Sleeping Lesson
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I think it's in bad taste to rank the Duders, but it does feel like the site is in a funk right now. Looking up Whiskey-era content last night, there were fun streams and premium content popping off all over the place.
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Giant Bomb #23 | See you Space Cowboy...
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sammyCYBORG
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Why is it in bad taste? It's a personality driven site and everyone has preferences.
Everything in my post is polite, I've just outlined the changes I don't like.
VRodeo and Demo Derby have been great and Game Tapes is super interesting. UPF can be hit and miss. HitDan has been great as well (it's not officially a feature but it might as well be).
Scanlon was a wild ride until they reached V.
Sleeping Lesson
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sammyCYBORG
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Maybe that line isn't "polite" but I also don't think it's being "shitty" to them. I'm just discussing aspects of their personality I don't like on a forum.
Again, it's a personality driven site. You need to be able to have your personality discussed.
Yeah, I don't know what else people are expecting. It's a livestream where they play video games on a video game website. What else could they be doing?
I think its fair to hope that they think more about what kinds of games to bring, or maybe play more random stuff from mailbags like all those weird board games
I know it's kinda the point of the show (hence the Unprofessional in the title) but it just feels so thrown together sometimes.
Remember when Brad couldn't get his game to work and played Agar.io for what felt like the entirety of UPF?
Stuff like that and just the general weak selection of games makes it unappealing to me.
Remember when Brad couldn't get his game to work and played Agar.io for what felt like the entirety of UPF?
Stuff like that and just the general weak selection of games makes it unappealing to me.
sammyCYBORG
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Yeah, it started off really cool, with them playing games they loved on retro consoles, or sitting down and watching a speedrun and discussing all the aspects of it.
Now it feels like they consider it a chore, they nearly always look bored. Any good games they do pick they cut away from as soon as it starts to get interesting.
You could do so many different types of shows, it's a waste that the only premium content we get on a Friday is a stale show.
Sleeping Lesson
Member
I still like UPF and look forward to watching every week. The only times I'm "disappointed" with the show is when they do anything with phones or phone games, including playing Jackbox which has long overstayed its welcome.
I disagree with this. I don't get at all that it "feels like they consider it a chore", that seems more like you're projecting a bit. And by and large I really like UPF. It still seems like one of their most popular shows, both the live version and the archive, so a lot of people obviously still likes it.
LurkerPrime
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TOGS would solve all of Giant Bomb's current woes.
Now to change topics entirely, that Necropolis QL was surprisingly great. Had no idea it was breakneck grimdark/comedy thing on top of a mediocre pile of repetition, but Vinny and Alex managed to make it... an interesting journey nontheless.
Shame that Harebrained Schemes continues to fumble all of the technical aspects of their games. Like, as great as their Shadowrun stuff is, they are a mess mechanically, always feeling very clunky and wrong in the most fundamental of ways. It's really the writing that goes the distance to redeem them.
Now to change topics entirely, that Necropolis QL was surprisingly great. Had no idea it was breakneck grimdark/comedy thing on top of a mediocre pile of repetition, but Vinny and Alex managed to make it... an interesting journey nontheless.
Shame that Harebrained Schemes continues to fumble all of the technical aspects of their games. Like, as great as their Shadowrun stuff is, they are a mess mechanically, always feeling very clunky and wrong in the most fundamental of ways. It's really the writing that goes the distance to redeem them.
Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
I feel like we have the "GB is on the decline" talk every year during the summer drought. Though I have to admit I stopped watching UPF a long time ago unless people here praise it.
I'm still hoping for Blight Club. I get a lot of enjoyment out of watching fun people play bad games, Jeff and Alex in particular.
I'm still hoping for Blight Club. I get a lot of enjoyment out of watching fun people play bad games, Jeff and Alex in particular.
Gozer the Gozerian
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I think it's easy to get that impression looking back but there's always been complaining about the premium content output, justified or not. Particularly with the live shows. Back in those days I think people complained more about Whiskey Media Happy Hour than about UPF nowadays haha. Same with TNT.
Incandenza
Banned
Austin was S-tier. I do agree the lineup feels stale. Sometimes it feels like Jeff/Dan, Brad/Dan, and Vinny/Alex are the only three pairings on the site.
Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
I'm on a train right now, how long is it?
That's cause Drew was scared away by those Horror games and Jason only plays anime fighting games.
sammyCYBORG
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It's because all 3 shows started as a good idea and then lasted for too long and went stale.
Hot Coldman
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I feel like Agent 47 being hired to murder people just because the target can't be fired is a bit fucked up. Like, he is usually killing straight-up villains, right? Usually?
Now he's killing two film stars just because they're being difficult.
Now he's killing two film stars just because they're being difficult.
As I've said many times before I think Giant bombs biggest problem is that they never stick to a schedule. We never know when a new old games show, danswers (which supposedly started season 2 months ago, only never to be heard from again), game tapes, demo derby etc.
