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tryagainlater
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Anyone else think this was a fairly boring demo derby?
Piston Hyundai
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It was much better than the last one. Loads of dead air in that one.
No way, the end of the Thrasher demo killed me
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
It's no double D but the double B was alright.
Dr_Boris_Goltz
Banned
That standoff in the shack in the latest Murder Island is grade A Giant Bomb.
Finally Dr Manhattan put some pants on.
I continue to not understand why Bioware games are open world. They are bad at it.
brainzelda
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To be honest I think BotW is a paradigm shift in open world design and freedom. Even Horizon suffered from the typical last gen open world issues.
Sleeping Lesson
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I actually hope publishers look at Breath of the Wild and go "Nah we can't pull that off" and make their games more linear instead.
Even Horizon has a somewhat satisfying open world loop. It's cribbing heavily from Far Cry, but it's satisfying.
Bioware games are a fucking chore, and then you come to a linear, narrative heavy portion that's actually good and you think why isn't the entire game THIS.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Eh to be fair the biggest change botw did was to give you the ability to climb everywhere. 
Otherwise it's kinda an open world game?
Otherwise it's kinda an open world game?
LurkerPrime
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There should really be a series where Dan plays platformers. He is made for it.
The investors scoff. "You see that mountain? Make it like that."
It's an open world with purpose. A surprisingly rare trait in the genre.
I think someone at Nintendo described it as "open air" which is really the best descriptor, because it really feels totally distinct from traditional open world games.
The investors scoff. "You see that mountain? Make it like that."
Eh to be fair the biggest change botw did was to give you the ability to climb everywhere.
Otherwise it's kinda an open world game?
It's an open world with purpose. A surprisingly rare trait in the genre.
I think someone at Nintendo described it as "open air" which is really the best descriptor, because it really feels totally distinct from traditional open world games.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Mmm that really tells me nothing.
Don't get me wrong the freedom of movement is a big game changer to me but otherwise it's a very well designed open world with fun places to explore, but doesn't really seem to break the mould of what an open world could be.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
All open world games have purpose.
Like Assassins Creed. Stab things until you become the best.
Far Cry. Shoot the guy you're going for and shoot his things along the way
Horizon. Get revenge for friends and family.
Zelda. Kill Ganon.
They all have purpose. In fact they all have more purpose than Zelda, which starts at 'Kill' and stops at 'Ganon.'.
We talking vita here
It's more than just that and why zelda can played in short spurts, you the player can set goals and achieve them as fast as 10 minutes or as long as it takes to finish the first true quest "kill Ganon"
With a game like farcry (can't talk about horizon cuz lul) if you wanted to upgrade anything fully you'd take way more than 10 minutes and would become distracted by anything else because hunting animals is boring especially when the higher tier ones want a lot and they're all rare
Piston Hyundai
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brainzelda
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I think another key innovation in BotW is the paraglider. The ability to jump off from *anywhere* and get back to the ground quickly alleviates a ton of the frustration that you would normally have if, for example, you took 30 minutes to climb a mountain and there was no reward at the top. Instead of having the feeling that you wasted your time, you just shrug and jump off to tackle a new obstacle.
Ironically the closest "open world" game I can compare BotW to is Assassin's Creed, because in that game you can also climb anything and jump off anywhere (albeit into a haystack).
SuperSonic1305
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Around here? Didn't it win GOTY?
BreezyLimbo
Banned
All open world games are literally the same.
"Oh I'm going to do this side mission in 10 minutes"
"Oh I'm going to hunt this resource for 10 minutes"
Zelda though? "Oh I have to track down a tower then find a town then hope there's a side quest there then go all the way across the map to do this side quest then find out I have to grind then run back all the way to the side quest person and hope I remember where he's at because no waypoints lol" and whoops there goes an hour of your time wasted getting sand boots.
Like I said, starts and ends at kill ganon. Everything else is fluff.
OdysseusVA
Banned
Par for the course
Eh to be fair the biggest change botw did was to give you the ability to climb everywhere.
Otherwise it's kinda an open world game?
Some would say a Ubisoft game
Death Metalist
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I asked Peter Brown and sadly he won't be able to make it.
I thought it was damn good. Great games and nice behind the scenes videos, only downside was that there wasn't any
music video
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I think the fact that they make climbing more of an ordeal in zelda makes it more rewarding than AC, which just kinda automates it nowadays.
But yeah, just movement in general in BotW is a joy, and I even like shield surfing a lot, but the open world doesn't feel like a paradigm shifter. It's probably not even my favourite open world to explore? It's up there though.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Yeah, the best part about the new Zelda is the free movement that they do. Everything else, from the equipment degrading, to the food gathering/cooking has been done before.
LurkerPrime
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I guess I worded that poorly, but BotW's open world is designed like one gigantic level, rather than a lobby that delivers you to levels. The core gameplay loop is all about exploring the world, not traversing to the next instanced mission. It compliments this exploratory feel by giving the player total freedom in how to approach everything. And it is without a doubt the most sophisticated open world game of all time, expertly crafted in every respect, which makes its accomplishments all the more impressive.
Like, in spite of how much I enjoy The Witcher 3, I thought Xenoblade Chronicles X had the better open world of 2016, by virtue of how the open world was designed. BotW is this feeling times a thousand; I honestly don't know how anyone can surpass it.
Like, in spite of how much I enjoy The Witcher 3, I thought Xenoblade Chronicles X had the better open world of 2016, by virtue of how the open world was designed. BotW is this feeling times a thousand; I honestly don't know how anyone can surpass it.
Death Metalist
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Twin Tails
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Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I feel like I can say all this about morrowind back in the day.
Is.... Is that Palmer Lucky?
Yes, it actually is.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I mean, even then please spoiler or link images of half naked people in consideration for people browsing the thread while working?
I know it's fun to post for shock effect but yeah, be considerate.
I know it's fun to post for shock effect but yeah, be considerate.
Death Metalist
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LurkerPrime
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Mister_Bubbles
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I was just about to go to sleep. Now I have to stay up because that can't be the last image I have in my mind before sleeping :/
BreezyLimbo
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I didn't realize Palmer became a hooker after getting fired from Oculus.
LurkerPrime
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Four more posts. We can do this.
Everyone told him to be quiet. So he did the only logical thing.
Everyone told him to be quiet. So he did the only logical thing.
ShaggsMagoo
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Please tell me kids today don't actually think like this. I can't be that old. The Saturn was from the gen before the PS2, it was a contemporary of the PS1 and N64. The Dreamcast was technically of the PS2 era, but it died before the Xbox and Gamecube came out.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Back in the day though morrowind was insane.
I mean sure, compared to right now it's not a fair fight but if I have to choose which world I love more I'd still say morrowind?
Like I've said, the movement to me in zelda is the real game changer, just not the world.
Wait really? I thought it was from the nes era. I started gaming during the ps2 era and I don't remember the saturn.
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