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Giant Bomb #9 | More Dan Meets The Eye

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Tucah

you speak so well
edit: you guys can complain all you want about how "bad" mgs' controls are, but god damn most of the issues are because of drew's seemingly TOTAL lack of pattern recognition and insistence on mashing buttons instead of just pressing them once or twice
that segment where grey fox disappears and warps behind you near the end of the fight was fucking driving me crazy lol. drew: "what did i do wrong?!"

Yep. The controls clearly aren't perfect but Drew's frustration definitely comes, at least in part, from the way he's playing the game and not just the controls.
 

mattp

Member
I was going to say I don't think Drew plays a lot of games with reflex-sensitive situations, but then I remembered he's a huge Halo fan, so I don't know.

I feel like sometimes they do ham up things for podcasts and videos.

im starting to think his issue is he's not "playing it right"
let me explain heh

something like halo, yup very reflex intensive, but it also has fairly good AI. enemies are unpredictable
MGS on the other hand is EXTREMELY gamey. there are simple and solid fucking rules to everything. every enemy has a cone of vision. there's no unpredictable AI there. you're either in the cone or not. same goes for everyone's patterns. he seems to just not realize everything has super simple patterns and he's not recognizing any of them. especially in the case of these boss fights
or even simple stuff like noticing that after you hit an enemy they blink for 2 seconds before you can hit them again
he's coming at the game like it's something more modern, and making it more complicated than it is
 

hamchan

Member
finally watching the rest of mgs part 4
god dammit drew this grey fox section is killing me lol

edit: you guys can complain all you want about how "bad" mgs' controls are, but god damn most of the issues are because of drew's seemingly TOTAL lack of pattern recognition and insistence on mashing buttons instead of just pressing them once or twice
that segment where grey fox disappears and warps behind you near the end of the fight was fucking driving me crazy lol. drew: "what did i do wrong?!"

Oh man, you're gonna love future episodes of this series.
 

Nishastra

Banned
Yeah, Drew always fires 20 bullets where 1 would have the same effect, runs away when he's safe, rushes forwards when he's not... At least it's entertaining :p
 

mattp

Member
oh yeah, i mean its frustrating but in a fun way haha
thiis so so great
it also helps that i know mgs in and out, the way dan does. his reactions are basically mine
 

Antiwhippy

the holder of the trombone
I was going to say I don't think Drew plays a lot of games with reflex-sensitive situations, but then I remembered he's a huge Halo fan, so I don't know.

I feel like sometimes they do ham up things for podcasts and videos.

I think he can react with his reflex just fine, it's just that he's very bad at spotting patterns.

If you look at the grey fox video in particular he can't seem to tell when an attack animation ends or even realise the fact that there are invincibility frames.
 

daydream

Banned
something like halo, yup very reflex intensive, but it also has fairly good AI. enemies are unpredictable
MGS on the other hand is EXTREMELY gamey. there are simple and solid fucking rules to everything. every enemy has a cone of vision. there's no unpredictable AI there. you're either in the cone or not. same goes for everyone's patterns. he seems to just not realize everything has super simple patterns and he's not recognizing any of them. especially in the case of these boss fights
or even simple stuff like noticing that after you hit an enemy they blink for 2 seconds before you can hit them again
he's coming at the game like it's something more modern, and making it more complicated than it is

I think you're on the money.
 

Lanark

Member
Hey guys, I'm a longtime Giantbomb fan, but only became a premium subscriber a couple of days ago. What is some good older premium content? I'm watching the Metal Drew Scanlon series now, which is great, but there's so much archived material, I don't know where to start.
 

Antiwhippy

the holder of the trombone
Hey guys, I'm a longtime Giantbomb fan, but only became a premium subscriber a couple of days ago. What is some good older premium content? I'm watching the Metal Drew Scanlon series now, which is great, but there's so much archived material, I don't know where to start.

Braking brad doom 2 and volgarr.

Flight club.

Backflippin' through bioforge.

Random PC game.
 

Xeteh

Member
Hey guys, I'm a longtime Giantbomb fan, but only became a premium subscriber a couple of days ago. What is some good older premium content? I'm watching the Metal Drew Scanlon series now, which is great, but there's so much archived material, I don't know where to start.

There's a small list in an image in the OP with some great stuff. Even though it isn't gaming related the video they did when Drew came back from North Korea is absolutely amazing.
 
Hey guys, I'm a longtime Giantbomb fan, but only became a premium subscriber a couple of days ago. What is some good older premium content? I'm watching the Metal Drew Scanlon series now, which is great, but there's so much archived material, I don't know where to start.

Definitely the Breaking Brads. Also Load our Last Souls, Spookin' with Scoops, Mario Party Party and VinnyVania.
 

