He only deserves part of the blame though, cause he was hesitant and asked if he should spoil it, and everyone else was like "yeah do it".
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He only deserves part of the blame though, cause he was hesitant and asked if he should spoil it, and everyone else was like "yeah do it".
Glass Shark
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Worst thing to ever happen during GOTY
TheMadMan007
Member
Why would you bring that up? Now I'm pissed all over again. UGH!!!
Not worse than 2011 GotY, but Brad is the culprit behind the #1 and #2 biggest GotY crimes on Giant Bomb. Not sure what #3 is, top of mind.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Minerva's Den vs some mass effect 2 DLC.
The bombcast is essentially the longest running "feature" of Giant Bomb so it has a practically built-in user-base, which the beastcast can't really claim. Also, consider that UPF has surprisingly high viewership, so people will apparently continue to tune into things even if they seemingly dislike it.
Those are both really good, though. Maybe the Fallout 4 non-defense defense in 2015?
UPF is the The Walking Dead of internet video game shows?
I just wish UPF was them playing what they want to play rather than whatever bad bullshit shows up on steam new releases
Like it somehow became a feature showing the worst of steam. Which is actually somehow a good feature idea. Just not for upf
But I still generally enjoy upf just for having Jeff sit around and chat for a few hours
Like it somehow became a feature showing the worst of steam. Which is actually somehow a good feature idea. Just not for upf
But I still generally enjoy upf just for having Jeff sit around and chat for a few hours
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
That was more austin walker's crime really.
Also people can't comprehend that just because they dislike it other people might like it?
Also people can't comprehend that just because they dislike it other people might like it?
J.W. Stillwater
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That's my thought as well. I bet there are a lot of Bombcast listeners who don't even know that the Beastcast exists. Like, the type of people who exclusively listen to the podcast and don't visit the site.
Did you not hear the beastcast email about Shadow of Mordor?
That or it's the Arrow of video game shows. Except with less shipping.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Yeah but that's justified.
Got me an Abby pep talk
https://twitter.com/ybbaaabby/status/892533237574238208
https://twitter.com/ybbaaabby/status/892533237574238208
That's not an uncommon thing I see here on gaf (and other places). A lot of people listen to the Bombcast exclusively.
It's like when Star Trek DS9 first began airing while TNG was still an ongoing show. I still know a ton of people who never bothered with DS9 because they didn't want the spinoff show and preferred only the mainline series.
No, I get that. I get entirely why people like things that have had small but loud backlashes like Bethesda games and late era Kojima and whatnot, and even louder outcries against things that have noticeably lilted while still often being amazing, like roguelites and the Telltale formula. It's why I called it a non-defense defense. They had a long argument during most disappointing that should have been saved for the top 10 and everyone was talking across each other with different points.
Ultimately the game didn't win most disappointing nor make top 10 so most of the arguments became moot, but the discussion around the limitations of game engines, that studio's philosophy, when enough is enough, and how much jank is acceptable for verisimilitude to not be entirely shattered was so cross-ways that it seemed like something that needed a much bigger talk but never got it. It was broaching on very heavy beliefs about the medium but got packed into a little "how disappointing is Fallout 4" box when it should have been more.
Edit: Also, this isn't a shot at you, Anti, but for some reason when it comes to video games, counters to criticism often just say something to the effect of "nah it's great"/"fuck the haters"/"can't they just like it?" and that is entirely unhelpful and really just drags down the conversation. This happens frequently with long-lauded series, like, look at this topic: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1413459 . A third of the posts are something to the effect of "it needs no defense".
Like...okay? You like it? Assuming anyone that likes something less than you is already wrong rather than that they just feel differently is exactly the problem with this. I'd love all games to be amazing all the time too, but they're not, and pushing them to be better through criticism (preferably constructive because brief "lol fuck that game ruined my childhood" posts aren't exactly fucking helpful either) shouldn't be taken as a shot. Take it in stride and be a little self-reflective about the things you enjoy.
