He doesn't really say that it's all okay. He says that he's okay with the jank, but he agrees with Jeff that the huge things like potential game breaking bugs has got to go. It all seemed to be based on his opinion too (of him having given up on them improving on it) and not some larger statement about whether it's "okay" or not.
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He doesn't really say that it's all okay. He says that he's okay with the jank, but he agrees with Jeff that the huge things like potential game breaking bugs has got to go. It all seemed to be based on his opinion too (of him having given up on them improving on it) and not some larger statement about whether it's "okay" or not.
I'm never going to play Fallout 4, so I'm going with "Yes, it is."
BolognaSoup
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As messed up as Dan's newest level is, it could have been SOOOO much worse. After basically finishing the completion path he could have gone back and littered the thing with diversion. Pipes that instakill, looping doors, and pipes that aren't functional.
I mean I haven't played Fallout yet either, but Witcher seems like it outclasses it in every way.
The honest answer is that there is no single answer for this one.
For someone like Jeff, who really dislikes the Witcher, odds are he prefers Fallout 4, warts and all.
Basically it appears to come down to whether you like the Witcher or not. If you do, then the answer is probably yes.
If you're one of the people who doesn't really like the Witcher, there's a decent chance the answer is no.
stump sock
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if anything, the bad clipping and animations and everything is half the reason I like Bethesda games at this point, they never fail to be their own brand of shitty. if characters suddenly stopped levitating through the ceilings, the worlds would be more boring.
performance and progression bugs are pretty unacceptable though, especially for a full-priced product from a company with the resources to theoretically fix it.
SatelliteOfLove
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Yeah, that game is a narrative Dark Souls: if you ain't receptive it WILL fail and the subtlety and craft goes unnoticed.
skLaFarebear
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I really doubt they're gonna play a JRPG. I also love the game and its one of my favorites, but that game starts slow and goes slow. Its just not entertaining to watch.
Piston Hyundai
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Is the Witcher 3 a better game than Metal Gear Solid V?
Is Witcher 3 a better game than Yoshi's Woolly World?
The honest answer is that there is no single answer for this one.
If you think The Witcher 3 is a better game than Metal Gear Solid V, then The Witcher 3 is perhaps a better game than Metal Gear Solid V.
However, if you think Metal Gear Solid V is a better game than The Witcher 3, then Metal Gear Solid V is perhaps a better game than The Witcher 3.
Hope that helps.
skLaFarebear
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God damnit. Those yarn games blend together.
skLaFarebear
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It doesn't move fun, but it talks good
Even with all that jank it's quite boring.
I experienced in Fallout 4:
- quests breaking
- bad performance (PS4)
- people levitating and teleporting
- dialog skipping
- subtitles not appearing
- dialog not progressing (basically just saw my character without the prompts to pick an answer)
- enemies being able to shoot through walls
- me being able to shoot enemies through walls (despite not having that perk)
- bad camera angles during conversations
I could probably continue more, but except for some games that were completely broken this is the jankiest buggiest mess I have played in years. I think it's worse than Skyrim or Fallout 3.
Felix Lighter
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Fallout 4 would be a much better game for me if they ripped out all of the main character backstory and all of the "Out-of-time Savior of the Wasteland" stuff. It's my biggest issue. So far every interaction has been a cry for help and only, I, the guy who just crawled out of a vault a day ago, can save these life-long survivors from the horrors of the post-apocalyptic world. I can already feel that I'm being railroaded into being the most important and powerful person of this world, if I want to progress. It's hard to play your character differently if you want to actually do quests.
skLaFarebear
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With enemies still being able to move in VATS, that alone probably makes it tougher.
I think the game is barely a challenge on normal. So far I have barely even needed to use VATS. Just dumping bullets works.
skLaFarebear
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That makes sense. From what I saw of Dan's stream they give a ton of ammo, and you can actually aim properly outside of VATS unlike FO3.
Jeff said he barely used VATS the first half of the game.
