Twin Tails
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Giant Bomb 18: Everything is always a surprise on some level
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Really? He gave it 3/5 and only on consoles. It is ridiculous how anything lower than a near perfect score is considered eviscerating a game.
The man most people associate with Rooster Teeth, Burnie Burns (who was the host of that YT stage at PAX), is a fan of Jeff.
Death Metalist
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It's not about being a fan of Jeff or not though, their discussion is still stupid even if they didn't bring his name in it lol.
Thanks.
Wow these people are fucking idiots.
Twin Tails
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Burnie was also on the e3 night show.
No argument here.
Death Metalist
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Especially since he usually lies to us.
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I adore this. I raise you, Extreme - More Than Words (Cover) with Brad and Vinny.
Vinny Singing a few songs was a Highlight of extra life for me.
Death Metalist
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Wow. Her point could have been partly justified if she completely revised her argument to the other person's minor point about people having different experiences in the technical performance in Fallout 4 and their threshold tolerance for glitches, which creates a wide spectrum in review scores. Unfortunately, all three went down a completely nonsensical route of analysis on the hidden incentives of assigning scores to video games. This is particularly odd given they were talking about Giantbomb. Its creation was caused by Jeff's dismissal at Gamespot; prompted by sticking to his integrity in the Kane and Lynch review.
stump sock
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I'm having a good time, but I'm also playing on a system that should be tearing through the game, but it runs like shit and crashes. I can put up with a lot of jank, but these are the kinds of issues that can and should cause a game to be raked over the coals.
it's kind of not okay to say "game barely works at times but it's a good game so 9/10"
TheMrPliskin
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It's like I'm listening to a forum argument.
I was glad to see Jeff B mention that the PC port is kind of a mess.
Can we get a picture of Jeff dressed up as the Swedish Chef?
Jimmyfenix
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swedish jeff looks pissed off
Yeah. One day people will learn reviews are just opinions. One day.
I also hope they learn to that reviewers are just people like you and I that are paid to give their opinions and are not some kind of mystical neutral arbiter of universal quality.
Spirit of Jazz
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It's like the kids who lost their minds over the 8.8 debacle got jobs in the field.
Glitchesarecool
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Man, I can see why people like Undertale but it's just not striking me at all. I love the characters, Sans is best skeleton 2015 and all that, but I just don't feel the reverence that people have for it.
I never heard of this and now I really don't want to know.
Backfoggen
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Gonna have to wait for PS5 before I can actually good bye to real life.
stump sock
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TheMrPliskin
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I personally wasn't super into it until I hit the final hour or so, that final hour in combination with looking up stuff I missed ended up putting the game in my number one spot for this year. I could certainly see it not hitting as hard if you've been hearing praise for so long at this point but I'd still advise seeing it through if you have any interest in doing so.
Fandoms are insane and the game was practically designed to appeal to the tumblr fandom crowd
i think it stems for a number of reasons.
The first is that some people do believe, correctly or incorrectly, that there is a degree of objectivity in the analysis of games i.e. reviews. The technical nature of video games, relative to other entertainment mediums such as film and TV, mean that video games could be objectively analysed from a technical standpoint. This could also stem from other points. For instance, game critics or 'YouTubers' are ingrained in there own social norms of game design and preferences, moulded by their own history, culture and they type of critical game media they consume. Now, whether you think a review of games are objective, subjective or a subtle combination is up to you. This is subjective in itself!
The second reason is that games media, moreso than other types of media, tends to attract a warlike admiration with fans of video game series, paralleled only by sports fans (I am thinking of football in this case). This culture creates an irrational dislike of any criticisms. This also prevents nuanced discussion about games to surface. For instance, by providing anecdotal evidence, videos that provide a list of the 'top 10 reasons why this game is disappointing' have to signal, at the start of a video, they they still love this series, and that criticism is a signal of their love for the series. This wouldn't need to be signalled in the video games review industry if people, generality here, were not irrational.
This brings me onto another point. There are a wide spectrum of frameworks and criteria that reviewers use to analyse video games. With the rise of the internet as a forum for this, the variation has exploded. People who are foreign to one type of framework may misunderstand and therefore could dislike another. This can range from the type of scale they us to review games, if they review games from a comparative perspective in its series/genre or in an absolute perspective, against a more rigorous technical standpoint rather than its artistic achievements, and more. Again, these frameworks are moulded by a complex interplay of history, experience and perspective.
To conclude, peoples' perspectives of video games are wide ranging and formed by a wide variety of history, experience and media consumption. An asymmetry in the consumer's knowledge of various frameworks and reviewer's histoires also help exacerbate this. All of these are general points that, of course, do not cover everybody.
I definitely felt underwhelmed of most of my first playthrough because of how much people were hyping it up that first week. But once I finally got over that it really grew on me and I enjoyed my second run a lot more.
Twin Tails
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The dream is dead.
skLaFarebear
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This was supposed to be the natural evolution of visual novels tho ._.
BreezyLimbo
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They are morons. Straight up. They don't understand what a review is if they say 'WELL EVERYONE WAS GIVING IT OVER 90, WHY AREN'T YOU?'.
skLaFarebear
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Yeah, the game's mostly a boring mess. The very few times it actually manages to come together (like two), its pretty incredible and can create for some really special moments, but that game's pacing is all kinds of fucked and the writing is all over the place. I can definitely see why people love it though.
Even though it might not have been the writer's intention, that's what most of the writing felt like to me too.
It's like these people never grew up.
I mean, I can kind of understand that (I search for "Alphys" and one of the top images is... questionable), but it's not like the critical acclaim that the game has received from a bunch of websites to make it one of the highest rated games this year is because of the "tumblr fandom crowd."
avengers23
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The reduced fat cream cheese of video game editorials.
BreezyLimbo
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Yeah saying that...Giant Bomb and Jeff by extension is 'trying to be different' it's like...motherfucker Jeff has been in the game industry longer than you have.
Man, I usually don't get riled up by stupid comments, but that one just Drew my ire.
skLaFarebear
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Man I'm cringing. There's certainly a point to make here about overwhelming negativity, but mocking people with dumb voices and review scores just makes you look so dumb lol.
A clip-on tie.
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