Support NeoGAF

[skLaFarebear]

Guys I don't think I like Undertale much. I'm pretty sure I'm close to the end but I'm 100% hate-playing it at this point. It really overplays its hand imo. Like all the characters just get overbearing at a certain point and the whole middle of the game until now just feels like a slog.

I just had to get it out there. There has to be someone else who has some feelings other than undying adulation for this game, right?

Couldnt care less for it. Definitely the worst game I've played this year, though the games I've played this year were really good so i guess that's not saying much.

I just didn't like anything about it besides like three things.

 

[Patryn]

Alex played for the QL. Was at least10 hours in judging by his save.

Oh, right. Did I mix him up with Austin? I recall one of Beast hadn't played it.

 

[Jintor]

I was super on board with it like the first 2 hours but everything after the

Spoiler

Papyrus fight

has just been a drag. I can't stand that scientist character. Calls every 2 seconds, yeah I get it, you're an awkward weeb. Shut up already. I feel like Napstablook already nailed a lot of the same character traits more endearingly without hitting me over the head with it all the time.

Where are you up to? Finished the core?

 

[danm999]

I NEED TO KNOW IF GB IS DOING THE PGW CONFERENCE.

Seriously, I can no longer watch those conferences without them making fun of everything.

You filthy junkie.

Spoiler

I can't either.

 

[Hot Coldman]

Jeff's t-shirt game is very strong, yeah. Jealous.

 

[Jintor]

are the characters in Undertale all pretty-much one note

because that's a pretty good way to make me hate your game's writing

Most (but not all) of them are pretty one note, yeah. It's a five hour RPG, whatcha gonna do.

 

[demidar]

Where are you up to? Finished the core?

Hotland I bet, that place can be a drag.

The Core is only like, 10 rooms.

 

[skLaFarebear]

You filthy junkie.

Spoiler

I can't either.

Spoiler

Never going back to vanilla E3s ever again.

 

[Noray]

Where are you up to? Finished the core?

Almost, I'm at the end (I think) and I have to fight

Spoiler

Mettaton

. I died and quit because I've been playing mostly pacifist, although apparently it doesn't matter at all because I killed

Spoiler

Toriel

, because honestly who didn't their first time? So I'm super weak and combat, especially against bosses, is just frustrating and tedious as you try to figure out the solution to beat them.

 

[skLaFarebear]

Almost, I'm at the end (I think) and I have to fight

Spoiler

Mettaton

. I died and quit because I've been playing mostly pacifist, although apparently it doesn't matter at all because I killed

Spoiler

Toriel

, because honestly who didn't their first time? So I'm super weak and combat, especially against bosses, is just frustrating and tedious as you try to figure out the solution to beat them.

Spoiler

The path you're on is way better than pacifist anyway so you're much better off. You're near the end of the game, so you should definitely see it through.

If you're having a lot of trouble I'd go back and kill some enemies then and get some levels. You level up quick in this game.

 

[danm999]

I killed

Spoiler

Toriel

, because honestly who didn't their first time?

!

 

[Piston Hyundai]

Most (but not all) of them are pretty one note, yeah. It's a five hour RPG, whatcha gonna do.

Play a better game.

 

[Jintor]

Almost, I'm at the end (I think) and I have to fight

Spoiler

Mettaton

. I died and quit because I've been playing mostly pacifist, although apparently it doesn't matter at all because I killed

Spoiler

Toriel

, because honestly who didn't their first time? So I'm super weak and combat, especially against bosses, is just frustrating and tedious as you try to figure out the solution to beat them.

I mean, I can't force you to have fun or anything, and I can see how mercy puzzles can get frustrating... But it's worth it. (Also lol at the tutorial boss, it's kinda amazing how many people fall for that)

Load up on junk food down outside the hotel and keep going. DETERMINATION

 

[Jintor]

Play a better game.

I recommend undertale

Spoiler

better than both witcher 3 and mgsv, suckers

 

[blainethemono]

Once I got used to the steam controller and found the configuration that I liked, it absolutely outperforms my old 360 pad in third and first person games. I hate the sort of jerky movement that results from dual analog sticks, and there's none of that with the steam controller.

Keyboard and mouse is still king, of course, but the steam controller has surprised the hell out of me with how well it adapts across genres.

i've been playing through Life Is Strange with a config i modified from a mouse + keyboard layout that was already uploaded, and i love it

the haptics on the touchpads make moving the camera around pleasurable in itself, and it's definitely far quicker and more precise than analog sticks. i didn't really like using the right touchpad as an analog stick though, i couldn't find any settings that made it feel great

also it makes Euro Truck Simulator 2 fully playable without hauling my racing wheel out, so it's probably worth owning for that alone. that game was always impossible for me to play with a regular gamepad

 

[TheMrPliskin]

Oh, right. Did I mix him up with Austin? I recall one of Beast hadn't played it.

Austin has played it as well, the only person who hasn't played it (as far as we know) is Drew.

I recommend undertale

Spoiler

better than both witcher 3 and mgsv, suckers

This checks out.

 

[Antiwhippy]

I feel like undertale and life is strange might be the only 2 games I'll play this year that is up for giantbomb's goty contention.