I mean sure it's great for the duders, to just do stuff when they want to, but it's a bit frustrating as a fan of the site to never know when or if a show is coming back.
I also wish they'd actually do a show about stuff they get in the mailbags. Like if they got amiga stuff, then they could do a amiga show and try out some of that stuff etc.
It's a bit ironic that usually folks send in stuff to the site to give it a better home, only for it to be stashed away and never used there either.
I mean sure it's great for the duders, to just do stuff when they want to, but it's a bit frustrating as a fan of the site to never know when or if a show is coming back.
I also wish they'd actually do a show about stuff they get in the mailbags. Like if they got amiga stuff, then they could do a amiga show and try out some of that stuff etc.
It's a bit ironic that usually folks send in stuff to the site to give it a better home, only for it to be stashed away and never used there either.
TharpDaddy
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I love UPF. At worst it's a good thing to put up on my second screen, and it sometimes has really high highs. Either way it's a good way to wind down the week with a beer, it's laid back.
Jeff straight up said on the... I think it was that video with Greg Miller? that he doesn't want to stick to a schedule with content. He gave his reasons for why. He likes to have stuff like UPF and Bombcast be scheduled content, but everything else is more free
Jeff straight up said on the... I think it was that video with Greg Miller? that he doesn't want to stick to a schedule with content. He gave his reasons for why. He likes to have stuff like UPF and Bombcast be scheduled content, but everything else is more free
Dude's an assassin.
Honestly di is giving too much info about the contacts these days
sammyCYBORG
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The problem is with stuff being "free" there's less content on a weekly basis than there should be. There's no reason why there can't be a premium video every day, especially with two teams.
I agree with the guy you quoted, SOME form of a schedule would be good.
Concrete Charlie
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I really miss Dave.
Hot Coldman
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right I'm just saying. obviously 47 is kind of messed up either way but ya know, those games always had a "you're the only straight guy in a world of ridiculous arseholes" which I feel this betrays
it's not a dealbreaker by any means
Sleeping Lesson
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Me too. I've long wanted another entry in Dave Fortress. He was great on a couple of Flight Clubs, too!
Scheduling has never really been an issue for me with GB. The only thing I really miss from the WM days is that it felt more random - one morning Vinny and Dave might come in early and we would get a live random pc game; Ryan would buy a big old box of games from ebay and they'd go through them sight unseen; one of the engineers would be on a live show for no real reason, etc.
Given they're no longer an independent company with lots of people around them, it makes sense those things would change.
Aside from that, their content is still great, so I dunno - GB is basically unrivalled on the internet.
Given they're no longer an independent company with lots of people around them, it makes sense those things would change.
Aside from that, their content is still great, so I dunno - GB is basically unrivalled on the internet.
I think at some point IO got fed up trying to shoe horn a dude in a game called 'Hitman' to be morally grey. You're either down with the murder or not.
tryagainlater
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Austin was too good for this site. Also, I feel like Dan has been responsible for some of the best content on the site.
I know this, doesn't mean I can't say that I think it's a bad idea.
They're my OTPs for sure.
Hot Coldman
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That's fair. Whatever satirical edge this Hitman might have lost is more than made up by, like, literally the entire rest of the game, at least.
sammyCYBORG
Member
Forget Dwarf Fortress, him and Vinny need to finish Blade Runner, duder.
See, I think the past few years of the site from the introduction of Dan and Jason through all of Austin's tenure is the best Giant Bomb had ever been. Better than the Ryan Days, much better than the Whiskey days, even better than their time at Gamespot when I grew up watching Ryan, Jeff, and Rich. Things on the GBEast side have obviously slowed down in light of Austin's departure, but that's to be expected. But sometimes I'll go back and watch old Happy Hour's or TNT's and feel glad about the era of Giant Bomb that we're in.
Sleeping Lesson
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Oof, absolutely. I've kinda given up hope on that ever happening though.
pretty much
ThreePiMatt
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Pretty sure Dave said the save file was lost anyway.
Sleeping Lesson
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A fan recreated the save file. Still not going to happen though, unfortunately.
BreezyLimbo
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I wonder if GB has gotten an No Man Sky key yet, apparently some people on Steam have it already
A few weeks ago, Jeff came up with "Pizza the Action" off the top of his head and just said, "it's Brad and the answer is obvious." In between, Dan diagnosed himself through Sean Connery lines from The Rock, Brad stood still after shooting a man for no reason, and we got over an hour of Red Dead Redemption.
In other words, Giant Bomb is still great.
In other words, Giant Bomb is still great.
SatelliteOfLove
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Dave's laidback erudite jank-loving ways are dearly missed.
The Dear Leader
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To sum up the last few pages, Austin leaving and lack of Rorie content has ruined Giant Bomb. So here's another Dan/Jeff QL of some game no one cares about!
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