Sleeping Lesson
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Ah, ok. I have not been able to stop thinking about SOMA, and I was the same way with Infinite.
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Ah, ok. I have not been able to stop thinking about SOMA, and I was the same way with Infinite.
Can't wait for Jeff's Hot Take on The Taken King and how it was so bad it made him sick.
TBH, the talk on last week's pod about Destiny and its secret quests made me sort of want to play it. There's just not enough deep secrets in games nowadays that aren't just Easter Eggs, until eventually they get documented and archived on a Gamepedia.
I am thinking about it a lot, but I also went from SOMA to Talos Principle which is thematically very similar.
That is a very depressing thought. Thanks Data West.
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at least there's been like 5-6 really great skateboarding games made
that's like 5-6 times as many as there have been of wrestling games
that's like 5-6 times as many as there have been of wrestling games
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why did you just list a bunch of terrible games
ill give you one of the Aki games (personally, i grew up with WCW NWO Revenge and they're practically the same game over and over) and maybe All Stars though i haven't played it. the rest seem like they were made by bad people
I'd argue that the first 3 tony hawk games are better than all of those because they transcend being goofy skateboarding games and were actually just really good games that happened to be about skateboarding
ill give you one of the Aki games (personally, i grew up with WCW NWO Revenge and they're practically the same game over and over) and maybe All Stars though i haven't played it. the rest seem like they were made by bad people
I'd argue that the first 3 tony hawk games are better than all of those because they transcend being goofy skateboarding games and were actually just really good games that happened to be about skateboarding
The AKI games on the N64 and their Def Jam games, the Fire Pro games and WWE All Stars disagree.
lol the King of Colosseum and Fire Pro games are way better than the overrated Aki games though
Missing VPW2, rest of the list is automatically suspect even though it's mostly right.
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yeah but who even played those? we got like one fire pro on the PS2 and then that crappy one that was with the xbox 360 avatars.
also, does fire pro qualify as an isometric action game?
and i dont know what a king of colosseum is, i only know the king of the ring and that sucked. Do they still do those PPVs?
then it loses because no one had to import a good skateboarding game due to a lack of demand
i never owned a GBA so i guess that's alright
i though people only played Fire Pro to make their favorite wrestlers in the character creator and then play a bad wrestling game with them
People who knew their shit and imported them?
TheMrPliskin
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Definitely, it's a real change from how weak last year was.
I'm sure there'll be an Olliolli 3 eventually.
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Giant Bomb #17 | D-Horse Always Wins
SOMA did better:
The way the story is wrapped up.
Bioshock Infinite did better:
Everything else
#MyTwoCents of course.
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Arbitrary bullshit.
Comparing Soma to Bioshock Infinite is like comparing MGS5 to Bloodborne
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i mean i wasn't exactly building an argument with facts and numbers so of course its arbitrary lol
Sleeping Lesson
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Well he was comparing them in the context that both he and I love Bioshock Infinite, and both games made us think.
stump sock
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they should just do an Aki wrestling HD collection.
Last edited by DamnBoxes; Today at 02:51 PM. Reason: Yes I'm aware I'm kinda' comparing apples to oranges
In retrospect "kinda'" does not belong in my reasoning.
I have no idea why WWE doesn't put out a downloadable DLC heavy No Mercy style game with the current roster or the legends that are under legends contract.
but then I realized they would probably get Yukes to try to make an Aki style game instead of getting Aki and it would lead to a THPS5 situation
stump sock
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they could just rerelease No Mercy or 2000 with all wrestlers replaced by CaW jobbers and leave everything else the same and I'd still be over the moon
And what was your conclusion?
You shouldn't trust the masses on anything, and doubly so about video games.
The only way a wrestling game would be good would be if Telltale (or Dontnod at this point) got the Lucha Underground license. Or CyberConnect2 made a WWE game in the vein of Asura's Wrath, Unreal Engine 3 anime sculpture art and all. Or WWE and 2K worked with Koei Tecmo and made a game with the Hyrule Warriors treatment. Or if that NetherRealm game was actually a full-ass fighting game.
I just want a game that breaks kayfabe.
I just want a game that breaks kayfabe.
For some reason I've always found story to be just as important as gameplay to me. I dunno if it's just because of the games I grew up playing. But I'm less inclined to play a game with good game play if I'm not interested in the story or turned off by it. I've felt this way about MGSV recently.
It's hard for me to describe what I prioritize and like about games stories.
It's hard for me to describe what I prioritize and like about games stories.
I care as much about the story as the game wants me to. Which generally just means that when I'm sitting through 30+ minutes of badly written cut scene/walking slowly while exposition happens bullshit I'm not too likely to enjoy the game on whole, and may actually come away thinking this is one of the worst fucking games of all time what lunatics voted for this to be game of the year multiple times, stop writing games you hack Kojima.
Hypothetically of course.
But if you want to let the gameplay stand on its own and don't make a terrible story get in the way of that gameplay then I'm on board for the ride. I don't need anything more than a vague concept of why I'm doing what I'm doing.
Hypothetically of course.
But if you want to let the gameplay stand on its own and don't make a terrible story get in the way of that gameplay then I'm on board for the ride. I don't need anything more than a vague concept of why I'm doing what I'm doing.
So you're saying that Destiny is your favorite game ever. Got it.
Shooting things (particularly from the first person perspective) as a core mechanic has never made for a compelling or satisfying gameplay loop. That's a minor problem that stands between me and enjoyment of almost any FPS. All I can say about Destiny is that it's mindnumbingly boring to even hear people talk about the game, so I can assume the game itself isn't very interesting.
I'm pretty much with you. It's about games setting expectations and targeting goals and reaching them or not. If I go into a game knowing that they know the story they're telling is meaningless/important to the whole thing, I'll know to ignore/examine it.
This is why while Metal Gear Rising takes itself far less seriously than Solid games, it is more successful as a Metal Gear game than the last few. It knows exactly when to give a shit and when not to.
In Destiny Bungie kept their weird hero worship aspect of storytelling without having an identifiable singular hero to worship or meaningful things this hero overcame. This made the whole thing feel severely unearned and flat (and I'm not even considering how shitloads of the story was clearly stripped and warped from what it would have been).
I'm literally one mission into Taken King and they've already made steps into giving characters character and establishing conflict therein while setting up a big bad that I am curious to learn more about and take down. It's like they remembered what an adventure story is.
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I almost Redboxed it today you guys
I almost Redboxed it today you guys
Love the skateboard sound effects thrown in.
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Man that gaming minute has me kinda hyped for the podcast LOL
Wow, a shitty EA nostalgia cash in with a hard release deadline ended up looking shitty? The whole world has turned upside down. This is almost as surprising as the Arkham Knight season pass being awful.
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