Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Actually I was looking through my steam list trying to find my time played on FO3, and realised that I never got it on steam and finished it on the PS3.
Wooof.
Wooof.
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Giant Bomb 18: Everything is always a surprise on some level
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didn't people like FO3 when it first came out? I'm kinda curious to go back to those old GOTY discussions if they existed that far back. i forget.
War Peaceman
You're a big guy.
Yeah Fallout 3 is diabolical. The plot in that game is probably the worst for any game where plot is important.
Once you leave White Orchard?
Bloody Baron is most people's early hook
I'm still stalled around that playtime too and also really enjoyed the Witcher 2. I think pacing is a huge component to that. The story is slow paced and quite dry so far. The gameplay and combat is not the most enjoyable thing to do.
N
Noray
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The story doesn't pick up at all until Act 2, which takes a long time to get there. There are two big flaws with the story of that game imo: The Wild Hunt itself and Act 1 being too long and having too much filler. The Triss story in Novigrad is good but everything related to Dandelion can go fuck itself. Fuck Dandelion anyway, what a smug prick.
yea, $40 would've been fine. $60 is insane to me for a niche shmup on PSN.
stump sock
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the problem with the weapon modding in FO4 is that there is a definitive "best build" for every gun type
like everything else in that game, it sounds great in bulletpoint form and is totally underwhelming in practice
like everything else in that game, it sounds great in bulletpoint form and is totally underwhelming in practice
no idea, but i think it determines what other quests you do for which factions to complete the game.
stump sock
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I dunno, maybe like 5 hours tops if you go straight through. +/- some time depending on how far you are in faction quests
i might just suck it up and choose one and complete game. that's what saves are for.
Haunted
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I called the Fallout 4 twist in the main storyline
Since I didn't pay attention to the promo materials, I didn't even know synths were a thing in Fallout 4, so entering Diamond City and hearing about Android people was a bigger surprise to me, though it wasn't intended as one compared to the spoiler above. :lol
But worse than the lukewarm main story is the utter lack of interesting and surprising side quests. The Vaults (arguably my favourite part of Fallout lore) are probably the weakest ever compared to all the insidious and twisted shit we've gotten in the past. It honestly looked like they ran out of ideas on how to improve on their past work and simply did their main stuff by the numbers and chose to put the actual new development work into a lateral branch, following the template of another highly influential game instead.
Thanks Minecraft.
with a lot of time having passed in that second fade to black in cryo and your son being an old man a couple minutes into the game, as soon as the main character took such pains to make sure the dialogue always mentioned infants, I instinctively thought it was a red herring.
Since I didn't pay attention to the promo materials, I didn't even know synths were a thing in Fallout 4, so entering Diamond City and hearing about Android people was a bigger surprise to me, though it wasn't intended as one compared to the spoiler above. :lol
But worse than the lukewarm main story is the utter lack of interesting and surprising side quests. The Vaults (arguably my favourite part of Fallout lore) are probably the weakest ever compared to all the insidious and twisted shit we've gotten in the past. It honestly looked like they ran out of ideas on how to improve on their past work and simply did their main stuff by the numbers and chose to put the actual new development work into a lateral branch, following the template of another highly influential game instead.
Thanks Minecraft.
i agree that they fucked up the Vaults in this game. there is almost nothing really great with the ones i found so far. no mystery like with FO3. maybe i just haven't encountered the good ones?
Mass Effect's stubborn refusal to include official controller support in any of its PC releases remains one of last gen's most baffling mysteries to me.
Also, I see that my tastes continue to differ from a majority of this thread, because I am enjoying the hell out of Fallout 4. I really, really like it.
Not my GOTY... that's still Shadowrun Dragonfall (which isn't from this year, but I only played it this year).
shortsFortallPeople
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They should just hire Obsidian to handle the Fallout games and not even bother themselves. They're the only ones to make a good 3d fallout anyway
modders do what EA dont
The story really started getting interesting once you got to Novigrad but gets actually great when you hit Skellige and beyond.
EA are idiots thinking kb/m is the preferred way to play on PC for everyone even when ME3 is available on consoles.
FO4 has flaws and definitely doesn't measure up to other open world RPGs that came out this year. but yea, I'm having fun with it.
It's weird...
I love both Witcher 3 and Fallout 4 but I kinda don't want to go back to neither of them.
Witcher 3 mostly because I find the sheer size of the game intimidating.
For Fallout 4 it's the whole settlement/crafting thing that intimidate/annoys me. I know that this is mostly optional but still. I don't fucking want to have to micro manage all my weapons and armor and all that bs.
I have a bit of a crazy life these days so my gaming time is a bit on the shirt side. I think that's why I enjoy more games like Tomb Raider or Tales from the Borderlands right now. That being said... I think I'm more interested to going back to AC Syndicate than to Witcher or Fallout.
Wow I just remembered that MGS5 exists too lol... Yeah fuck it, that game is dead to me, never going back to that one, too much bullshit that outweigh the very average main gameplay loop. God I just realized that Dan will really annoy me during the goty talks when he will fight for that game...ugh.
I love both Witcher 3 and Fallout 4 but I kinda don't want to go back to neither of them.
Witcher 3 mostly because I find the sheer size of the game intimidating.
For Fallout 4 it's the whole settlement/crafting thing that intimidate/annoys me. I know that this is mostly optional but still. I don't fucking want to have to micro manage all my weapons and armor and all that bs.
