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Giant Bomb #17 | Baby Dan Wyckert

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Is the build of Ultimate Chickenhorse they played on UPF and the Unfinished just the Kickstarter demo build or do they have access to a more up-to-date build?
 

Megasoum

Banned
I decided to marathon all the Star Wars movies to hype myself before Episode 7 comes out.

Starting with Ep1 tonight (starting with the prequels to get rid of the shit and keep the good stuff for the end).

30min in Episode 1 and I already want to die....

Fucking Jar Jar and Anakin "Are you an angel" Skywalker...ugh
 

justjim89

Member
congrats! i finished it a couple weeks ago---registered for my first 5k in two weeks! If you're gonna keep going, 5K210K starts off pretty slow in comparison, so you've got some recovery runs ahead.

That sounds pretty good. I'm thinking I'll keep repeating the 30 minute run til it becomes easier and I can increase my pace, cause I run pretty slow.
 

Myggen

Member
KnLkSOB.png
 
It's amazing to me that navigating the Giant Bomb video library is still so terrible considering how important video is to users. I mean, unless I'm missing a setting, is there really no way to immediately skip to Metal Gear Scanlon 2 if I want to without scrolling through endless pages of video thumbnails in the "Metal Gear Scanlon" section? Is there something I'm missing? I made a shitty 45 second mockup in Paint that would make a difference.

aLDDQ8O.png


Even something simple like hovering over for a preview (like porn sites) and tags would make a huge difference. I've had a couple segments I'd like to go back and watch in various UPF's over the years, and without tags, a proper description, or a preview ability, you're basically left to blindly stumble through videos and hope you find what you're looking for.

I realize there have been some crazy changes at Giant Bomb over the last few years, but c'mon now.
 
It's amazing to me that navigating the Giant Bomb video library is still so terrible considering how important video is to users. I mean, unless I'm missing a setting, is there really no way to immediately skip to Metal Gear Scanlon 2 if I want to without scrolling through endless pages of video thumbnails in the "Metal Gear Scanlon" section? Is there something I'm missing? I made a shitty 45 second mockup in Paint that would make a difference.

aLDDQ8O.png


Even something simple like hovering over for a preview (like porn sites) and tags would make a huge difference. I've had a couple segments I'd like to go back and watch in various UPF's over the years, and without tags, a proper description, or a preview ability, you're basically left to blindly stumble through videos and hope you find what you're looking for.

I realize there have been some crazy changes at Giant Bomb over the last few years, but c'mon now.

qlcrew.com
 

Myggen

Member
It's amazing to me that navigating the Giant Bomb video library is still so terrible considering how important video is to users. I mean, unless I'm missing a setting, is there really no way to immediately skip to Metal Gear Scanlon 2 if I want to without scrolling through endless pages of video thumbnails in the "Metal Gear Scanlon" section? Is there something I'm missing? I made a shitty 45 second mockup in Paint that would make a difference.

If you're on Chrome: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/giant-bomb-season-pass/omcloogakdjglgfeipofceanjjgdeikh

And qlcrew.com.
 
That's a good start, but I want direct integration on the website and also better filtering. Here's another 30 second mockup for the home page that would make browsing the recent updates easier. Color code posts by type, and utilize space better so you don't have a bunch of empty useless space surrounding huge box art images.

http://i.imgur.com/UQEVpPk.png linked because huge

From an engineering perspective everything seems to work pretty well, but whoever was last responsible for designing the site seemed more interested in drop shadows than usability.
 

alr1ght

bish gets all the credit :)
Their content organization and video player are so ridiculously bad, especially for a site that's 90% video content.
 
Their content organization and video player are so ridiculously bad, especially for a site that's 90% video content.

Yeah I mean a lot of this stuff was solved collectively by designers over a decade ago, and it's like everywhere you look on the Giant Bomb site there's just a mess of nonsensical, glaring design missteps.

Hell, another basic thing that's fucked up is the search. When you search for "Metal Gear Scanlon 2", episode 6 shows up first. Then 10. Then 5, 9, 13, 4, and 7. With no descriptions. Why? How does this help anybody?
 

Myggen

Member
Yeah I mean a lot of this stuff was solved collectively by designers over a decade ago, and it's like everywhere you look on the Giant Bomb site there's just a mess of nonsensical, glaring design missteps.