That whine in Dan's voice whenever anyone even begins to criticize MGSV or anything about is obnoxious as fuck. It's gonna make the deliberations a real pain in the ass. Even this week's Bombcast, when Jeff and Brad say Venom Snake is not a hero, Dan's all "Eeeeeeeeh he's pretty cool, guys!" I can't be the only one put off by that. It's not even about me not liking MGSV. That's just not good podcast banter.
Some of this kinda goes for all video games. I don't always need to be the "one".
stump sock
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I keep getting rekt on normal, personally
maybe I'm just bad at games
but really Jeff's review pretty much nails the gist of it all. your enjoyment of the game directly correlates with your ability to tolerate the games (many, glaring) issues.
I think it's a fun game to lazily play while watching tv. that's kind of all I really wanted out of it anyway.
maybe I'm just bad at games
but really Jeff's review pretty much nails the gist of it all. your enjoyment of the game directly correlates with your ability to tolerate the games (many, glaring) issues.
I think it's a fun game to lazily play while watching tv. that's kind of all I really wanted out of it anyway.
Felix Lighter
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He also said that he used it a lot to simply counter the crippling performance issues that made aiming and shooting terrible.
Yeah, towards the end when it got really bad.
Yikes, that's rough timing.
I feel the same way. It's not like they build you up as a Demolition Man situation, where you were some super cop or soldier in your previous life.
It sucks, I have all of these pristine suits/dresses, and a tuxedo, but because I upgraded my vault suit nothing is anywhere near as good. Also for some reason you can't wear armor over a tux, that seems like a wasted opportunity.
skLaFarebear
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Ocelot and Solidus are heroes tho.
BreezyLimbo
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Actually....you are a soldier. Well, the guy is. I dunno about the woman.
stump sock
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as far as I can tell she was just a housewife, which is making my playthrough kind of funny. you guys think the dude's narrative is busted? try the lady.
Was he? I haven't gotten too far into the story yet. Why wouldn't the intro bring that forth? Unless I missed a detail the beginning just spoke about war in general.
BreezyLimbo
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The intro does exactly that. The wife comments on the opening speech/intro taking place at a veterans hall. She mentions that they'll start a normal life now that he's out of the army.
It's in the first 10 minutes of the game.
Dammit, stump. Stop making it sound interesting.
One of the biggest reasons I like Bethesda RPGs is that the main character is mainly a blank slate. I really hope they don't keep going down this road in the next Elder Scrolls game.
I think they mention in the intro that she has a law degree, but I don't recall them saying if she actually did anything with it.
I think they mention in the intro that she has a law degree, but I don't recall them saying if she actually did anything with it.
MassiveNights
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I really like Dan in video content but I rarely enjoy his contributions to the Bombcast and when I do it's when he is not talking about games.
Incandenza
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Kinda glad I'm still working on finishing a Certain Other 2015 RPG right now because it means that like a month from now I'll be able to come into this thread and say "Yo so what's the final word on Fallout 4? Is the dialogue fucked? Is The Shooting good?" and get a solid idea of whether it's worth my time.
stump sock
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if you have the same warped sense of "interesting" as I do, then you're already beyond help
and the shooting is good, I doubt you'll find many reasonable people who seriously have issues with it. it's one of the few things you'd really have to stretch to criticise. not that that's stopping people.
Piston Hyundai
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I've played Fallout 4 for an hour and a half, and half of that time was spent with a headache because of the blurriness the game's AA solution has and the 70 FOV.
I'm pretty sure he meant that in a joking "sure, but he's pretty cool" way and not a "he totally is a role model because of how cool he is" way. He mentioned that he needed to get his daughter on wrestling, so it's kind of obvious that he wasn't being particularly serious.
I'm pretty sure he meant that in a joking "sure, but he's pretty cool" way and not a "he totally is a role model because of how cool he is" way. He mentioned that he needed to get his daughter on wrestling, so it's kind of obvious that he wasn't being particularly serious.
Death Metalist
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With them moving to a new studio who knows what will happen.
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