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Giant Bomb #17 | Baby Dan Wyckert
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Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
This MGScanlon episode kinda illustrates to me why I'm turned off by MGSV. They've made it too forgiving. He basically rolled up on 3 guys, setting them off but had the slow motion time activate for each of them so that it wasn't a problem at all.
Jimmyfenix
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You can turn off the reflex mode but would have to deal with an instant alert
Twin Tails
Member
Drew kills more people in a single side op than I have the entire game.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Eh, all the games are like that. Shoot people fast enough and they can't radio in for alerts.
Anime has made you weak, I murdered my way through the entire second half of that game. Fuck mother base, fuck research, fuck diamond dogs, just murder.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
This game is a lot more forgiving when it comes to reacting to soldiers discovering you.
Is it even possible to make a sandbox game which encourages the player to get creative in finding solutions with a play-style they enjoy, and not have it be forgiving/easy?
It needs to be for Goobers like Drew.
Twin Tails
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THIS is a sneaking mission.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Hitman: blood money
NumberThree
Member
Deus Ex.
Not really a sandbox game.
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Noray
Unconfirmed Member
Not if you turn off Reflex mode imo. In past games, they actually had to physically radio it in to go into alert. Here, if a guy sees you and you don't take him out within like 1 second it's an instant alert.
Reflex is baby mode for babies. I turned it off immediately. You literally can sprint through the entire game headshotting everyone in reflex mode otherwise.
SuperStiltzkin
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Sandbox or open world? I wouldn't call it open world, but I consider it sandbox with how many times I have cleverly gotten around tough situations. Like when I tried hacking a security panel in a police station, but a patrolling cop kept walking by. So I used my super strength to carry a vending machine all the way down the hallway to place in front of the door so he couldn't see me hack it.
That sounds like some Sam Fisher night vision goggles sneaky bullshit, MGSV is a cool guy action game with guns, explosions, David Bowie and a dog.
Always be moving, always be murdering.
Glitchesarecool
Member
ha
Also great, now gaming noticed the polygon article. Someone must've been bored last night.
NumberThree
Member
Maybe not in its entirety but there are definitely levels that are as much a sandbox as (old) Hitman levels, for example.
Here, I helped fix that for you.
Jeffs latest Mixlr is to blame for my mistake.
I thought it was obvious that people were referring to the open world kind of sandbox game here.
edit: I remember someone in this thread complaining about shitty download speeds from GB. Here's a potential solution to that problem that I forgot to post.
Glitchesarecool
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You should play/watch more than the first episode.
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Noray
Unconfirmed Member
I hate when people dismiss teen drama for being dumb teen stuff. I mean yeah, teen drama is often dumb, that's just true to life. But Life is Strange never belittles the characters for being teens. It's a shitty time. Hormones, insecurity, social pressure, etc. For example Victoria actually being all right when she's not around her friends. That's good stuff. It's well-written.
You're a demon.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
To be fair the dialogue can be fairly terrible at times during the first episode.
Thought they improved on it by the second one.
Thought they improved on it by the second one.
cr_blah_blah
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LiS is really great especially since it touches on so many things video games just rarely do. All while not feeling cheap or exploitive. There needs to be more games like that. Every time one comes out it's always an immediate reminder in how sparse they actually are.
stump sock
Member
Yeah I can't tell if it got better or I stopped noticing.
Probably the former since I played them a few months apart.
Incandenza
Banned
If I'm gonna judge the game based purely on the first episode I'll say it seems like a legitimately good teen story wrapped in a sort of endearingly bad French conception of how American millennial teens talk.
Now Friday Night Lights, there's a thing that understood American high school kids.
Now Friday Night Lights, there's a thing that understood American high school kids.
Like how some of them have a weird tone shift where they kill someone and then they never talk about it again
NumberThree
Member
Err, what?
That's true for a whole one conversation and even then only if you made the "correct" choice earlier. She's not around her friends when she's blackmailing Jefferson or sending Max angry text messages.
Hey, wanna go drink some hella tea?
Glitchesarecool
Member
Assuming we get this far, I swear to fuck if Vinny chooses to
I'm cancelling my subscription.
send the dog into traffic or later shoot the dog
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Sorry, got some bidness to attend to.
Actually most of the terrible dialogue comes from chloe.
Also chloe is pretty terrible too.
I've only played up to ep 2 though.
I've only played up to ep 2 though.
It does touch on them, but in the most videogamey ways possible.
The writing and associated production makes the personal themes feel completely unpersonal, and has to keep falling back to the scifi as a crutch.
It's on par with one of the dozens of unremarkable YA novels that end up in the bargain bin each month, but is being put on a pedestal here because video games.
At its best, it's a stepping stone.
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Noray
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I don't think that's a fair comparison, very ungenerous. The fact that this subject material is practically non-existent in gaming does make it stand out and worthy of praise. Besides the dialogue itself I think the game also deserves praise for its setting and the myriad little details in the world that give it verisimilitude, which is a rare thing in games. Also I disagree that it feels unpersonal.
I think the dialogue generally gets a bit better further in, or at least tones down on the slightly out of touch youth-isms.
Hot Coldman
Banned
I'll probably play Life Is Strange now that my expectations for its dialogue have been set appropriately.
It's different.
It's different.
The Dear Leader
Banned
Life is Strange Giant Bomb dot com Game of the Year for the year of our lord two thousand and fifteen.
You heard it here first.
You heard it here first.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I definitely support more slice of life style games making it to the western market.
When can I play the videogame equivalent of solanin?
When can I play the videogame equivalent of solanin?
Hmmm... I don't know if I've played anything that gave me as much existential dread as Solanin.
Damnit, my copy's back home on my shelf in Sydney
Incandenza
Banned
I'm just saying that if I hear a character try to use the words "on fleek" at any point during this I'm turning the stream off
Gozer the Gozerian
Member
Eh, as someone who played both these games growing up, the 2nd has none of the manic, fever dream surrealism of the first game.
Lego Island 2 was pretty bland and characterless in comparison. Think people would probably be disappointed.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
It's kind of terrifying to me how much my life is following the same trajectory as the main guy from that book, though with the self-hatred and discontent toned down by quite a lot.
Luckily I don't know how to ride a scooter.
The Dear Leader
Banned
They use "on cleek" liberally.
stump sock
Member
isn't the western version of Solanin basically Scott Pilgrim?
only half joking
well maybe those a+ drop outs should have studied harder at soldier school
everything makes me very scared to read punpun. I keep getting it recommended but I have the feeling it might wreck me
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Noray
Unconfirmed Member
Man I am really getting turned off of Metal Gear Scanlon. Dan knows nothing about the game's systems considering how much time he's spent playing (doesn't even know what triggers alert state), Drew doesn't seem to give a shit about actually learning anything about the game or experimenting, still runs around in broad daylight, not even crouch walking, listens to 2 tapes and makes a snide remark about them. Meanwhile I have to listen to stories about how much (more) of a dumbass Dan was in college. My hope was that MGSV's length would mean Drew would actually have enough time to really learn how the game's systems work, but he's not. He's still as bad at this as he's been at every other MGS.
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