I want a Giant Bomb bracelet that has the acronym WWJD? (What Would Jeremiah Do?) just so Dan can wear it at all times and really think to himself "am I living up to the standards Jeremiah has set for me?
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I want a Giant Bomb bracelet that has the acronym WWJD? (What Would Jeremiah Do?) just so Dan can wear it at all times and really think to himself "am I living up to the standards Jeremiah has set for me?
BreezyLimbo
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What a baby. Don't dish it out if you can't take it.
Americans made Trump president.
One of the best parts about GAF is that it's not made up solely of Americans.
BreezyLimbo
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THE SERVERS ARE AMERICAN
THE LANGUAGE IS AMERICAN
THIS POST IS AMERICAN
USA
USA
USA
(srsly tho Giant Bomb is american)
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Eh you get pockets of dissent like with every fandom.
They'll get a furriner in there one day. Probably a Canadian, but I'd take it.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
They'll get into furries?
LurkerPrime
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Austin was briefly Canadian. Ergo, GB is global.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
They'll get the fuhrer?
Those pockets are pretty loud this time around. The hubbub over the localization probably didn't help P5's chances either.
Persona 5 feels like the kind of thing where people on GAF are going to put it higher on their list because of how vocal the blowback to its incredibly obvious faults are. They might not even do that consciously, just sort of a "I didn't mind the localization, it's number 1!" type thing.
Dangansona
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Guys, I promise you a lot of people like Persona 5. It's still my game of the year over Zelda and Yakuza thus far. It sits in the middle for me when it comes to the newer games: better than 4, a smidge below 3.
To the post above me: or maybe they just actually think it's their favorite game?
To the post above me: or maybe they just actually think it's their favorite game?
kambaybolongo
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Or maybe the game is really good and the faults are greatly exaggerated because shitting on it is in vogue?
Jeff's a penguin, Brad's a hamster, Alex is a wolf, Dan's a gator...
Vinny's fursona is just
I bet ya the truth is somewhere in between those extremes.
nckillthegrimace
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It's clearly the best one, but you'd think they would have figured a few more things out in the eight years since the last game. Also, you'd think they would have had enough time to give the localization a few more passes.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Like honestly my biggest disappointment about it is that it still has not surpassed persona 3 for me.
Otherwise yeah, I really liked it. Not without its issues but I've made them heard elsewhere.
kingofthedead45
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Jeff's a penguin, Brad's a hamster, Alex is a wolf, Dan's a gator...
Vinny's fursona is just
All of these are 100% right, fuck me how much thought have you put into this?
kambaybolongo
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I suppose but I think think calling it really good is an extreme. It reviewed incredibly well and fans of the series love it.
Yeah probably. And it's totally fine if it is your favourite. But blowback certainly makes people redouble their support in defense of a thing.
And there is a lot to defend against; Nier's and Yakuza's localizations put Persona's to shame.
Like, I'm not even dunking on the game in general, just saying it caught heat and that heat is making people defend what they should probably recognize as a fault, because it's in Persona.
Or maybe that localization is totally fine to them/you guys. In which case, OK.
Oh well. It can't be helped.
Twin Tails
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persona battlegrounds
Dangansona
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I don't get the localization issues because they are mostly in the opening hours, and are really either seen in adult characters (especially Sae who is the exception and consistently awful all game) or your dialogue options. I just can't figure out how much of it are mistakes versus intentional poor decisions. I guess those who played it will know what I mean. Point being would extra passes have helped?
But regardless, it's a 100 hour game with some bad lines in the beginning which isn't even original writing just bad localization. I don't think it's enough to suddenly tarnish the game.
I'm preparing for my GB/Animal Crossing crossover fic
kambaybolongo
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After playing the game for 80 hours bad localization stuck out to me less than a handful of times. Its certainly a different style of localization than Yakuza, which can come off as better or worse depending on what youre looking for. If youve played a persona game before, there is really no difference to past games.
Take that for what you will.
Take that for what you will.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
You know what, this actually makes me think that a pokemon battlegrounds could totally work.
