Never owned a fight stick but this man deserves so much praise for stuff with that.
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Never owned a fight stick but this man deserves so much praise for stuff with that.
Do they get into spoilery stuff for UC4? Still haven't played it yet.
Concrete Charlie
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Video is 90 minutes long and was posted 30 minutes ago.
I'm biased but- will it?
Mighty No. 9 always seemed like Inafune/Comcept trying to launch a brand to milk, given how prematurely they started touting things like an animated series, merchandising, etc. That shows in the game, so I'm not surprised it looks so soulless. Not to mention the Kickstarter's stretch goals had unnecessary shit like cross-platform online play. That mess came from the top down, and backers and Inti Creates got shafted by a hollow desire to follow up on the Mega Man legacy.
People like to shit on Shenmue, but you can't deny the significant amount of heart behind how Shenmue III came about. A French businessman (who happened to be a fan) got together with Yu Suzuki, got SEGA to licence the IP, launched a triple world-record breaking Kickstarter on one of the biggest stages in gaming (again, with the help from a fan), and went on to hire fans to work on the project too. There's so much personal investment from the developers to make Shenmue III good (not least from Yu Suzuki himself, the man cried with happiness backstage at E3 and again on the end of KS live-stream), that I don't think that effort will go unnoticed.
Not that Mighty No. 9 wasn't made with some degree of love, but it's clear Inafune saw it just as a business opportunity. I think that is a key difference between both projects (I also think S3's KS stretch goals were more smartly structured too, but it's not worth going into that), that will help Shenmue III, as another poster said, "pull a DOOM".
As for the dev cycle of Shenmue III, I can't really say anything beyond what they've told backers. They're keeping their cards close to their chest, but they released a simple workflow graphic last year, and seem to just be getting on with the meat and potatoes of test-driven development. When asked what the biggest challenges of the project were so far, Yu Suzuki seemed confident that they'd only struggled with lack of up to date UE4 documentation in Japanese, and trouble finding experienced UE4 developers in the country.
I know he could hiding something else, but I'll take him for his word considering how open he's been about the project before, which caused a few overblown headlines.
As for this, Sony are publishing and marketing the PS4 version, which offsets costs that would otherwise be diverted from the development budget. SIE's Third Party Production Team does seem to have some kind of oversight over the project though, seeing how YSnet is on the list of stops Gio Corsi and Boyes make when they're in Japan on business. Shibuya Productions are the main investor. No idea how much or how little money that is, but they're at least headed by someone who loves the series unconditionally and has a real monetary and personal stake in making the game succeed.
Don't get me wrong, Shenmue III is an uphill battle. I just don't see the point on shitting on the underdog. The idea of a former superstar developer coming together with fans to work on the ultimate passion project sounds exciting, to be honest.
Sorry for the long ass post. I usually just lurk in this thread, but I felt I needed to say something given that this thread usually turns into an echo chamber with certain games. Which is fine, people gravitate to this thread given that their tastes are mostly in-sync with GB staff, and only Dan has ever admitted to liking Shenmue, but y'know, I felt like sticking up for the game because nobody else seemed to.
Back onto something GB related:
My relationship with Vinnyvania is so bittersweet. I love the series, but I know they'll run out of Castlevania games eventually, because Konami will probably never make another ever again. Can't wait for a Vinnyvania stream in 2022 when they smuggle a Castlevania pachinko machine through Emperor Trump's steel wall using a magnet levitation system.
15 min so far and this is EXACTLY what I hoped it would be! <3
Edit: Had to rewind on the DDA part looking for the small indicator. It's a white spot right in the middle of that black line to the left of the text.
MassiveNights
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I have faith in Yu Suzuki
I've hoped for years that they would get Cowboy to do some sort of solo feature. He's clearly incredible at what he does but is not the kind of guy to talk a lot on the E3 streams when there's 3 other guests. This format is perfect. Really looking forward to watching it when I get home later tonight.
This can also be a huge double edge sword. Every change to characters or systems could be met by resentment by the team working on the game or it ending up as a budget remake of the last game.
It's a question that can be answered at your leisure.
Always nice when someone familiar with the matter comes out of the woodwork and chimes in.
