Antiwhippy
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If it wasn't fun enough to them to make them continue (also I think in the quick look dan said 2 was OK, so presumably he played a bit of it), they are entitled to think that mordor plays better than AC.
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Not to get picky but at the start of the Mordor QL Dan says that it is "Assassins Creed but does everything better" and Brad "agrees 100%".
Dan admits he never makes it past the first few hours of AC games because the story is too slow and boring. Brad - if I remember correctly - quit part way in to Brotherhood and hasn't played one since.
Now they might be right - AC has its problems and I have not played Mordor - but I don't think either of them are qualified to make that statement
Having played and finished all the AC games, I'd say they've played enough to judge it.
They did D4 last week so yes.
Not to get picky but at the start of the Mordor QL Dan says that it is "Assassins Creed but does everything better" and Brad "agrees 100%".
Dan admits he never makes it past the first few hours of AC games because the story is too slow and boring. Brad - if I remember correctly - quit part way in to Brotherhood and hasn't played one since.
Now they might be right - AC has its problems and I have not played Mordor - but I don't think either of them are qualified to make that statement
Dan perfectly expressed what AC did that the didn't like. The amount that brad played of the AC series is more than enough. What important changes have there been since then? I would argue just the boat stuff and that is just a mechanic that got tacked on and didn#t change anything about the base.
Well the whole - awkward running about, falling off buildings - thing has been improved over the years. Brad cited - look how fast I run up this building - looked exactly like how it is in AC4 now.
They have not changed much of the AC mechanics since AC2, a lot would wish they had innovated more, but they have refined them considerably over the years. The only thing I think they have not improved is combat - which they just made very easy rather than fixing.
They have not changed much of the AC mechanics since AC2, a lot would wish they had innovated more, but they have refined them considerably over the years. The only thing I think they have not improved is combat - which they just made very easy rather than fixing.
From how he's talked about it, it sounds like it'd be his Game of the Generation for the PS360 era.
The combat in the AC series has changed a lot since AC2. I bought AC2 in a PSN sale having originally played it on 360 at release and it was kinda jarring. I think it's just been made easier so it's weird revisiting the old system. Otherwise it's mostly refinements. You still get the "taking two steps up a wall" thing but it's not as clunky as it was a few years ago.
best racing game ever
stump sock
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kind of a weird stance to take, but I prefer AC combat when it's stone simple and devoid of challenge. just let me chain kill like 15 people in a row and walk away.
among the many reasons AC3 was a miserable experience was that the combat seemed to be like 70% banging swords against swords until something happened.
they could literally lift the entirety of B and drop it onto a new map and I'd be happy as a pig in shit. You couldn't really do much to improve the experience.
among the many reasons AC3 was a miserable experience was that the combat seemed to be like 70% banging swords against swords until something happened.
they could literally lift the entirety of B
and drop it onto a new map and I'd be happy as a pig in shit. You couldn't really do much to improve the experience.brainzelda
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As I grow older I have less and less time to play games. So I've noticed that I don't tend to be as creative with gameplay systems as I did when I was younger. If there's a move I can spam in a character action game, I'll spam it. If there's a gameplay system that doesn't earn me new moves or xp, I'll avoid it.
So I ask about the Nemesis system: to what end?
What does it offer me besides the fact that it's depth and scale is impressive? Because I need something tangible or else all I'll do is kill the main warchiefs and roll credits. I simply don't have time to be creative anymore.
So I ask about the Nemesis system: to what end?
What does it offer me besides the fact that it's depth and scale is impressive? Because I need something tangible or else all I'll do is kill the main warchiefs and roll credits. I simply don't have time to be creative anymore.
Damn right it is!
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
Have fun?
stump sock
Member
I'm kind of the opposite. the older I get, the more fun I have in breaking systems. I don't care too much if I finish games, I like messing with AI and trying to beat missions/challenges in the dumbest ways possible.
my friend walked in on me spending like half an hour in Second Son trying to make npcs kill each other or fall to their deaths.
my friend walked in on me spending like half an hour in Second Son trying to make npcs kill each other or fall to their deaths.
Well, if you try to just kill the Warchiefs first thing, you'll likely get destroyed. You need to gather intel about them first and find out what their weaknesses are. You'll also want to kill/interrogate their captains or bodyguards, maybe turn a couple of them to your side and try to cause a power struggle with the Warchief. That way, when you finally do go in for the kill, the odds will be far more in your favor.
Brad nerding out over the "Tolkien Literature" vs Dan's "dumb Orc shit".
I think I might be in the middle. Tolkien is very important for how he defined a lot of modern fantasy stalwarts but I wish it wasn't such a chore to read.
I think he was asking what you got for killing the warchiefs. Do you get new skills or weapons? Do you have to do it to finish the game or just get 100% completion?
7-8 out of ten/4 stars is seeming about right for this game. If the story is meh then you can't really expect any higher.
I think I might be in the middle. Tolkien is very important for how he defined a lot of modern fantasy stalwarts but I wish it wasn't such a chore to read.