3 if I get around to fallout 4 this year.

 

[Gozer the Gozerian]

Remember when Brad was a talking hamburger

 

[Noray]

I mean, I can't force you to have fun or anything, and I can see how mercy puzzles can get frustrating... But it's worth it. (Also lol at the tutorial boss, it's kinda amazing how many people fall for that)

Load up on junk food down outside the hotel and keep going. DETERMINATION

I spent literally all my money on the spider boss because that seemed like the thing to do.

Turns out it wasn't? idk. I did spare her.

 

[Hot Coldman]

Most (but not all) of them are pretty one note, yeah. It's a five hour RPG, whatcha gonna do.

I think this does a massive disservice to like every character. They're really not one-note. I mean, some are much more three-dimensional than others, but everyone has shit under the surface that makes them more interesting than their initial impression lets on.

 

[TheMrPliskin]

I spent literally all my money on the spider boss because that seemed like the thing to do.

Turns out it wasn't? idk. I did spare her.

I ended up doing the same thing and was able to get through the rest of the game just fine.

I think this does a massive disservice to like every character. They're really not one-note. I mean, some are much more three-dimensional than others, but everyone has shit under the surface that makes them more interesting than their initial impression lets on.

Spoiler

The Sans heel turn is incredible

 

[stump sock]

Play a better game.

Downwell's pretty good

 

[Twin Tails]

Remember when Brad was a talking hamburger

 

[demidar]

I spent literally all my money on the spider boss because that seemed like the thing to do.

Turns out it wasn't? idk. I did spare her.

Well there is a quick solution to that boss

Spoiler

if you bought something from the spider bake sale from The Ruin and you eat that item during the boss battle you win instantly

.

Downwell's pretty good

I still gotta get to that and Trails in the Sky: Second Chapter.

It's been a great year for smaller games.

 

[skLaFarebear]

Play a better game.

Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky Second Chapter this week!!!!!!!

 

[Hot Coldman]

Spoiler

The Sans heel turn is incredible

You seem confused as to whose heel is turning there.

 

[Jeevesmeister]

Rebel Galaxy is a better game than Undertale.

 

[Sleeping Lesson]

i've been playing through Life Is Strange with a config i modified from a mouse + keyboard layout that was already uploaded, and i love it

the haptics on the touchpads make moving the camera around pleasurable in itself, and it's definitely far quicker and more precise than analog sticks. i didn't really like using the right touchpad as an analog stick though, i couldn't find any settings that made it feel great

also it makes Euro Truck Simulator 2 fully playable without hauling my racing wheel out, so it's probably worth owning for that alone. that game was always impossible for me to play with a regular gamepad

Awesome! I agree that the haptics are really cool. I love the tactile feel of using the gyro with haptics turned on, it feels like you're really physically moving something in the controller. I wish it had trigger vibration like the Xbone controller, though.

Also, the trick is to set the right pad as a mouse input and not as an analog stick.

 

[Archaix]

Rebel Galaxy is a better game than Undertale.

Rebel Galaxy is a really good game as long as you have somewhere to look over there away from the screen because holy god is there a lot of pointing your ship at a place and waiting 30-90 seconds to get there while trying to find some place to put your controller that won't make so god damned much rumble noise.

 

[FStop7]

Remember when Brad was a talking hamburger

I re-watched this on Friday for some reason. Most of the time I was wondering why Danny was wearing a shirt with Rick Ross in pear form. It's one of the best UPFs, really.

 

[TheMrPliskin]

You seem confused as to whose heel is turning there.

Spoiler

Damn, you're right. Sans never really has a turn as he is a heel the whole time, it's you that turns out to be a horrible monster.

 

[Jintor]

I think this does a massive disservice to like every character. They're really not one-note. I mean, some are much more three-dimensional than others, but everyone has shit under the surface that makes them more interesting than their initial impression lets on.

I'd say it's about half and half. But really there's only ever, like, about 4 or 5 'serious' characters in play

I also feel like a lot of the char development/revelation requires multiple playthroughs to really grasp, which might be a knock against it for some

 

[Dragon Puncher]

are the characters in Undertale all pretty-much one note

because that's a pretty good way to make me hate your game's writing

Short answer: Side characters, yes. Main characters, no.

 

[blainethemono]

Awesome! I agree that the haptics are really cool. I love the tactile feel of using the gyro with haptics turned on, it feels like you're really physically moving something in the controller. I wish it had trigger vibration like the Xbone controller, though.

Also, the trick is to set the right pad as a mouse input and not as an analog stick.

that's what i've been trying to do mostly. trackball mode on the right touchpad with haptics set to high and low friction is what i've been trying to use. that doesn't seem to work for all the stuff i've tried, though

like I tried to use gamepad + mouse config for LIS, but the prompts keep changing between gamepad buttons and m+kb keys, which wouldn't be that much of a problem if Max didn't keep moving in the direction i was pressing as soon as i start moving the camera towards an object and let go of the left stick

also from what i've seen, i think MGSV has some stuff like that as well? like you can't really use gamepad + mouse without just setting up a full mouse and keyboard config, at which point you lose analog control of movement speed? i don't have MGSV on PC so i can't test it for myself

weirdness like that is stuff i'm sure will become less of a factor going forward though

 

[TharpDaddy]

I feel like undertale and life is strange might be the only 2 games I'll play this year that is up for giantbomb's goty contention.