I'm curious how they'll update all the IMHO outdated systems (or won't they?) of shenmue and still capture the same atmosphere.
heart has sadly never translated into quality
that is not to say shenmue 3 will turn out one way or the other, though i think it will largely depend on how one evaluates the previous two installments and how much reconsideration and reconceptualisation one deems necessary as a result of that
that is not to say shenmue 3 will turn out one way or the other, though i think it will largely depend on how one evaluates the previous two installments and how much reconsideration and reconceptualisation one deems necessary as a result of that
correct answer: a lot
Glitchesarecool
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I knew Spaghetti would show up, duder's been in every one of those Shenmue threads since the game was announced. If anyone's going to know the going-ons of the project, it'll be them.
I wouldn't exactly say that people aren't sticking up for the game in any kind of malicious way, just that a lot of people had the same reaction to the announcement that Jeff did--tepid, or "what just happened?" Shenmue was the last game anyone expected to be announced (other than if you were following Yu's twitter) precisely because it's such a fan game. As has been discussed by them, it will be interesting to see if Shenmu3 continues with the gameplay that fans want, or if they'll make concessions for a wider audience.
I think right now it's impossible to say how the game will do.
Nah, just a big fan!
I wouldn't exactly say that people aren't sticking up for the game in any kind of malicious way, just that a lot of people had the same reaction to the announcement that Jeff did--tepid, or "what just happened?" Shenmue was the last game anyone expected to be announced (other than if you were following Yu's twitter) precisely because it's such a fan game. As has been discussed by them, it will be interesting to see if Shenmu3 continues with the gameplay that fans want, or if they'll make concessions for a wider audience.
I think right now it's impossible to say how the game will do.
Nah, just a big fan!
Backfoggen
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Shenmue is a bullshit forklift simulator for assholes.
Do you want to know more beyond the basics of "If company A owns a large amount of stock in company B, they have more bargaining power regarding the operation of company B because they can form a voting block with other stockholders"?
also i played some overwatch and yo that game is rad.
really interesting how almost all classes have, like, 1 weapon and that's it. really simplifies things. But the complex ability game is sick
I'm looking forward to sad Riccardo voices.
MassiveNights
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Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Have you see Dave Lang's pics? He perfected the teenager girl stare into the camera look.
War Peaceman
You're a big guy.
Ugh I really hope not. I think Overwatch, whilst still very good, is already too complex compared to original TF2. TF2 was great for having clear and easily identifiable roles for the classes. Overwatch has a lot of overlap between character abilities and roles which in a first-person, high pace games is too confusing.
Overwatch has alternate heroes to fill the same role as the alternate load outs of TF2. I think Blizzard will just add new heroes that they can just sell more skins for rather than implement new things for the current set. I could see the hero load out eventually getting DOTA bad if the game does hold steady.
There's a lot of nuance that isn't explained (or relegated to tips). Like how Winston and Symmetra's beam guns go through Reinhardt's shield, or that Genji can deflect McCree's Deadshot back at him for an instant kill.
Orrrr they could give Junkrat a shield and a sword.
Nah. They'll just introduce new heroes instead of new weapons. Can sell way more cosmetics that way.
NumberThree
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He is, after all, a white Australian biclops.
somestickguy
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As an Australian I can confirm that all Australians who are also biclops carry around a sword and shield during their day-to-day affairs.
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this is my favorite one yet
MassiveNights
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Awesome
You should do an Always Sunny intro gag video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=la7dOcxaS1Q
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somestickguy
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This... is a possibility I am willing to entertain!
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Woah.... amazing!
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Glorious
MassiveNights
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I imagine the Hitman videos are a goldmine for this kind of thing.
Glitchesarecool
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stop being so damn good at these things
Incandenza
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I suppose that's true, but I also feel like Overwatch's characters have a lower barrier to entry compared to TF2. I've played a couple dozen hours of TF2 and even after all that I'm still afraid to play Spy, because I know I would only be a burden to my team. Whereas with Overwatch I was never afraid to jump into a character, because after 10 minutes or so I always had a good enough grip to at least feel like I was contributing something, even if I was missing a lot of the higher level strategies.
Edit: TF2 also had recommended class builds that required you to unlock a lot of items before you could try them, which really discouraged me from trying out new classes
somestickguy
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If I were to do it, It'd be either this or Mario Party Party.
This is less because Spy has a high barrier of entry and more because Spy is an extremely situational class that relies as much on the other team fucking up as your own skill.
Glitchesarecool
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Well there's also a lot of juking/hitbox abusing that you have to get good at if you want to be a real top tier spy.
Salty Catfish
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Yeah I can understand maybe 50% of the lingo he's using but it's still interesting as hell. Always cool when GB leverages their dev connections for cool stuff like this and the Witness video.
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