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[Hindl]

I think a couple of the previews I've watched indicated they finished the game. Certainly they haven't 100% the game, but

Spoiler

the design allows you to "beat" it, shall we say... very early?

I haven't caught back up, but he certainly has started to understand the aged design of Ocarina. So many things that seem obvious to someone who played it back then, but the game really doesn't hold your hand as far as telling you what to do.



I thought so too! Nothing amazing, but I'm happy to have my little part.

Oh yeah, I'm not sure that's a spoiler, Nintendo themselves said that at E3. But just in case anyone here is in blackout mode

Spoiler

yeah I think Schreier said it took him 5 hours to reach Hyrule Castle. It's a lot shorter than that, but that time involved avoiding enemies and sneaking through obstacles. But yeah I haven't read all previews, so it's possible some people beelined it

 

[AuthenticM]

It's only February and I'm already looking forward to the end of the year, hahaha.

 

[justjim89]

Dan's narc nature has a good point. People get killed street racing.

 

[HappenstanceUK]

Dan must be terrible to watch movies with. So many dumb questions that would be answered if he just carried on watching the movie.

 

[Kenzodielocke]

Why no UPF today?

 

[Johnny Ryall]

Dan must be terrible to watch movies with. So many dumb questions that would be answered if he just carried on watching the movie.

In fairness it's an audio feature, should they sit silently for 90 minutes?

 

[hamchan]

How do I hold all this content GBEast?

 

[HappenstanceUK]

In fairness it's an audio feature, should they sit silently for 90 minutes?

Yes....yes they should

 

[EdReedFan20]

Why no UPF today?

Maybe they're doing a pre-GDC free stream. A bunch of video game industry friends are already in town, especially Lang and Boyes.

 

[OdysseusVA]

How do I hold all this content GBEast?

a lot of free space for storage at gbwest

 

[Twin Tails]

Why no UPF today?

Its on the schedule

 

[Sleeping Lesson]

Oh yeah, I'm not sure that's a spoiler, Nintendo themselves said that at E3. But just in case anyone here is in blackout mode

Spoiler

yeah I think Schreier said it took him 5 hours to reach Hyrule Castle. It's a lot shorter than that, but that time involved avoiding enemies and sneaking through obstacles. But yeah I haven't read all previews, so it's possible some people beelined it

Ah, I didn't realize that info was out there. I'll bet most of them want to put a lot more time into the game before they formally review it, since the through line of all the previews is "there is so much stuff to do."

 

[Par Score]

What happened to Blue Bomin' ?

Edit: Oh, it started, it's just not showing on the front page. Great.

 

[OdysseusVA]

This is some high bitrate goodness

 

[Sleeping Lesson]

Lol them pretending to only be talking about "the first five hours" of Zelda is silly. Nintendo is so weird.

 

[Hindl]

Lol them pretending to only be talking about "the first five hours" of Zelda is silly. Nintendo is so weird.

Someone in another thread summed up my thoughts with Nintendo perfectly. It's so frustrating being a fan of theirs because half the time they deliver some of the absolute best gaming experiences I've ever had and they have a level of polish and quality that's top tier, but the other half of the time they are making such absolutely boneheaded decisions/designs and shooting themselves in the foot that you're almost baffled it's all the same company

 

[giant_frying_pan]

Fast and the Fortiest.

 

[Xater]

In fairness it's an audio feature, should they sit silently for 90 minutes?

Nope, but those are still dumb questions.

 

[TraBuch]

How crazy is it that a game developed by Guerrilla Games is even being mentioned in the same breath as a new Zelda game?

 

[robotrock]

How crazy is it that a game developed by Guerrilla Games is even being mentioned in the same breath as a new Zelda game?

Says more about Zelda's recent years than it does about Guerrilla

 

[TraBuch]

Says more about Zelda's recent years than it does about Guerrilla

Disagree.

 

[Peru]

Says more about Zelda's recent years than it does about Guerrilla

Not really, Guerilla's made leaps and bounds.

In the end the two games really aren't all that similar though.

 

[OdysseusVA]

Horizon will have a higher score than Zelda

 

[RepairmanJack]

I am so ready for more Fast and Forties.

 

[Hindl]

Horizon will have a higher score than Zelda

On GB specifically or in general?

 

[oti]

How crazy is it that a game developed by Guerrilla Games is even being mentioned in the same breath as a new Zelda game?

They come out in the same week, they are both open world games, both feature bow and arrow combat and both seem to be great games.

I'm so glad Guerilla got the freedom to do something new. Nobody needs another Killzone.

 

[OdysseusVA]

On GB specifically or in general?

In general

And GB

 

[Sleeping Lesson]

They come out in the same week, they are both open world games, both feature bow and arrow combat and both seem to be great games.

