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They could've been in costume and everything.
SteveWinwood
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What I don't understand is why the "average" gamer keeps getting brought up. No one is saying that all this stuff will have an immediate sales impact or wreck Microsoft (right away at least) so gives a fuck about Joe Gamer. It's as helpful as saying "No one cares" on a message board of game enthusiasts who do clearly care. Also why it's being discussed in a thread about a website that also mostly appeals to enthusiasts more than "casuals" anyhow (No one I know would watch an hour long stream of windjammers).
funkystudent
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Seems weird that corners of the games press are trying to downplay it. Especially tech assholes like Brad who always seemed to love quoted Digital Foundry about the minor differences between versions though out this gen.
If the difference was 900-1080 I could buy the "ehhh.... its only a few pixels" argument. But it isnt.
The difference between 1080 and 720 is pretty simple for average people to see and understand, Its been hammered into them by TV makers, youtube, phone makers, netflix etc..... the last 5+ years.
And the gap is already bigger then any multiplat game on ps3/360. (unless there is some ps3 game running in 400p I am forgetting). I can see why glossing over it just seems fishy to a lot of people. Doubly so when you also seem to think not being able to DLNA files is something worth talking about.
If the difference was 900-1080 I could buy the "ehhh.... its only a few pixels" argument. But it isnt.
The difference between 1080 and 720 is pretty simple for average people to see and understand, Its been hammered into them by TV makers, youtube, phone makers, netflix etc..... the last 5+ years.
And the gap is already bigger then any multiplat game on ps3/360. (unless there is some ps3 game running in 400p I am forgetting). I can see why glossing over it just seems fishy to a lot of people. Doubly so when you also seem to think not being able to DLNA files is something worth talking about.
I don't understand why Patrick bothers to reply to some of the more aggressively awful questions. It seems like the best course of action is to just ignore people like that.
I was talking about the first line of his post: "They'll have a stream for both consoles and I'm sure will comment on differences."
Damn I feel kind of bad for starting this whole thing now.
Exactly the same feeling I had with the Persona 4 Endurance Run.
How upset are you about no diretide Brad? That could have added some much needed DotA stream variation!
You left out one of my qualifiers- "minor" news.
Which story you find to be more important is your opinion, and you're free to feel that. But keep in mind that a lot of people don't have stable broadband connections and are buying a PS4 over an Xbox for that very reason. Naturally, they'd want to know what expected features (if any) will not be available on their out-of-the-box PS4.
It's new information compared to say, a confirmation of resolution differences that were already largely suspected and discussed on the giant bomcast and morning shows.
Well, alright then, that makes total sense. I am definitely looking forward to the streams next month.
SuperSonic1305
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It's not even just resolution. BF4 has a more stable framerate, anti-aliasing, ambient occlusion, and some other effects that the X1 version doesn't. All of that while STILL outputting at over twice the resolution. THAT is the problem. The 360 built it's reputation as the multiplatform console of choice early on and held on to that the entire generation outside of a few dozen titles like Saint's Row 3, GTA5, etc. That was with a much smaller difference in hardware than this time around. The idea that developers will sprinkle fairy dust and suddenly get games identical is delusion.
Fotheringay
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Unfortunately people seem to view any criticism on this matter as jumping straight into hyperbolic "M$ MONEYHATTING". GB covers what they want, when they want. It's useful for them as a smaller site as a way to differentiate themselves from every other press release regurgitating outfit. However, when you all but ignore the biggest topic amongst the enthusiast crowd by saying "lol mainstream won't care" and then put out a simple laundry list FAQ for the PS4 and criticize DLNA features, you can't dismiss any eyebrow raising as pathetic internet sniping.
Felix Lighter
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The HDCP during gameplay horseshit has been addressed right? They're going to be able stream content from these boxes for the launch day streams, right? It's the one thing I'm still personally really looking forward to when it comes to launch of next gen.
PS4 patch for that is coming down the road. They'll need something to bypass HDCP.
darkressurection
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Even if the consoles do have HDCP on them, getting a device that allows you to bypass that protection isn't too hard.
SteveWinwood
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I really hope they just stick the go pro in front of the tv and stream it that way.
Felix Lighter
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I know they can strip it. My concern is whether or not an HDCP stripper is something they'll be prohibited to use by CBSi.
Llamaskin breeches +1 all attributes in DotA 2.
Backfoggen
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darkressurection
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I would hope that using one to capture specifically gameplay wouldn't be an issue, but I have no idea what the legalities of a HDCP stripper are in general.
Even if it is, I think it'll be more one of those deals where you don't really disclose how you're ripping your video. CBSi would probably frown on Jeff's modded Vita that has video out, but...hey, you have a site to run, get your stuff however you can.
And as far as I know, the HDCP stuff still hasn't been addressed by either side outside of "yeah, we'll do something about it. Eventually. But STREAMING!!!"
Well, because the game seems to be broken, let's preface.
yeehamuffins
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Damn! Was hoping for a new chapter in the epic Time Rock/Ghost Problems saga.
Yukes killing it as usual.
There is a new addition to Ghost Problems up there I believe, but it is completely unauthorised by the original author.
There was supposed to be a major patch last year too. It either never came or fixed nothing.
BlastProcessing
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Capturing gameplay is protected by fair use, but subverting copy protection is a violation of the DMCA. Funny how the big content companies (CBS very much included) stumbled on to that loophole. Must be a crazy coincidence.
So we are in a situation where pointing a camera at a tv playing a PS4 is perfectly legal but capturing a feed from it's HDCP protected HDMI is emphatically illegal.
The smaller guys will be able to do this without repercussion, but I could see CBS saying no. After all, it wouldn't be the first time that CBS has allowed its corporate intellectual property policies to dictate coverage by one of its websites.
CrunchinJelly
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Vinny: "I wish dogs could consent."
EmCeeGramr
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Ghost Problems fanfic.
That being said, I think this is a particularly special case and CBSi would gain nothing from being the owner of major "journalistic" websites that are unable to do their jobs because of legal rhetoric that is similar to tearing the tags off your mattress.
Also DMCA is the dumbest shit ever.
There wasn't really a publisher to finance it after the first months. I think 2K has different priorities.
Saw that as well. Apparently it's because of the well known THQuality.
Have people developed a new term for that by now? I mean THQ is obviously no more around.
darkressurection
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I've seen 2Kuality thrown around here and there.
"Yukes"
BlastProcessing
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I would have thought that before the whole Hopper thing.
The DMCA is really really stupid, it's also something that CBS fought for.
Kazuma Kiryu
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Brad killin' it!
i'm mad as hell and i'm not gonna take this anymore
Whenever I see that picture it always reminds me of John Lennon.
NameGenerated
Who paid you to grab Dr. Pavel?
And there wasn't a shot fired, excluding the tanks, until over 30 minutes in.
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