You and 90 other people get dropped onto an island full of pokemon.
Random pokemon in pokeballs replaces random weapons.
You also have wild pokemon who are more powerful who you have to battle to capture to build a team of 6.
Battle all the other trainers until you get your chikorita dinner.
For Persona/SMT just replace pokemon with demons.
As someone who has fallen off somewhere after the fifth dungeon, I can tell you that for me the quality of the English writing (not the VA, that's mostly good) is...bothersome. Aggressively tolerable, but that isn't good enough anymore.
The last main entry Persona release was in 2008. I would really hope they would have done better in the eight to nine years since.
I say it's tolerable because it is. It's familiar. It's the same stilted JRPG localization that we've had since JRPGs became a thing. But bit by bit these things tended to get better, but for some weird reason Persona (not sure about mainline SMT, I'm unfamiliar) is still popping out like it's the mid-00s. As someone who was incredibly excited for 5, that's a tremendous fucking bummer. All that righteous gen-Z rage that should be there is wasted on limp dialogue I can see in my head before it even hits the screen.
Please for the love of fuck do not use some form of "I'll never forgive you!" in your dialogue again, localizers. Let that translated phrase fucking die already.
ZanzibarBreeze
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Was there a Murder Island today? Usually the archive goes up shortly after but still zippo!
Edit: Never mind. Evidently went up as I hit the post button...
Edit: Never mind. Evidently went up as I hit the post button...
nckillthegrimace
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Tarnish is a strong word, but it's absolutely not up to Atlus's usual standard. The stiff way a lot of the adults speak, as well as the bizarre pronunciations of some of the characters' names, makes me think Atlus Japan meddled in the localization more than they usually do. I assume the project was rushed, so they put a ton of people on it with some Atlus Japan dude in charge.
Dangansona
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It just seems so weird to have Sae in particular have poorly localized lines all the way until the end. It almost feels like it was a decision someone made at some point.
Speaking of English writing, what in the world does aggressively tolerable mean
The Sae stuff is particularly frustrating because she's maybe the worst part of Persona 5, but that same actress is definitely the best one in Breath of the Wild. I have to assume the direction is partly to blame even though I think the actors generally do okay with the material.
Yes, that's the point. Frustratingly mediocre. Annoyingly okay. Not great but too literal and "technically accurate" to be awful.
I dunno why I keep hearing that there were only bad lines in the beginning. It was throughout the entire thing here and there, with some especially noticeable examples. Probably one of the ones that received the most criticism from what I've seen was when two villains were discussing their plans, and that was post-6th palace.
Same thing for the main party, they say stuff at times I could never see someone in high school actually saying.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Not enough fidget spinner talk.
BreezyLimbo
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I was thinking about this
10 years from now these 6 year olds with spinners are going to be in high school
one of them, ONE OF THEM is going to find his spinner and bring it to school
Then everyone is going to be like WHOA THAT'S OLD SCHOOL, YOU'RE SO COOL WITH YOUR FIDGET SPINNER, MAN I REMEMBER THOSE, YOU REMEMBER FIDGET SPINNERS?
And I hate everything for that.
That reminds me, I just got a slice of pizza and the place has kids' drawings all over the walls. A bunch of the drawings were of pizza fidget spinners. The next generation is doing well.
Edit: The highest concentration of fidget drawings:
Edit2: Lmao, I didn't even notice "Buy Figet Spinner They make you consentrait". Keep doing you, Shazad.
Oh. What? I thought his we was referring to him and the other people who work at siftd. Are you telling me no one else works at siftd?
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Because it reminds you of your mortality?
There were way too many translator and editors on staff for Persona 5. So I would say it is a rushed project so that they can release it to English audience faster. When the localization project lead boast about having the most translator and editors on a team that is usually not a good sign.
However, in the era we are in more people would rather have more content out irrespective of the quality.
BreezyLimbo
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no it reminds me that these damned kids are practically playing with sticks that spin.
I played with a shoelace.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I played with beyblades which was a thing that spun.
As someone who walks through times square/surrounding area every day on the way to work, let me tell you...
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