I have a bit of a crazy life these days so my gaming time is a bit on the shirt side. I think that's why I enjoy more games like Tomb Raider or Tales from the Borderlands right now. That being said... I think I'm more interested to going back to AC Syndicate than to Witcher or Fallout.
Wow I just remembered that MGS5 exists too lol... Yeah fuck it, that game is dead to me, never going back to that one, too much bullshit that outweigh the very average main gameplay loop. God I just realized that Dan will really annoy me during the goty talks when he will fight for that game...ugh.
Haunted
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There are four in Fallout 4 aside from your starting one, I've visited three of them and they were fucking boring.
I'm pinning all my hopes on the last one blowing it out of the water (when I can find the energy to return to that game, I've still got so many better ones to play instead).
well, that's a bummer. was looking forward to some good fucked up Vaults.
Given how the general view of Fallout 4 seems to have developed since launch, I've gotta wonder if Bethesda knew that they had a somewhat disappointing (you might argue about how disappointing it is, but even many of the people who are enjoying their time with the game seem to be of the opinion that it's pretty underwhelming) game on their hands and if this was the reason for the unusually late announcement and therefore short preview/hype cycle for the game.
avengers23
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I wonder if we'll get a QL for SteamWorld Heist.
shortsFortallPeople
Banned
speaking of heists: I wonder if dan will return to the swindle. They've patched up that last heist area so that it's not total bullshit anymore. Would love to see him finish the game.
I think they were too confident in the game, maybe not quality wise but definitely not seeing the fatigue on the market with open world games.
I still think FO4 is a good game, I haven't enjoyed the story much, but I've had a lot of fun with the gameplay and I enjoy exploring and seeing hints (and sometimes more) of life from before and after the war. Looking at my steam counter I've put in 60 hours so it must be doing something right.
I'm having a hard time deciding my favorite game this year though. It was between Pillars of Eternity and TW3, but I've been enjoying Xenoblade X far more than I thought I would, it might be my favorite open world game.
I'm having a hard time deciding my favorite game this year though. It was between Pillars of Eternity and TW3, but I've been enjoying Xenoblade X far more than I thought I would, it might be my favorite open world game.
Salty Catfish
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I'd be curious to hear what the development of Fallout 4 was like. In a lot of respects it has the feel of a game that had stuff added or scrapped and rebuilt late in development. The settlement mechanics in particular feel like they were thrown together weeks before that first E3 trailer and never polished before the game shipped.
Felix Lighter
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I'm fairly sure there is a mod for that. Let me find the thread.
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Here http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1016179
I haven't used it but you could take a look at that.
EmCeeGramr
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Replaying Fallout 1 and 2 is a really jarring experience. The "open world" is just a map where random encounters can occur, there's not 10,000 pounds of junk in every corner and desk, finding good gear and healing items is a rarity early on which encourages you to stay away from high level enemies and areas, Raiders and Super Mutants can talk and aren't just Drug Zombies and Gun Orcs, Vaults are super rare and don't really have super fucked up psychological experiment horror backstories, and the "it's the 1950s but blown up!!!!!" aesthetic is very subdued outside of the intro movie, the look of the cars and robots, and the interface.
edit: oh, and people live in buildings that are kinda dirty but aren't falling apart trashpiles in the midst of rubble. There are even new buildings and electric signs! That they made themselves!
edit: oh, and people live in buildings that are kinda dirty but aren't falling apart trashpiles in the midst of rubble. There are even new buildings and electric signs! That they made themselves!
It feels like a game originally made for last-gen consoles.
N
Noray
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Now that just isn't true. I think the combat is legitimately good. It's actually a good shooter imo. It looks good and has great atmosphere, which makes the act of exploring enjoyable, to me at least.
Also the Vault where they locked up drug addicts, took away their drugs, and then reintroduced drugs months later when everyone was clean was fucked up and a good bit of storytelling.
they started right after FO3 was done so yea.
They looked at Fallout and Skyrim mods and then hastily decided to implement their own inferior version.
shortsFortallPeople
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hey, that didn't stop MGSV from still looking really good in the current gen. Destiny is also a looker and that's being held back by last gen, too.
Bethesda just doesn't give a shit. And, given that millions went ahead and bought their latest meh-fest, the public just proved that they dont need to.
to be fair, FNV pretends FO3 didn't exist, either
Meanwhile NV happened and Bethesda pretends like it didn't ever exist.
MGSV looks Last Gen + polish through and through.
To its benefit. Also I'm not talking lore, I'm talking design.
I thought that I never quite got into the main story of Fallout 4 up until I was nearly done with the game. And yet, YET, there was a moment just after the climax of the game that was more emotional for me than anything else I had played this year. It was just a perfect collision of the game's themes, characters, and the choices I had made. It upgraded by opinion of the game from pretty decent all the way to actually good.
Could you spoil it for me? It might help me decide if it's worth going back for.
ratcliffja
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If I thought XC had a garbage story and terrible VO but I loved the gameplay systems, music, and world, would I enjoy XCX?
Most consider the story and VO worse in XCX and the music is highly divisive, but I'd say the gameplay and the world are better than XC.
I need Vinny to get everyone together to play either Gang Beasts or Nidhogg.
Keyser Soze
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Oh god, the audio. Their temporary studio fort sure does sound as tiny as it looks. It's like they're quick looking a game from the trunk of a car.
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