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Giant Bomb #17 | Baby Dan Wyckert
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LurkerPrime
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Only* good character in Mass Effect goes something like this...
Shepard.
*Excluding Mordin and the Biotic God.
But yah it's basically this.
Thane and Legion.
You are the reason why modern games are bad. You should feel bad!
Forgot Legion. He's great.
Thane is also great but I am space racist and don't like green people
I also like Liara kind of but at some point she just kinda goes off the rails about the whole asari/prothean thing
oh yeah, javik's pretty funny.
+Miranda
Who?
Which scene?
Also wow did episode 5 manage to hit every cliché on the way out. Start as you mean to go on I guess.
I love RPG's and I really hoped ME 2/3 (awful ending aside) would influence more action-heavy games. Yeah, they're not RPG's in the traditional sense, but I absolutely think there's space in this industry for a more "involved shooter" genre, if that makes sense?
LurkerPrime
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But Binary Domain already exists. Why crowd a budding genre?
I'm just going to say it: Bioware's treatment of Miranda is worse than Konami's treatment of Quiet. And then there's Jack.
Oh right, what a memorable personality!
What is this statement even? They at the very least gave Miranda backstory, personality and a reason to be who she is. She is an actual character. Quiet is a game mechanic with boobs.
Ehhhhhhhh. Ehhhhhh. At least Miranda had faux self awareness and "agency" as far as a character can go. Quiet was just dumb.
Mass Effect 2 and 3 were incredibly disappointing to me but they were still fun decent games. I wish Drew Karpyshyn got to do his story though.
That's pretty much ME1 and I wanted its systems to be taken a step further. Have stat/skill points govern things like recoil and spread, not dice rolls to hit but then you actually miss at point blank range I'mlookingatyouFallout3. Have stat points that govern success in diplomacy, intimidation and interrogation, not this Renegade/Paragon collectathon bullshit where if you're not 100% in one direction you get locked out of everything.
The systems in ME1 should've been polished up, not disregarded and it contributed to my massive disappointment in the sequels which I felt were simply mediocre TPSes with some story (characters were fine I guess).
honestly the camera tech is way pervier with Quiet. Also, Miranda talks a lot, which has the side effect of making her more of a character.
I mean, Quiet has backstory and does some stuff, but the fact that her gimmick is "doesn't speak" makes it pretty hard for her to, say, express opinions on things
I mean, Quiet has backstory and does some stuff, but the fact that her gimmick is "doesn't speak" makes it pretty hard for her to, say, express opinions on things
binary domain is hell of dope
I keep meaning to replay it but I don't want to have to worry about the voice response choice thing for a second time.
Now who's the badass biotic, bitch?
Both Miranda and Jack were represented far, far better in-game than Quiet. There are scant few camera shots that turn Miranda into a sex object, rather than scant few that don't in Quiet's case.
EDIT: And as far as the characterizations and backstory justifying them...it's not even worth getting into a thing about it. There's no fucking argument.
I don't think I've ever played another game that lost me so quickly in it's dreadful opening, but went on to charm the hell out of me and turn into a top 5 game I played that year.
Even Jack kinda becomes a cool character in ME3 imho.
Also, this might just be some camera tech stuff, but Kojima's cameraman thing really accentuates how fucking pervy Quiet's whole deal is.
Also, I don't think either of those characters had as much lapdancing as MGSV. I mean, both of those characters can straight up bone the main character in their games and it's treated with more respect than MGSV, even Jack's one-night-stand thing
Also, this might just be some camera tech stuff, but Kojima's cameraman thing really accentuates how fucking pervy Quiet's whole deal is.
Also, I don't think either of those characters had as much lapdancing as MGSV. I mean, both of those characters can straight up bone the main character in their games and it's treated with more respect than MGSV, even Jack's one-night-stand thing
Yeah, ME is a lot more honest. From moment one with Jack in ME2 I tried and hoped to get into a bit of a softer core, and I'm glad that I could. It proved out. And Miranda's dad basically admitted to creepily trying to make a 10/10, right?
And I don't want to talk about Quiet's nature due to spoilers, but shit, none of that even holds a candle to the way Bioware dropped the ball. Konami/Kojima rolled a gutter there.
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I don't think I've ever played another game that lost me so quickly in it's dreadful opening, but went on to charm the hell out of me and turn into a top 5 game I played that year.
Yeah the opening made me stop playing for like a year and then I picked it back up like a few months ago and finished it and loved it, it's great overlooked game.
I only wish I hadn't played on the highest difficulty, made bosses way too tanky.
LurkerPrime
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What kills me about Mass Effect 2 is that, save for the sultrycam on Miranda and Jack's nonsensical nudity, it plays everything entirely straight. Which is quite like MGSV, except that Quiet's a doll, not a character, and MGS has historically had its creepy stuff in every game. (MGSV just amped it up to 11)
What I mean is, Bioware should've known better. Far better.
The Big Bo stuff in the QL was the only reason I ever wanted to play it. Really glad I did, because it's so much more than just a creaky squad-based cover-shooter. I never used the voice stuff, but the intent behind it was really cool. And the whole friendship system and ending stuff are great.
It's a real gem of a game, betraying all expectations.
What I mean is, Bioware should've known better. Far better.
I don't think I've ever played another game that lost me so quickly in it's dreadful opening, but went on to charm the hell out of me and turn into a top 5 game I played that year.
The Big Bo stuff in the QL was the only reason I ever wanted to play it. Really glad I did, because it's so much more than just a creaky squad-based cover-shooter. I never used the voice stuff, but the intent behind it was really cool. And the whole friendship system and ending stuff are great.
It's a real gem of a game, betraying all expectations.
That game felt fine on the standard difficulty. Still had some good challenging parts.
I really don't care for it. It's just melodramatic bullshit in the Telltale framework with the added mechanic of time travel. I am so over these kind of games. I bought GoT and have barely touched it because I really can't deal with it anymore.
It's why the Citadel DLC is so damn good.
Just a good solid 1-2 hours of cheesy bullshit and hanging out with your bros and also fighting
an evil clone
Let's see if GBeast finishes it and then we'll talk. For me, it's pretty much #1 with a bullet right now.
NumberThree
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Yup. Jeff said they'd be free to upload the podcast this week, so it'll probably show up in the Bombcast feed one of the next few days.
Ah, I see. I want to play it eventually, so I was wondering how much im spoiling by watching the beastcast.
Well, that's fucked up.
If you're not a journo who has to finish all these games before the end of the year I wouldn't worry about it.
Yup, and no doubt we'll be better served by allowing Fallout to get patched a few times prior to playing.
Fantastapotamus
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Is she? I just "unlocked" her in the game, is there any character development later on? So far she is just a less usefull D-Dog.
It's always kinda funny to me when they ask at the start of the mission "So, you wanna take the dog, the horse, the robot or the woman with you this time?"
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