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Giant Bomb @ E3 2016 | WEED3
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I'm 100% with GB on the quality of that conference. The VR section destroyed the flow to present a bunch of low-quality or non-existent "experiences", and they ended on an extended demo of an uninspired zombie game. Horizon remains the best get at the entire show, and God of War was a pleasant surprise, but everything was downhill after that.
Thanks! Says it was posted 5 hours ago but looks like it just went up recently or was hidden? Weird, I didn't see it when I searched 45 minutes ago.
therealminime
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The fucking no show, "here's a behind the scenes of Mass Effect" again killed all excitement I had going into E3 honestly. I'm so bummed we didn't learn more.
HotHamWater
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EA, IIRC.
EmCeeGramr
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I thought Sony's E3 last year was boring back then, and totally understood why the duders were down on it.
This year I'm discovering that "show and announce a lot of games" isn't the point of E3 presentations as I assumed was universally agreed upon my whole life, but it's about executives being celebrities and "using the stage" and boring state of the platform speeches and padding it out with the specific info that's best reserved for the showfloor demos and post-conference press releases and interviews, which is a completely alien idea to me.
As someone who doesn't own a PS4 yet that conference didn't help sell me on one. VR looks horrible, I feel like all those games should just come on one demo disc in the box with the PSVR. God of War looked okay and so did Horizon. I'll wait to see what becomes of Kojima's thing. Crash was never good.
I feel like Microsoft's was better because looks like most of those games will come to PC and I'll be able to play with my friends on Xbox Live for some of them too. Scorpio seems like it would be better to wait for than the Neo too.
I feel like Microsoft's was better because looks like most of those games will come to PC and I'll be able to play with my friends on Xbox Live for some of them too. Scorpio seems like it would be better to wait for than the Neo too.
Death Metalist
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Pretty much.
I agree. I think this thread is insane. I imagine most people are parroting what the Giant Bomb crew said?
I dunno, haven't watched their reactions yet.
Glitchesarecool
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leave
Zen_Arcade
Banned
Who said they wanted this?
Salty Catfish
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From Norman Reedus' instagram:
broncobuster
Banned
Can't recall any of their games. At all. There was weed, that I know.
Sleeping Lesson
Member
Emcee I know you ain't doing us raw like that!
Ah, this ol' yarn. Nobody can agree with them, they have to be parroting.
Ah, this ol' yarn. Nobody can agree with them, they have to be parroting.
Gross.
EmCeeGramr
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I've seen that sentiment repeated in here and on the stream.
Dragon Puncher
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Don't get me wrong, GB makes the EA conferences the best every year. But they're also the god damn worst every year.
You're welcome, it's linked below the upcoming content alongside the other press conferences.
funkystudent
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Crash Team Racing is a amazing game and I would rather see a remake of that then the actual platformers.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Man someone post in here when the re7 demo comes up. other thread is a clusterfuck.
Oh yea I agree it was terrible, but they made it entertaining.
Yes, those who disagree with you are 100% parroting opinions and are in no way putting effort into making posts which explain their thoughts.
bigwinnerx
Member
George Carlin said:
I like watching the conferences with them adding their MST3k bits of realism, but, the true fun is the next 3 nights after they get their hands on things and talk to others about their experiences. Otherwise after these two days, it's just who had the prettiest bullshit.
"If only Kojima went out and explained his game a bit!"
They could have given him an hour up there and we'd be even more confused than we were after the trailer.
I understand GB but it is incredibly baffling what they wanted out of this show. I am at a complete loss honestly.
littlegrasshopper
Member
I dont see it. Can someone explain or clearly show me this lol ENHANCE
Intheflorsh
Banned
They're releasing a $400 VR headset and said fuck all about it, they absolutely should have spent more time talking about it. Lots of people watch the streams and pay no attention to articles about what happens on the show floor, they wasted a good opportunity to describe what it is they're selling and why it's worth the price of a console.
SwordStruck
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Really did not like that showing from Sony. God of War and Horizon looked great, and it was amazing to see Kojima on stage, but outside of that it wasn't that great. They also seem to have no interest in getting people interested in PSVR, which is pretty alarming for a product launching in 4 months. That and ending the show with an uninspired looking zombie game. The whole conference just seemed very bizarre.
Sleeping Lesson
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He said it right there, he "imagines". Lot of imagining going on in here this evening!
Ghostmaster
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Tbf, that's what a lot of people want they just don't know it or want to admit it, I remember how psyched people were about Jack Treton? (sony's previous CEO and host) and his sale pitches and energy while he was doing E3 even when there were not a lot of games to back him up. People love a good sales pitch even though they hate to admit it. The problem with most conferences is that the salesmen suck, if every game had a dude like the For Honor guy hyping it most people would be fine with it.
Vire
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Haha, I feel like I'm in bizzaro world. We need more pie charts, graphs and sales numbers damnit.