Hell, another basic thing that's fucked up is the search. When you search for "Metal Gear Scanlon 2", episode 6 shows up first. Then 10. Then 5, 9, 13, 4, and 7. With no descriptions. Why? How does this help anybody?

The best way to search for something like that is to search for the game and go to the video section of the WIki.

http://www.giantbomb.com/metal-gear-solid-2-sons-of-liberty/3030-12388/videos/
 

szlifier

Neo Member
Yeah, I think the unified look across CBSi sites is fine, but there needs to be room for more customization.
Apparently they are in the process of changing the way videos are categorized and that might help.

I recently realized that there should be a clear indication on QLCrew whether the video is Premium or Free, I should get on that.

As for the video player. I hate it. Recent changes broke it even more. There is a lot of tracking going on in it, but all requests are done synchronously. Whenever you skip position it calls two or more urls and they must complete before the player even decides to do the seeking. This is horrible. Same thing happens when you click play. It makes it feels sluggish.

There is also the initial load of the video file and that could also be improved. The longer the video, the longer you have to wait for it to start playing.

All of this is giving me a headache when I want timestamps or chat archives to work properly. Today I switched to using YouTube embeds wherever I could. Clicking on a timestamp with a YouTube embed loads the video in like 2 seconds, vs. 10 with their video player.
 

Myggen

Member
Yeah, I think the unified look across CBSi sites is fine, but there needs to be room for more customization.
Apparently they are in the process of changing the way videos are categorized and that might help.

I recently realized that there should be a clear indication on QLCrew whether the video is Premium or Free, I should get on that.

As for the video player. I hate it. Recent changes broke it even more. There is a lot of tracking going on in it, but all the request are done synchronously. Whenever you skip position it calls two or more urls and they must complete before the player even decides to do the seeking. This is horrible. Same thing happens when you click play. It makes it feels sluggish.

There is also the initial load of the video file and that could also be improved. The longer the video, the longer you have to wait for it to start playing.

All of this is giving me a headache when I want timestamps or chat archives to work properly. Today I switched to using YouTube embeds wherever I could. Clicking on a timestamp with a YouTube embed loads the video in like 2 seconds, vs. 10 with their video player.

They've recently started to default people to the YT player (might just be new members for now?), so that's a pretty clear sign that they realize that the player on the site is less than optimal.
 

justjim89

Member
What's wrong with the video player? I love the GB player. Having a fullscreen option that just fills the browser tab is so good and handy.
 

Myggen

Member
What's wrong with the video player? I love the GB player. Having a fullscreen option that just fills the browser tab is so good and handy.

I've got no problems with the player either, but it's slow compared to YT and some people have problems with it. Compared to pretty much every custom video player on other gaming sites it's really good (check out the Gametrailers player), but YT is superior in every way.

I've never really had any problems with the player buffering or anything like that, and it's decent to skip around in for me.
 
The best way to search for something like that is to search for the game and go to the video section of the WIki.

http://www.giantbomb.com/metal-gear-solid-2-sons-of-liberty/3030-12388/videos/

I'm sure that works, but if anyone on the design or engineering team thinks this is acceptable, they should be replaced. Seriously. It's 2015 y'all, and it's still a pain in the ass to browse videos on Giant Bomb. All the user jerry-rigging and shortcuts in the world don't excuse fundamentally poor design decisions.

Yeah, I think the unified look across CBSi sites is fine, but there needs to be room for more customization.
Apparently they are in the process of changing the way videos are categorized and that might help.

I recently realized that there should be a clear indication on QLCrew whether the video is Premium or Free, I should get on that.

As for the video player. I hate it. Recent changes broke it even more. There is a lot of tracking going on in it, but all the request are done synchronously. Whenever you skip position it calls two or more urls and they must complete before the player even decides to do the seeking. This is horrible. Same thing happens when you click play. It makes it feels sluggish.

Yeah. Also I take back what I said about engineering being mostly solid because now I'm remembering how it seems like Giant Bomb polls have been fucked up since approximately 1952. How a basic poll function doesn't work is yet another great mystery to me.

