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Giant Bomb #24 | In the beginning...
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Empty Space
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I hate the "letter of the law not spirit of the law" and the various derivatives of it he's been using lately more than anything else. I think he said it four times in various different content released last week. At least I've learned to not use the phrase in conversation. It can be difficult to understand Brad's intent when he uses it, I imagine it's the same the few times I've used it.
Forever Changes
Banned
Yea I'm referring to his argument that this does not sway people who want more powerful hardware, and they will still go to PC.
Jeff went from "I'm thinking about switching to Android" to telling Jason "get an iPhone" lol. I've seen that quite a lot of times in people, they change their opinions rapidly when it comes to phones. It's just a stupid phone. Get whatever you want. Too bad phones and tablets have been super boring for a couple of years now. I can't share Brad's enthusiasm anymore. Some apps run smoother, but you end up using the same 5 apps anyway in the end.
Jeff talking about the Pro as if everyone is down with building a PC. Which is a stupid premise to begin with. But the difference in price between a PS4 Pro and a PC kills his argument anyway. His opinion is skewed. Love listening to him but the market doesn't share his views.
Jeff talking about the Pro as if everyone is down with building a PC. Which is a stupid premise to begin with. But the difference in price between a PS4 Pro and a PC kills his argument anyway. His opinion is skewed. Love listening to him but the market doesn't share his views.
That's us (kinda)...
#BombGaff
That's nothing, they misspelled Mixlr something terrible in that second option.
Twin Tails
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Jefflr
Dat Mario Run timed exclusivity.
So this is supposed to result in more content? An extra Jeff stream? What else? It's confusing. Because now they dont go into work on Monday, Tues is now taken up by the podcast.
Start recoding quicklooks on Wed now? Do we expect Brad to start writing a column or something?
brainzelda
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I LOVE that phrase. I used it in casual conversion yesterday in fact. I want to use it more often.
Sleeping Lesson
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I would love more solo streams! Hopefully work-from-home-Mondays facilitates that.
Forever Changes
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But if you're dropping many K's on a TV, why not get a device that can actually play games at that resolution?
he's real big on young jeezy
That reminds me of when people use "nonplussed" in an apparent attempt to sound fancy, and it's impossible to discern the intended meaning from the context.
If you're unimpressed, just say unimpressed. Don't use a word of latin origin that actually means bewildered.
Sure, he's not wrong. But how many people are willing to drop over 2k for a TV and a PC just like that? His argument is basically "if you really care about this stuff then you want the best thing ever and Sony isn't providing that for $400 so why even bother?".
See? That's what I meant a few days ago about GB and Premium stuff.
Tbh I am pretty bad about being objective when it comes to GB. I do thing it's not enough premium content and that they should do more. But it's the only outlet I would ever pay money for (which o do for 3 years now). It's part of video games for me.
Twin Tails
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If it gets down to last second, they can play all of the remaining title quick. One a day or all of them in a day.
All the usual reasons you can read a thousand times in a hundred GAF threads: Exclusives, ease of use, friends, up front price, etc. PC gaming just isn't as attractive an option to the average gamer as it is to a professional videogamesman like Jeff Gertsmann.
The DF guys were pretty impressed with how Pro games looked on good 4K TVs despite the games at the Meeting not running at native 4K.
They should just do the rest of them back to back for extralife. Someone might end up dead by the end!
The real Mario Party Party starts here.
Glitchesarecool
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MassiveNights
Banned
Solo streams would be alright as long as it's not taking time away from proper stuff
Giger Pilot
Banned
Danny trying to get sued
I kind of assumed Monday was the day all those meetings took place, but I guess not?
queue 'what do they doooo' conversation spiral
Danny trying to get sued
14 months later
"he just needs time to settle into the new office"
Danny trying to get sued
Was 15K the International Documentaries goal?
Finally the true story of Too Human can be told.
EdReedFan20
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Now a free Demo Derby was uploaded to YouTube for non-premiums. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amvRG_7YYcM
Twin Tails
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I thought next free would be unprofessional Friday.
tryagainlater
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All these free premium videos are the start of Giant Bomb's transition to being full on youtubers. Why else would they start working from home?
stump sock
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no, they want people to buy premium
brainzelda
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This is exactly why it stuns me that they picked SF and NY as the places to work, the two most expensive places to live in the US (yes I know they work at the CBS offices).
For the content they produce, they could literally do what they do from anywhere else in the country.
dannyglover
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They've recorded quicklooks after the bombcast. I remember Dan recorded 2 QLs after recording the bombcast, then had an AMA on reddit.
I kind of followed Jeff's thinking that someone bought a PS4 at launch. But halfway through that console's life, the PS4 graphics can't match the PC, so people spend $300-$400 on a graphics card for the PC and will end up buying PC games instead of PS4 games.
Sony now has an option where people can spend $400 on a PS4 Pro and stick to buying PS4 games. However, Jeff's reasoning is that the upgrade to PS4 Pro just isn't worth it when you already have a PS4, since the graphical upgrades aren't worth the $400.
I'm thinking that if you can pull a Dan and can sell the original PS4 for $200-$250, it might be worth it. Also, just buying a graphics card might not help if you end up needing to buy a new motherboard/CPU and new monitor for freesync/gsync (I was in this boat last year). Shit ended up being much more expensive than what I thought was just buying a new graphics card.
wild_fire987
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Here's my "bold" prediction:
I think that GB is trying to hire multiple new people in the near future. I base this on the fact that I can't remember the last time a premium sale was mentioned so many times and haven't really seen them make past stuff free. I think they're trying to boost their numbers so they can go to Les Moonves and say "Look, we can afford multiple new hires."
