Glitchesarecool
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Is there a Book Club-gaf? I remember posting in something like it but I can't remember the title. I think Jintor and I were like the only two posting about science books, specifically about the space race.
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Giant Bomb #23 | See you Space Cowboy...
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Incandenza
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There's an Infinite Jest read going on right now in OT.
Twin Tails
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Since there are no video people this week, hope they do upf again.
The inmates running the asylum was so good last time Drew and Jason were both away, I hope they periscope themselves pressing random buttons in the control room again!Since there are no video people this week, hope they do upf again.
Death Metalist
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Since there are no video people this week, hope they do upf again.
I want to see if Jeff still holds his WR for button pressing things for a live show to be ready.
Sleeping Lesson
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Finally saw Dawn of Justice. What a garbage film! I can't even figure out what they were going for, but they missed it.
Glitchesarecool
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They wanted some of the marvel fun bucks and missed why people see marvel films. It's actually really simple. Also Zach Snyder.
Human Trashcan
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It's so bad. I watched the 3 hour ultimate cut and found it a complete mess from a pacing and editing POV, but apparently the original is even worse in that regard, which is hard to believe. It's just so incredibly dull. And don't even get me started on what they did to Batman as a character, jesus.
Piston Hyundai
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Earlier this week I was playing a game on the 360 and it told me I had beaten the score of a friend that died in January.
Sleeping Lesson
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Snyder must have had a killer contract, because otherwise I just don't see why they'd keep letting him churn this shit out.
The version I saw was the 3-hour cut as well. There's just... so much in it, but it all rings hollow. I do admit though that I enjoyed Batman not giving a shit and murdering dudes.
Its a little worse then Civil War and that gets a tounge bath.
you are out of your mind
Glitchesarecool
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Completely undermining the character's own morals and making him really no better than Superman's murderspree that was the whole catalyst for wanting to take down Superman in the first place.
It's actually much cooler of a character where he manages to not murder the entirety of the criminal underworld.
I'll admit that Civil War wasn't the strongest Marvel movie (especially considering the source material) but come on now.
Sleeping Lesson
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Civil War wasn't fantastic (although I did like it), but it makes Batman v Superman look like a high budget student film written by a freshman.
You're totally right, but in a shit film remaining true to those aspects of the character is totally trivial. Wouldn't have made it a better movie.
broncobuster
Banned
Is it too morose or in poor taste to say this recent discussion is making a decent case for drivatars?
Human Trashcan
Banned
I would've been okay with it if it was at all explored, but nothing comes of it. Even after his supposed "redemptive" moment (fucking LOL at that too) he just keeps on killin' dudes like it aint no thang, and he's painted as a big hero in the end even though he's totally awful. It's just one more thing that rings hollow, like it was just done because they thought that'd make it darker and edgier. Snyder has the exact sensibilities of a 15 year old DBZ AMV maker.
Glitchesarecool
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Freedom streams happened the day before the 4th, which is a Sunday this year.
Instead I'll be enjoying all my neighbors launching off their Independence Day Eve fireworks.
BvS is a 6 and Civil War is a 6.5 on a pure filmmaking level. People living outside the nerd bubble that have not stake in this Marvel vs. DC bullshit like them both. People wanted to hate BvS before it came out and it had to be on The Dark Knight level to get decent reviews. If DC put out a movie that was on par with Ant-Man shit would've been put in the same class as Ed Wood films. The marketing and how the press talk about those two movies will one day be case study in how much influence marketing can have on people.
There's a book club every month in it, usually called readgaf or book gaf I think
Human Trashcan
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Alt take: there actually is no grand Marvel vs DC conspiracy outside of a few lunatics and Marvel just makes pretty good movies and BvS is a turd.
But what do I know.
i stand by my previous statement that you are out of your mind.
And I actually like some of Snyders other work.
BvS is pure dog shit.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
All the marvel movies always come across as the most vapid summer blockbusters to me.
broncobuster
Banned
I'd say Star Wars 7 is a better example. Quite like the film, but boy, a month or three there the Star Wars marketing was everywhere. Which makes me think if EA made a good Battlefront, it would've been massive.
Its not a conspiracy, just good vs. bad marketing.
Yeah, I'm not sure about that. Most of my friends aren't in a 'nerd bubble' and I don't think I've ever heard of BvS spoken of positively. Then again, it wasn't spoken of much at all. Boy did that film come and go extremely fast compared to its hype.
Yet oddly enough are often the least vapid blockbusters in these last few years of big budget failures.
How did BvS have bad marketing? that movie made so much money because of marketing. It certainly wasn't word of mouth
Twin Tails
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Salty Catfish
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I think people who say this don't watch enough vapid summer blockbusters. Most Marvel movies aren't completely reinventing the wheel but they're better than 95% of the big-budget shit we've been fed for years and continue to get (The Gods of Egypts and Ben-Hur remakes of the world.
Death Metalist
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Civil War was one of the better ones though for sure because if you thought that was shit then boy, I don't know what you'd think about Thor 2 or Iron Man 2.
As for Snyder, he hasn't done a good thing in years. His best work is that Dawn of the Dead remake, Watchmen, that owl movie and 300(even that not many people like but I do).
BvS could've had no trailers and still made 500 millz
300 is legit. Probably doesn't hold up well, but anyone who watched that on release and didn't enjoy themselves is a liar. A liar!
Yeah, so then how does your argument that the "bad marketing" affected the movie hold any water at all?
When it came out i really liked it.
it is REALLY hard to go back to.
Ill go out on the limb and say i'm probably the only one who doesn't entirely hate Sucker Punch (fuck me I think Steampunk Nazi Robots are cool)
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I mean i don't watch them either because they just look like vapid summer blockbusters.
I somewhat enjoy the few I've watched but there's always a sheen to their production that makes anything but the broad strokes immediately forgettable to me.
Human Trashcan
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I think you're really working backwards from assumptions because this doesn't make sense. Companies don't spend $$$ on marketing because it doesn't work. That movie withered after the first 2 weeks because of word of mouth. Because it's a bad movie.
Because it had a big part in making a movie that should've made a billi not to make a billi and left no big shocks for the public to see. If they've kept Doomsday out of trailers and in the "rumor" section of websites nerds (I mean in a good way) would've lost their shit and hyped this movie to heaven.
I also think this isn't the place for this discussion unless the guys talk about it so I'll stop posting about it in this thread.
Can't wait for demo derby.
Nerd culture is hot, its never been bigger. If your hardcore fans aren't talking in a good way about your movie why would Dick and Jane see it? Fanboys liking Marvel movies is the only reason we have a MCU. The people who are writing reviews and talking about movies are total DC/Marvel fans and they love you, you are set. If they hate you, you won't make as much money.
Salty Catfish
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Yeah, I'll agree that they have a shiny sameness to them, probably just as a result of that well-oiled Disney machine.
Y'all need to see Swiss Army Man. Easily the best movie based around fart/boner jokes that I've ever seen.
The "nerds" are a very small subset of movie goers. Movies don't make billions by appealing to nerds. They make billions when they appeal to everyone
Dude, the last five minutes of that movie had me laughing as hard as I have ever laughed at a movie. Everything about the last part of that movie is so perfect
Piston Hyundai
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Hopefully she's on birth control.
let the record show that I was first to the joke and everyone that follows is a terrible shithead imitator
Gross.
Twin Tails
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Human Trashcan
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y'all need jesus
The awkward bath tub showroom experience.
Salty Catfish
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