By the way, is there a compact mode for Chat? Something like Slack (or really, IRC) which strips out the avatars and dead space around each post so it's more of a raw text feed? Browsing the chat on anything smaller than a 20" monitor is basically useless in its current layout. Again, could be a setting I'm missing.
 

Myggen

Member
I'm sure that works, but if anyone on the design or engineering team thinks this is acceptable, they should be replaced. Seriously. It's 2015 y'all, and it's still a pain in the ass to browse videos on Giant Bomb. All the user jerry-rigging and shortcuts in the world don't excuse fundamentally poor design decisions.

I'm just pointing you to the easiest option here.

Also, polls mostly work. There's some bugs there from time to time, but I would't really take that as an indicator that the poll system is fucked.

I pretty much always hide the chat so I wouldn't really know. I don't think there's an option like that though.
 

Spaghetti

Member
thought i'd spike my blood pressure so i decided to watch metal gear scanlon

jesus christ the start of episode 9. two walker gears, four soldiers, and a gunship overhead. drew tries to sprint past them.

i do not regret taking a week break from watching this series.
 

szlifier

Neo Member
What's wrong with the video player? I love the GB player. Having a fullscreen option that just fills the browser tab is so good and handy.

Yes, I like this option and actually made this for all embeds on the site.

When it works, it's great. But when you try to pause it for a while or change quality it tends to break often.
Things I do with it on my site make it break much more often. For normal use it's mostly fine.

There are also issues with the CDN and that just makes it more broken for many.
 

Zaph

Member
Yeah, I think the unified look across CBSi sites is fine, but there needs to be room for more customization.
Apparently they are in the process of changing the way videos are categorized and that might help.

I recently realized that there should be a clear indication on QLCrew whether the video is Premium or Free, I should get on that.

As for the video player. I hate it. Recent changes broke it even more. There is a lot of tracking going on in it, but all requests are done synchronously. Whenever you skip position it calls two or more urls and they must complete before the player even decides to do the seeking. This is horrible. Same thing happens when you click play. It makes it feels sluggish.

There is also the initial load of the video file and that could also be improved. The longer the video, the longer you have to wait for it to start playing.

All of this is giving me a headache when I want timestamps or chat archives to work properly. Today I switched to using YouTube embeds wherever I could. Clicking on a timestamp with a YouTube embed loads the video in like 2 seconds, vs. 10 with their video player.

Really appreciate your work dude. It's a crime so much great content is locked behind awful video navigation/playback, QLcrew is the cure.
 

Zornack

Member
^ Seconded. QLCrew lets me rewatch so much good content which I'd be unable to find without slogging through page after page of videos.
 
Any recommended GB videos from the past year? I'm new...

If you don't have a Premium membership -
Keep Talking And Nobody Explodes Quick Look
Contradiction - Spot The Liar Quick Look
Giant Bomb Makes Mario 1 & 2 + Patrick playing said levels on his personal YT channel.
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 5 Quick Look

If you do have a Premium membership -
All of Metal Gear Scanlon
All of the Contradiction videos
All of Demo Derby (particularly the most recent one, and the one where the thumbnail is a guy with his face all painted up with Playstation logos).
Mario Party Party 1-4.
 

Spaghetti

Member
dan doesn't know you can interrogate soldiers when they're held up. he doesn't tell drew the right door to get into emmerich's lab.

he played the game for over a hundred hours.

i can't.
 

Megasoum

Banned
(It's still the week-end right?)


So I'm watching the latest "Best of" video and Jeff really is in great shape these days. As someone who lost a lot of weight myself lately, I'm really happy for him. Looking gud
 

justjim89

Member
Sword Coast looks really cool. I'd love to see D&D series try out mini episodes or something with it. We're On A Quest from THAC or The Adventure Zone would be cool to see in that sort of environment.
 

Jothel

Member
(It's still the week-end right?)


So I'm watching the latest "Best of" video and Jeff really is in great shape these days. As someone who lost a lot of weight lately, I'm really happy for him. Looking gud
Yeah I didn't realise what a difference it was until I went back to an earlier video
 
(It's still the week-end right?)


So I'm watching the latest "Best of" video and Jeff really is in great shape these days. As someone who lost a lot of weight myself lately, I'm really happy for him. Looking gud

I've noticed Brad and Dan seem to have too! Giant Bomb is getting fit. Congrats on your weight loss!
 
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