3 if I get around to fallout 4 this year.

Only Austin has played Life is Strange iirc. Unless GBeast ends up playing through the whole thing I expect it'll get dropped pretty fast in goty due to no one playing it.

 

[SomberOwl]

If anyone has an affinity for Roller Coaster Tycoon, its for 1 and 2. And if that's true, Parkitect might be a better fit for them than RCT World. It too is coming soon (it's in early access right now for $15). Unlike RCT World, which continues the full 3D or RCT3, Parkitect has RCT 1 and 2's isometric look. http://www.themeparkitect.com/

That game looks pretty cool. Hopefully they do look at it. I do personally prefer the isometric look.

 

[Jeevesmeister]

Rebel Galaxy is a really good game as long as you have somewhere to look over there away from the screen because holy god is there a lot of pointing your ship at a place and waiting 30-90 seconds to get there while trying to find some place to put your controller that won't make so god damned much rumble noise.

So there's this website that puts out multiple 2-3 hour long podcasts about video games a week, maybe you've heard of it? Game Bomb, I think it's called?

 

[danm999]

Only Austin has played Life is Strange iirc. Unless GBeast ends up playing through the whole thing I expect it'll get dropped pretty fast in goty due to no one playing it.

I mean, a full playthrough seems certain at this point given how it blows the voting up week after week.

 

[skLaFarebear]

So there's this website that puts out multiple 2-3 hour long podcasts about video games a week, maybe you've heard of it? Game Bomb, I think it's called?

Gross. All they do is eat Taco Bell and talk about shitty video games.

 

[Sleeping Lesson]

that's what i've been trying to do mostly. trackball mode on the right touchpad with haptics set to high and low friction is what i've been trying to use. that doesn't seem to work for all the stuff i've tried, though

like I tried to use gamepad + mouse config for LIS, but the prompts keep changing between gamepad buttons and m+kb keys, which wouldn't be that much of a problem if Max didn't keep moving in the direction i was pressing as soon as i start moving the camera towards an object and let go of the left stick

also from what i've seen, i think MGSV has some stuff like that as well? like you can't really use gamepad + mouse without just setting up a full mouse and keyboard config, at which point you lose analog control of movement speed? i don't have MGSV on PC so i can't test it for myself

weirdness like that is stuff i'm sure will become less of a factor going forward though

Oh, yeah, I can totally see that being an issue. I'll keep that in mind, as I plan to get Life is Strange soon.

MGS does have that issue, but you can set the analog stick to two-stage so you can map walk to the first stage and run to the second. It's not quite analog, but it totally works in MGSV. Like you said, though, these are the little things that could be fixed very easily if games take the controller into consideration.

 

[stump sock]

Rebel Galaxy is a really good game as long as you have somewhere to look over there away from the screen because holy god is there a lot of pointing your ship at a place and waiting 30-90 seconds to get there while trying to find some place to put your controller that won't make so god damned much rumble noise.

it also falls off pretty hard after the first handful of hours and turns into a real grindfest. the base game is a blast but they didn't find much interesting to put in it

 

[Jeevesmeister]

I dunno man, once you figure out what build you wanna make it can be pretty okay. Mine is a close-range brawler that does damage when I ram ships with my barrier shield up.

 

[Myggen]

Gross. All they do is eat Taco Bell and talk about shitty video games.

The Witcher 3 cast.

 

[Keyser Soze]

I have figured out what Firewatch is...

https://twitter.com/govph/status/658788012503998464

 

[BearPawB]

Well it happened.
Got married this weekend.
Our "introduction" music, after the ceremony, was John Cena's entrance theme.
I only started watching wrestling because Dan and Jeff talked about it so much.

Now i know it has gone too far. (it was perfect!)

 

[Archaix]

I have figured out what Firewatch is...

https://twitter.com/govph/status/658788012503998464

If only we'd had this advice in 2008, Free Radical might still be around.

 

[Zaph]

Well it happened.
Got married this weekend.
Our "introduction" music, after the ceremony, was John Cena's entrance theme.
I only started watching wrestling because Dan and Jeff talked about it so much.

Now i know it has gone too far. (it was perfect!)

Congratulations! Did you have pyro?

 

[Twin Tails]

We Talk Over Sony's Paris Games Week Press Conference
LIVE SHOW ON OCT 27, 2015 09:30 AM

 

[Patryn]

Well it happened.
Got married this weekend.
Our "introduction" music, after the ceremony, was John Cena's entrance theme.
I only started watching wrestling because Dan and Jeff talked about it so much.

Now i know it has gone too far. (it was perfect!)

Congrats!

And, really? I mean... Really?

 

[Lunar FC]

We Talk Over Sony's Paris Games Week Press Conference
LIVE SHOW ON OCT 27, 2015 09:30 AM

To go to class or to not go to class.