casually employing the Doctrine of Double Effect to justify the legality of his stinkbombing on the Bombcast was hilarious to me. :p Those catholic dogmas run deep, man.
 
Box Sliding/Drifting around Mother Base in Phantom Pain is too fun. Great Bowling minigame if you can find enough guys bunched up.
 
Felix Lighter said:
The game is pretty damn fun.
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I had a moment last night where I was spotted, and took shelter on top of a building. I was dodging mortar fire while scanning 10 or so enemies to determine which ones I needed to leave alive, and which I could take out with my sniper rifle. It was epic and fantastic and I can't wait to play more.
 
LiK said:
get it tomorrow
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Welp.
 
Since I want to pull off all stealth, I pretty much restart when I mess up. I just restarted after like 40 minutes.
Still tons of fun and lots of waiting.
 
There's an Evoland 2 quicklook on the schedule for Saturday, hopefully we get a Mad Max QL this week as well.

Twin Tails said:
Since I want to pull off all stealth, I pretty much restart when I mess up. I just restarted after like 40 minutes.
Still tons of fun and lots of waiting.
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That sounds like a nightmare, but I applaud you for doing it.
 
MGSV is so fucking crazy, it's blowing my mind. It's so fun, and the sense of progress and growth is real. And I dunno what people are complaining about pacing or cutscene-wise. Between all the random cutscenes out in the world on missions and at mother base along with listening to the tapes, I'm getting a lot of Metal Gear story craziness. I'm invested. There's so much stuff to think about, I don't know what the game is going to throw at me, and I like developing weapons and base building and fultoning. It's cool.

<<<WARNING - Even though I've spoiler tagged them, this paragraph contains spoilers so read at your digression. Just double warning you.>>>
I had an awesome moment today where I was just exploring and on my way to a side op and only on episode 6-7 in the story and then I stumbled upon
these ruins on my way there and it immediately threw me into episode 11, doing the fun boss battle with Quiet.
When I returned to Mother Base, I went to the medical facility platform and I was exploring for diamonds when I randomly found
an important person to the plot SPOILERS......................... that we thought was dead DOUBLE SPOILERS............................. Paz
and it was completely optional. This game is insane.
 
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