I also say this because Vinny recently mentioned wanting to foster the "new generation" of GB. I just think the guys have some goals in mind and they need to sell more premium memberships to justify them.
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I think that GB is trying to hire multiple new people in the near future. I base this on the fact that I can't remember the last time a premium sale was mentioned so many times and haven't really seen them make past stuff free. I think they're trying to boost their numbers so they can go to Les Moonves and say "Look, we can afford multiple new hires."
I also say this because Vinny recently mentioned wanting to foster the "new generation" of GB. I just think the guys have some goals in mind and they need to sell more premium memberships to justify them.
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Of course there's logic to his argument. Heck, I built my first PC after the PS4 and Xbox One reveals being underwhelming. And the current PS4 hardware is already old and not every developer can pull off Uncharted 4. So it makes sense. It's a bummer that the hardware isn't THAT much better but it's "just" 400 and it comes out this November. This is what will make the Pro a success. I get Jeff's argument that this isn't enough for the max. enthusiast consumer out there but those guys are CGINO (console gamers in name only ... lol, I'm coining this right now) anyway.
Twin Tails
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They should get an extra video dude for east
MassiveNights
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There seems to be a regular assumption that all people need to do is buy a graphics card.
PCs are alien, ugly things that I have no space for and that even if I did would require a 3 week negotiation with my better half.
It would be years ago that I last owned a tower.
I don't care about being at the bleeding edge but a dedicated gaming console that runs games well is still totally the thing I want. Unfortunately the Pro seems a bit half baked and the PS4/Xbox One are underpowered. There's a middle ground between "cares about power" and "uses it for DVDs" that isn't being catered for that well right now.
The two companies seemed way too scared to put out something decent this gen for fear the console market was over.
PCs are alien, ugly things that I have no space for and that even if I did would require a 3 week negotiation with my better half.
It would be years ago that I last owned a tower.
I don't care about being at the bleeding edge but a dedicated gaming console that runs games well is still totally the thing I want. Unfortunately the Pro seems a bit half baked and the PS4/Xbox One are underpowered. There's a middle ground between "cares about power" and "uses it for DVDs" that isn't being catered for that well right now.
The two companies seemed way too scared to put out something decent this gen for fear the console market was over.
GuyKazama
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They have the equipment, experience, talent, access, and staff to produce long-form Danny-quality investigative videos. There's enough of them to continue to produce QLs as well.
Instead, they seem to be moving to their view of the typical youtuber, which is reacting to a video game in their living room with the lights off. That or random poorly-planned livestreams.
I think this is a dated view of youtubers -- Game Grumps, Game Sack, Gaming Historian, and many others created well-produced videos on a regular basis. It is also a waste of their resources. If nothing else, it would be nice to see them follow through on a feature for once at a regular pace. I'd subscribe again if I believed for a second they will complete SOTN in the calendar year.
Instead, they seem to be moving to their view of the typical youtuber, which is reacting to a video game in their living room with the lights off. That or random poorly-planned livestreams.
I think this is a dated view of youtubers -- Game Grumps, Game Sack, Gaming Historian, and many others created well-produced videos on a regular basis. It is also a waste of their resources. If nothing else, it would be nice to see them follow through on a feature for once at a regular pace. I'd subscribe again if I believed for a second they will complete SOTN in the calendar year.
I've had similar thoughts but having it all laid out like this makes GB's situation seem down right dire (btw I met Norm of Gaming Historian just this past weekend and got a live preview of his next episode, great guy!)
wild_fire987
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Yeah, from my personal experience it's more about convenience than price. I play PC games a majority of the time, but my wife, best friends, and my brother play on consoles. One of their main reasons is that they can literally hit 1 button and be playing the game. I know that Steam and automatic driver downloads make everything simple, but it's still more complicated than putting the disc in and it working, period. Also me and my friends play multiplayer games on consoles because we're getting older and we're too slow on M/KB to be competitive, but we can hold our own when everyone is using a controller. Plus being able to sit back on a couch is a MAJOR plus after a day of work/raising kids.
I have zero interest in investigative GB content. GB to me is entertainment. As far as investigative video game journalism goes (which isn't far at all, it's quite narrow since this is an entertainment media we're talking about) I don't see GB in that mold. Sure, landing a couple of scoops is terrific for their traffic and could lead to more subs but that's just a by-product of having terrific relations to developers and other sources.
Also don't forget that QL are older than your current genre of Let's Plays and YouTube gameplay videos. Being unprofessional has always been GB's shtick. It's just that nowadays unprofessional media pushes professional media out of the Zeitgeist. The landscape has drastically changed around them but GB has always been this way.
I don't think any of them want to do long form Danny-quality investigative videos
Also how do i access the survey? i accidentally clicked past it earlier
I've seen them and still hate them. sooo
stump sock
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Filled out the survey.
I totally get that it's unlikely that they'll ever have a set schedule like "Demo derby every second tuesday" or something, but I think it would make a lot of people happy if they could just commit to something semi-concrete like "1 demo derby, 1 game tapes, one TOGS/RoF, etc" per month. we're at a point where no premium content but UPF is a promise.
I totally get that it's unlikely that they'll ever have a set schedule like "Demo derby every second tuesday" or something, but I think it would make a lot of people happy if they could just commit to something semi-concrete like "1 demo derby, 1 game tapes, one TOGS/RoF, etc" per month. we're at a point where no premium content but UPF is a promise.
GuyKazama
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The last time we got a well-edited video series that wasn't a skit was probably e3 2013. Compare that to their regular output, and it shows how far a little more effort can go.
Because it's like 27 hours long and fantasy who wants that