EmCeeGramr
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I just feel like the entire industry, Sony included, has been explaining and selling the world VR for like three years now, and if you're in the group that's going to be an early adopter to buy a $400 headset at this point you know what it's all about.
Couldn't possibly be further from how my friends and I felt about the conference. I can get them not feeling everything, but Dan's comment about this being the worst Sony conference in several years just came off as weird to me. We're not THAT far removed from Wonderbook, you know.
Dragon Puncher
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To be fair the Kojima game was the only one where they all agreed that not explaining anything was actually better.
Zen_Arcade
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If you're talking about what GB said, you clearly weren't paying attention to what they were saying. They were commenting that the VR portion of the conference was too vague and having someone up there to show off what the user was doing to make the character in the game function would be helpful to show off how VR works. You claim that they've been showing off how their VR headset works for three years, yet I still have yet to find out how any of those games outside of Resident Evil are going to work. I'm clueless to how Batman and Star Wars control, and Farpoint was detailed far better in a couple minutes of the GB post conference talk than it was for the entire demo on stage. They didn't say that they needed some executive up there to ramble on for the entire show, they were just saying that having someone up there to point out what the user was doing to play the game would be helpful in showing off what the games were. Especially when like half of the things they showed off for their VR headset didn't have any sort of demo in the first place.
I came in right after the conference ended and I don't remember anything about state of the platform speeches and padding it out with specific info that should be on the show floor.
https://www.twitch.tv/easyallies/v/72202773
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I think this is the reaction some people want out of GB at all times.
go to 11:37:00
I think this is the reaction some people want out of GB at all times.
Rats Off To Ya
Banned
I want people to tell me why VR is awesome, god dammit. I'm still confused about that. Maybe if they were better at explaining it to me.
You have to be intentionally obtuse to have this be the take away from the discussion. People genuinely didn't know if CoD was a vr thing or just the game until a bit later because Sony did fuck all in order to frame the conference in any cohesive manner.
EmCeeGramr
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I'm also gonna say nothing about the VR segment felt confusing at all, except the half a second where I was like, "Is this still VR? Okay no it's obviously CoD, cool."
nckillthegrimace
Member
Right. Game game game game game game continues to be the absolute best conference strategy, no matter what anyone says.
Also, you don't need a "state of the platform" speech if you're caving the other guy's skull in according to pretty much every available metric and have a robust, varied first and third party lineup. Because the state of the platform is clearly healthy.
Count of Monte Cristo
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I never really watched giant bomb until now, I enjoyed having different opinions and commentary during the presentations. I found myself agreeing with them about a couple of things, expecially how bad final fantasy 15 and scalebound's presentation where. It's nice not to have someone shilling for game companies 24/7.
Is there an archive of them during Konami's epic 2010 E3 presentation? That must have been comedy gold.
Is there an archive of them during Konami's epic 2010 E3 presentation? That must have been comedy gold.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Yeah....if they have to spell out what VR is at this point, then it's like....bruh where have you been. "VR is this thing you put on your head, and due to having a screen output two images at slightly different angles, it looks like you're in the game! And you control shit with your two dongle hands. "
Like...people who watch this, should know what VR is at this point. It's been years where they've showcased those fake 'IN THE GAME' trailers. We got a whole bunch of games shown to us, alot of gameplay footage, alot of announcements and teases, and it's like....yeah it's nice to want something tangible, but at the same time you as a journalist, are going to get that tangible thing throughout the week.
Maybe...Maybe E3 isn't for Giant Bomb.
Rats Off To Ya
Banned
Actually, most of them seemed pretty into the Kojima thing based on the post-show discussion. Maybe their live reaction was different, I dunno.
I mean, anyone who wanted anything else out of Kojima probably isn't that into what Kojima's selling in the first place.
broncobuster
Banned
It needed a buffer. Resident Evil VII had a jarring transition, as well. Initial confusion about whether it's a VR game, exclusive, first person.
I don't know if that's true, I just feel like the games they showed and announced don't really stand out on their own. Like I finished the conference, and had to think back and try to remember what was there. Beyond Horizon, TLG, God of War and RE7 I had to look it up. Their new announcements didn't make a big impact just being presented as a trailer, so I would've liked the developers to get up on stage and expand a bit more on the game. For some things like Horizon that's not necessary, but I think games like Days Gone or Farpoint might've been more interesting if they had more information. I don't want the boring state of the PS4 address, but I also just don't want 90 minutes of one trailer after the other. Show the trailer and then give it some room to breath.
And that's kind of ignoring how the VR segment was weak with a bunch of "experiences". I agree that at this point we shouldn't need 30 minutes devoted to VR, but it just felt awkward.
Intheflorsh
Banned
You feel that way because you're a moderator on a video game forum, the mainstream media and the public at large are different beasts.
backflip10019
Member
See stuff like this is fun but really makes them seem like amateurs. Getting excited about something is great, but if you're a video game journalist, you really should be more poised than this.
Also RE5 and 6 were middling at best.
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