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Giant Bomb 18: Everything is always a surprise on some level
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There's nothing to apologise for. The state of the industry and the publisher/press/youtuber relationship is a topic that's frequently raised by GB and Jeff, so it's always going to bleed into here.
stump sock
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it's not really a secret that for the most part, in the eyes of gaffers, developers walk on water. I don't know if it's a matter of dream-job idolization or what. they're the "good guys," weirdly in a time where they have unprecedented ability to screw over customers on many levels. but fuck Kotaku, right?
the Kotaku post is dumb as hell, admittedly. "we're cool, dangerous guys who keep it so real the game industry hates us!" if it came off as slightly less self-aggrandizing, it might have been a decent indemnification of shady industry practices.
I thought so too, but given the endless irrational hate Kotaku gets, while being one of the few sites that truly do serve their readers at a cost to themselves, I think they've earned a bit of self-fellating.
Fotheringay
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I frankly don't know enough about how journalism operates in other sectors, particularly other entertainment mediums, to really come down on Bethesda's decision one way or another. But Kotaku running that story, and then Polygon piggy-backing with a comment that literally says "Typically what it does is make you double down on digging into them, coming away with a Fuck It attitude" and you have the perfect recipe for a backfire. I think it demonstrates what really makes money and sells ads though when Kotaku claims to have in-the-know sources and able to do some real dirt digging, but what really hurts them is being cut-off from early review copies.
I'll never understand when people have a thing to get rid off and the thing that pops into their mind is "I should send this used thing to the Giant Bomb office". Like...that's an android phone and super common 360 games, what are you thinking?
So the Bombcast discussions about the 2009 GOTY made me look at my list from back then. I put Batman before Uncharted 2. I feel like I was ahead of the curve: http://www.giantbomb.com/profile/xater/lists/best-of-2009/20837/
They serve their readers by posting latest thing they read on reddit to fill their daily article quota
Developers, particularly Bethesda, get shit talked all the time on GAF.
nckillthegrimace
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Dan definitely doesn't have a blue collar job, but can you even call what he does white collar work? It's more like a fucking bib.
Piston Hyundai
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this was a problem way before they hired dan
I was also going to make a joke about dan
No idea what Dan does behind the scenes but Jeff and Vinny have pulled back the curtain on their workloads a couple of times and it's a _lot_ of real/hard work. No reason to think Dan's day is any easier.
Sleeping Lesson
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I agree. I think it absolutely would have been within their remit to say "please don't send us literal garbage" after that one mailbag.
I can only imagine his garage
Fotheringay
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But then how would Dan get his hands on the later copies of Mario Party?
skLaFarebear
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Whatever gives him an excuse to be OCD about organizing his collection.
From reading more about that Kotaku stuff, I can see both sides. From a development point of view(not just games), I'd be super bummed if my stuff leaked early and I'd be less inclined to talk to the outlet that reported it
From Kotaku's,if it benefits myself and my readers and isn't illegal(like that Gawker article a few months ago) I'd probably report it. I'd also not be surprised if the company were less forthcoming with any sort of information in the future.
From Kotaku's,if it benefits myself and my readers and isn't illegal(like that Gawker article a few months ago) I'd probably report it. I'd also not be surprised if the company were less forthcoming with any sort of information in the future.
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I audibly said "fuck off" at Brad's "I question how much Mario Maker is a game".
Now that i think about it, i have probably never heard any developer actively working with a big studio or otherwise claim the industry needs more secrecy.
skLaFarebear
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Yup. I'm ready to see just how far Brad goes down this hole.
He needs to fuck this list up hard then regret it 6 years from now.
avengers23
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Yeah, I'd want to get my stuff out there whenever but just in a state that would hopefully do it justice.
Sleeping Lesson
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Yeah fuck that Jeff guy informing people the game has technical problems what an ass. Seriously what is wrong with these people I like the game but it is a mess and not even in a fun haha look at this physics bug sort of mess. I've had main line quests completely bug out on me I nearly had to restart the game 40 hours in when it happened but somehow I managed to cheese my way through it despite none of the enemies showing as hostile and none of the NPCs talking to me.
Jeff's response to it is absolutely perfect though.
Maybe because there is no end goal? Most games have you working towards something, and once you accomplish that the game is over while Mario Maker is more just playing levels and then moving on.
I mean that probably isn't what he meant, but I can't think of anything else that he could have meant.
Piston Hyundai
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Metal Gear Solid V, ideally.
Sleeping Lesson
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Oh, like DOTA. And Destiny.
Oh I could totally imagine a 'how much of a game' arguement, especially combined with the question of GB's experience not representative of the wider audience.
Can't wait. Come on Brad, I know you can do it. Caffeine up and unleash the filibuster.
You read my mind.
ScottSullivan
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I havent even been able to play mm yet but i heartily disagree with this sentiment, i remember a time in gaming where exploration and challenge was enough, call of duty 4 has ruined everything and now everyone needs progression for something to be worth playing its sad
There is a point at which Destiny ends though, there is not an unlimited amount of content.
But like I said I was just coming up with some reason he could have said that, but maybe Brad knows he shouldn't have said that.
Just to be clear, I do not actually agree with what I said I just thought it might have been a thought that Brad would have considered.
benicillin
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nckillthegrimace
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You're right.
Sleeping Lesson
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It's gonna be so good.
Oh yeah I understand and appreciate your attempt at a patently absurd devil's argument. I just couldn't resist.
TharpDaddy
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i've always been tila tequila, just no ones realized it yet
SuperBanana
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It can't get any crazier than when he stumbed across an unopened game worth about $11,000.
But what will he be fighting for? MGSV?
santeesioux
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Yep, I live on the Oregon-Cali border, and the people that live here are very different from the Bay people. I'm talking like blue collar, farmer people.
Twin Tails
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Backfoggen
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The Gunpoint Rope-a-Dope.
Somehow I knew exactly what you added before I even watched the video.
Jeff's response was as usual, beautiful.
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