Additionally, the sentiment that the re-vote of GotY that MGS4 got cemented it as factual is incredibly annoying. The do-over shouldn't have happened because all it was going to do was embolden one side to be knobs about it. It's like some Tom Brady manic fandom-tier bullshit, and I'd love for all of us to be better than that.
Jeff frantically laughing at 5-6 people wanting to put Rocket League above Super Mario Maker and basically everything Jeff said in defence of Super Mario Maker.
The darkest Jeff.
formated4tv
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Not even the Beastcast part, but they've said before that there's people that literally only listen to the Bombcast, and don't even bother with the site itself.
What a life that must be. I don't know how I'd even picture the guys at this point if I hadn't seen them for however many years...especially Dan, haha.
BUNTING1243
Banned
During GOTY Knife Fights Brad demonstrates a sheer perseverance that means he can just out-argue anyone. It's impressive.
Jeff just acts like anyone who doesn't like his game as much as him is insane.
It's a dark time.
I remember they read an email on one of the bombcasts a couple years ago from someone who never visited the site and tried to guess what each GB duder looked like going off of voice alone. iirc I think they thought Brad was a big burly guy who was into manly man things. lol.
I think Jeff has at points said most people who listen to the podcast never go the site at all.
Death Metalist
Member
I don't know if it was the same person but someone thought Jeff was a hipster guy with a bunch of tattoos.
VeryGooster
Banned
lol Watching Heather Alexandra (Kotaku) streaming L.A. Noire and we're in chat helping her look for Dan
Isn't he near the beginning of one particular case and that's it?
VeryGooster
Banned
Yeah as some reporter
Twin Tails
Member
yes
Jeff is definitely not Arthur Gies. Aside from the lack of tattoos, Jeff doesn't allege his fellow reviewers are part of a conspiracy when they happen like a game he doesn't like, such as Dark Souls.
DanLongman
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Yup looks bad
Empty Space
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I spent a good two years doing that. I got curious about what they looked like and then I saw they had a ton of videos. The first thing I ever watched was Ryan's TANG Resident Evil episode. It was a bit of a revelation for me that people who weren't just random YouTubers we're doing longer video game related videos. There was a stark difference in the quality of their stuff compared to basically everything else that was available at the time.
Human Trashcan
Banned
Yeah tbh Jeff is probably my least favorite during GOTY podcasts. He just gets dismissive and at time kind of mean-spirited.
Also I still think the "let's read the wiki" is the greatest GOTY crime, what a bad joke that was
Where is my youtube Bombcast? I need my clickable timestamps.
I wish we could say the same today.
I wish we could say the same today.
He was goddamn savage in that argument
But also the right call. It's a bad ending.
CypherSignal
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Huh, I think I completely glazed over the use of the term "shuck and jive" before.
It wasn't savagery, it was Brad-like stonewalling.
Oh, yeah hands down. It takes the vibe of what essentially should be a dumb fun year end thing and makes it petty and awkward at times. Y'know, good holiday listening
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Huh, what were you expecting? It seemed pretty obvious what it was going to be.
My own fault from being on a bit of a blackout, but I had kind of hoped they had pushed the formula further after talking about rebuilding portions of the game. By all accounts it sounds 'fine' if a bit narratively underwhelming according to some - but the surveillance/hologram playback presentation didn't hook me much when watching the GB unfinished/trailers.
Twin Tails
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The Wikipedia Incident was so good. Jeff's greatest moment, no doubt.
tryagainlater
Member
Super Mario Maker and Hitman were the right calls for their respective years and they were made by Jeff so he's ok. Still weird that Jeff turned on Doom in the end.
Sleeping Lesson
Member
Wikipedia is a great GOTY moment. It would have been easily countered if they'd finished the game, which they hadn't, which was already a tremendous argument against its inclusion.
And don't get me wrong, I love Life is Strange.
And don't get me wrong, I love Life is Strange.
OdysseusVA
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SMM was a mistake
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