I think he was asking what you got for killing the warchiefs. Do you get new skills or weapons? Do you have to do it to finish the game or just get 100% completion?
7-8 out of ten/4 stars is seeming about right for this game. If the story is meh then you can't really expect any higher.
I totally agree with that. I respect a lot about LOTR but I am really not a fan of his writing style. It's very slow and too descriptive.
TheBaronOfNA
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I get to apprecited Tolkien more as I was growing up. LotR is not a easy read for a 12 year old kid in Mexico.
But I like this game is in the middle of "look this obscure and awesome reference" and "go kill fucking orcs". Specially because the stuff seems to refeer to the less optimist parts of LotR lore
Jimmyfenix
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Judging by the ql it could be 5 stars but I expect 4 stars
after watching that Mordor QL I'm expecting 5 stars from Brad tbh. he seems to really like it.
yeah, I had a lot of fun with the demo and I don't even like racing games all that much.
yeah, I had a lot of fun with the demo and I don't even like racing games all that much.
Seems like more Horizon just with a new map. You could argue this is more than the Forza main games have offered.
I remember sinking a ton of hours in to Forza 2 and was a little disappointed by how little changed in Forza 3 and by Forza 4 they were just taking the piss. I have not played 5 but it looks like a prettier version with better or worse AI - depending on who you ask and what difficulty it is on.
I bet you still skipped pass the songs and poems
Incandenza
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Forza Horizon 2 Quick Look is so good. Dan's really good at getting people wildly off-topic.
therealminime
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I think it's mostly a case of more of the same. I didn't play the first Horizon, 2 is my first, and I am loving it a ton. But looking back at the quick look for the first game 2 seems to be basically the same thing, just in Europe now.
Basileus777
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The music talk in the Forza QL is hilarious.
Angelus Errare
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Jeff isn't really feeling FH2. It looks cool I think. Though I hope they release a patch to address the smoke/dirt going through your car. I know, nitpick but ugh.
TheBaronOfNA
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I bet you still skipped pass the songs and poems
Of course.
Doesn't help that the rymhe was probably lost in translation.
Thought I liked the Tom Bombadil one...
I bet you still skipped pass the songs and poems
Omfg those songs and poems. Between that and the hobbits prancing and meandering around the woods for about half of fellowship I just couldn't do it. I definitely have a lot of respect for Tolkien blazing the trail for the fantasy genre but I just can't get into the books.
SatelliteOfLove
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"He also writes songs where he sings about loving other songs, which is the lowest form of songwriting ever."
Dan makes some points, but Jeff wins this argument.
Dan makes some points, but Jeff wins this argument.
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
In the Mordor QL I love that Brad is suddenly in a battle royale with a War Chief, its body guards and a bunch of capitains...
Yep, the systems they have in place seem really cool.
Jeff's taste changes constantly. I don't think he ever said there was anything he thought was bad, it all sounded like anything he might not be as into about it is subjective. Sometimes it's all right place right time.
Leafhopper
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Paradise isn't Burnout 3. So I disagree.
SteveWinwood
Member
I was initially super skeptical about the nemesis stuff and the whole political system. It was reinforced in my first hour because this:
Then in the second hour I made some mistakes and got overwhelmed and one captain killed me, got super strong, I fucked up some other events and he got stronger, now he's immune to almost everything and hates my guts. Thunderbeard is a real jerk. So now I'm really into it.
isn't really true. First thing I did was just wander around the map and ended up casually killing over half of the generals without being hit once.
Then in the second hour I made some mistakes and got overwhelmed and one captain killed me, got super strong, I fucked up some other events and he got stronger, now he's immune to almost everything and hates my guts. Thunderbeard is a real jerk. So now I'm really into it.
I might have agreed with you before they had the big patch that also included the restart function, but after that paradise became the best.
Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
I was kinda sceptical about that system too, cause it sounds like it's only really cool when you die a lot and looking at the gameplay footage the game doesn't seem that hard. So I'll probably start it on a higher difficulty level
SteveWinwood
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There are no difficulty levels and it is really easy.
ReturnOfTheRAT
Member
Not really. I started the first episode and got distracted with other stuff. Then came back to the page and saw that they were up to 7 at the time. I've been knocking them out everyday since then to catch up. Kind of similar to how they're doing the breaks inbetween and Drew forgets what button to press, etc. I finished the last one last night, Drew has the hang of it now.
I won't be able to watch the live finale(?) of the first game though.
Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
securitypigeon
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werd
Yup. Paradise is great and I'm sure it's objectively a better game or some such bullshit, but B2 and 3 are the most satisfying racing games I've ever played.
Fucking EA.
stump sock
Member
I'd love someone to do an HD remake of Burnout 3 that doesn't have 2 minute load times.
I'd play the shit out of it.
I'd play the shit out of it.
Felix Lighter
Member
Sounds kind of like antibiotic resistant bacteria. You kill off the weak only to make the strong, stronger or something like that.
AuthenticM
Member
I didn't like Burnout Paradise, while Burnout 3: Takedown is one of my favorite games. I played that game so much on the original Xbox.