I'm so glad Guerilla got the freedom to do something new. Nobody needs another Killzone.

And you can fuck robots in both, I think. I may be speculating.

 

[Hindl]

In general

And GB

Well Zelda can't beat Horizon, but it can match it for GB. As for in general, Horizon hasn't even cleared Skyward Sword on Metacritic

 

[RepairmanJack]

I have a feeling Dan and Vinny are really going to like 2F2F.

 

[robotrock]

Not really, Guerilla's made leaps and bounds.

In the end the two games really aren't all that similar though.

yeah definitely not trying to discredit that. tons of respect for their come up.

 

[LiK]

i'm just happy Guerilla decided to branch off to do something different. Killzone got stale after a while.

 

[Sleeping Lesson]

Horizon hasn't even cleared Skyward Sword on Metacritic

Whoa, that's crazy. It's interesting how aggregate review scores can differ so significantly from the general consensus years later. Even odder to hear reviewers disparage games that they'd given very high scores to (see: Jeff Gerstmann).

 

[Catvoca]

Whoa, that's crazy. It's interesting how aggregate review scores can differ so significantly from the general consensus years later. Even odder to hear reviewers disparage games that they'd given very high scores to (see: Jeff Gerstmann).

The crazy thing is how people get mad at outlier scores and then later complain that critics overrated a game 🤔

 

[Sleeping Lesson]

The crazy thing is how people get mad at outlier scores and then later complain that critics overrated a game 🤔

Yep. I really like reading outlier reviews. They so often tap into something that people only later realize was a huge flaw in a game.

 

[RepairmanJack]

Oh shit, Vinny with the Goku comment on the music in F&F was so good.

 

[robotrock]

Whoa, that's crazy. It's interesting how aggregate review scores can differ so significantly from the general consensus years later. Even odder to hear reviewers disparage games that they'd given very high scores to (see: Jeff Gerstmann).

Some of that stuff makes sense because of the way Gamespot assigned scores. I think Jeff once mentioned that he never actually thought Majora's Mask was an 8.3/10 game

 

[hamchan]

Zelda always gets high scores even if the games are a total bore like Skyward Sword.

 

[Hindl]

Whoa, that's crazy. It's interesting how aggregate review scores can differ so significantly from the general consensus years later. Even odder to hear reviewers disparage games that they'd given very high scores to (see: Jeff Gerstmann).

To be fair, Skyward Sword is crazy overrated on metacritic. It's a 93. I really like SS, but I don't think it should be that high. It has some serious highs (dungeons, music, story moments), but it has a lot of flaws too. I remember a lot of articles when it came out putting it right next to Ocarina and LTTP. So it's why these previews are exciting but I am still trying to temper expectations

 

[brainzelda]

TORETTO. Swat came into my house. Disrespected my whole family. Somebody narced me out. AND I THINK IT WAS YOU.


What a movie.

 

[RepairmanJack]

TORETTO. Swat came into my house. Disrespected my whole family. Somebody narced me out. AND I THINK IT WAS YOU.


What a movie.

I NEVER NARCED ON NOBODY!

 

[LiK]

i never watched Film & 40s. is it just a camera on them watching the movie?

 

[RepairmanJack]

i never watched Film & 40s. is it just a camera on them watching the movie?

Just a podcast you sync with the movie. If you know the movie well enough, or just don't care, you can listen without and it works fine.

 

[Hindl]

i never watched Film & 40s. is it just a camera on them watching the movie?

It's a podcast, no video

 

[LiK]

Just a podcast you sync with the movie. If you know the movie well enough, or just don't care, you can listen without and it works fine.

It's a podcast, no video

ah ok, audio commentary. thanks

 

[Ashby]

Peter Brown just came out in favor of BOTW in the Horizon v. BOTW debate on a livestream.

 

[OdysseusVA]

Well Zelda can't beat Horizon, but it can match it for GB. As for in general, Horizon hasn't even cleared Skyward Sword on Metacritic

They could always tack on another star if they feel that strongly about it, and it doesn't need to beat Skyward Sword

Gamespot just came out for BOTW in the Horizon v. BOTW debate on a livestream.

Its Gamespot tho

 

[RepairmanJack]

Dan being so damn goody goody in this Film and Forties is absolutely hilarious.

"Wait, Vin is a bad guy?!"

 

[mnz]

Peter Brown just came out in favor of BOTW in the Horizon v. BOTW debate on a livestream.

He likes old games. Which one of those is older?

Wait, that makes no sense. It's late.

 

[Hot Coldman]

Peter Brown just came out in favor of BOTW in the Horizon v. BOTW debate on a livestream.

What livestream?