Khezu

Member
I doubt Drew even knows what an invincibility frame even is.

I think Dan needs to start explaining basic video game concepts to him.
 

Bacon

Member
Hey guys, I'm a longtime Giantbomb fan, but only became a premium subscriber a couple of days ago. What is some good older premium content? I'm watching the Metal Drew Scanlon series now, which is great, but there's so much archived material, I don't know where to start.

Random PC Game: phantasmagoria is my all time favorite content.

Drew goes to North Korea is really interesting stuff.

Search google for the unprofessional Friday featuring Lego island. You may be able to search that game on the site and it might be linked to the upf.

Definitely catch up on the ongoing metal gear scanlon, great stuff.
 

Tucah

you speak so well
Hey guys, I'm a longtime Giantbomb fan, but only became a premium subscriber a couple of days ago. What is some good older premium content? I'm watching the Metal Drew Scanlon series now, which is great, but there's so much archived material, I don't know where to start.

Random PC Game, make Phantasmagoria a priority (usually Vinny and Dave)
Drew's trip to North Korea (the whole crew)
Bioforge - make sure to check out the Unprofessional Fridays where it starts first, should be linked on the game page (Vinny, Danny O'Dwyer and Patrick)
Flight Club (Drew, Dave, Vinny)
Mario Party Party (Dan, Jeff, Brad, Drew)
Breaking Brad - Volgarr is probably the best of BB (Vinny, Rorie, Brad, maybe Alexis IIRC)
The Dark Souls streams (Vinny, Rorie, Ian) and Demon's Souls (Brad/Vinny) if you like those games
 

Zaph

Member
If they space MGS eps apart like that Drew will never get into the MGS groove.
Yeah, it's a combination of:
'Unnatural' pace of play sessions
Playing a game way outside your wheelhouse
Dated controls and gameplay mechanics
Knowing you're being watched by the internet and having to play first thing in the morning

It's fine and makes it even funnier with Dan's reactions. I just hope he can stick with it for the full series. It may not be called an Endurance Run, but it may be the first real endurance run.
 
I'm watching about 15-20 minutes of Metal Gear Scanlon by skipping due to Dan's unappreciated praise of the game during Drew's most fatigued moments, Drew's overall negativity about the game, Dan's lack of knowledge about this game he keeps saying is so amazing, and an overall lack of interesting commentary going on because it's dominated by Drew being frustrated and Dan hamfistedly trying to compensate for the audience by being overly positive.
 

Bacon

Member
I'm watching about 15-20 minutes of Metal Gear Scanlon by skipping due to Dan's unappreciated praise of the game during Drew's most fatigued moments, Drew's overall negativity about the game, Dan's lack of knowledge about this game he keeps saying is so amazing, and an overall lack of interesting commentary going on because it's dominated by Drew being frustrated and Dan hamfistedly trying to compensate for the audience by being overly positive.

I think you might be misinterpreting dan. He is really enthusiastic about the stuff he likes.
 

~Kinggi~

Banned
Man im watching UF and what a revolutionary new addition to the team that fridge is i love it so we just need some fancy lights in there and shit and maybe some sexy pinups on the side of the walls and stuffs for the times.
 

Tucah

you speak so well
Man im watching UF and what a revolutionary new addition to the team that fridge is i love it so we just need some fancy lights in there and shit and maybe some sexy pinups on the side of the walls and stuffs for the times.

Fridge is the GB guy I most want to be my dad.
 

He would be a terrible dad. I mean, for starters, he'd never able to look you in the eye, as if he were ashamed of something. Then he would skulk about whenever your back is turned. There's just nothing to suggest he would be any good at it whatsoever.

There would be no trust, no love, and no respect... I honestly don't know why you'd even suggest it.
 

Tucah

you speak so well
Sorry if was already said, but where is Vinny? Is he not doing podcast anymore?

He moved to the east coast, he now works in NY doing video content with Alex, not going to be on the podcast anymore. He just had another kid though so he's on a break for a little while.
 
What? No love for dad?

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justjim89

Member
The people cringing over Dan's treatment of the Scotch is silly. Even the best alcohol tastes like shit compared to soda or juice. Might as well mix it with something tasty. If you have to leave something warm or let it get watered down first or whatever it's probably no worth drinking in the first place. Similar to my philosophy on coffee. Anything you have to add that much shit to is probably just gross.
 

Zaph

Member
The people cringing over Dan's treatment of the Scotch is silly. Even the best alcohol tastes like shit compared to soda or juice. Might as well mix it with something tasty. If you have to leave something warm or let it get watered down first or whatever it's probably no worth drinking in the first place. Similar to my philosophy on coffee. Anything you have to add that much shit to is probably just gross.
This has to be a troll.
 
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