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Giant Bomb XXI | Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth
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Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Like if we're week 5 into jeff saying that he doesn't like the division and brad going "Yeah I agree BUT I STILL LOVE IT" then I can see it.
If not they aren't comparable at all. People bitching about week 1 the division talk were being insane.
If not they aren't comparable at all. People bitching about week 1 the division talk were being insane.
Hey man, not everyone wants a video game podcast to talk about the newest and biggest video game and the most potentially monumental advance in video games since their invention.
i can kinda see getting sick of vr talk when it was so far away but now that it's almost here that's really exciting and interesting
Some people just don't like cool stuff.
The problem with VR talk is, like they did with Destiny, they talked way too much about it when they actually had nothing new to add. By the time they actually had new stuff to convey, like this week, people were justifiably burnt out.
FWIW, I've hated the Beastcast VR talk and I thought this week's Bombcast was fine because there was actually some real insights.
I'm not sure if them talking about it before has much to do with it, there's always a lot of loud people who complain about VR every time it's covered at a lot of outlets for various reasons. Look at all the shitposting in pretty much every VR bews thread on GAF for example.
I'm not sure if them talking about it before has much to do with it, there's always a lot of loud people who complain about VR every time it's covered at a lot of outlets for various reasons. Look at all the shitposting in pretty much every VR bews thread on GAF for example.
Some people are going to shitpost on things regardless. I kind of find it hard to believe the majority of people complaining about the Beastcast and Bombcast talks are in that group.
'This talk has gotten stale' is the number 1 complaint I've seen in the podcast threads and in community. Obviously on GB itself, that could be different, but I don't frequent their comment sections for obvious reasons.
division, destiny, shit's all the same
'the numbers going up' isn't an exciting thing to talk about anymore.
They talk about it for a few minutes the second week after the game is out.
They talk about it for a few minutes the second week after the game is out.
Again, I haven't listened yet so I don't know how much it dominates conversation. I didn't mind it the first week but if people are wondering how some people can be sick of it already, that's why.
Some people are going to shitpost on things regardless. I kind of find it hard to believe the majority of people complaining about the Beastcast and Bombcast talks are in that group.
I'm just saying that it's probably more than what you're saying, and the shitposting for VR goes way beyond most other subjects because a lot of people aren't interested, think it's too expensive, are fanboys etc.
The Dear Leader
Banned
I'm not unconvinced that Myggen isn't secretly a Giant Bomb undercover PR person...
I'm watchin' you pal... 0___o
I'm watchin' you pal... 0___o
I'm just saying that it's probably more than what you're saying, and the shitposting for VR goes way beyond most other subjects because a lot of people aren't interested, think it's too expensive, are fanboys etc.
I do think the GB folks have a tendency to downplay the negatives of VR (Cost, lack of unique content, continual problems of motion sickness for a good number of folks), but that's neither hear nor there. They do touch on some of that this week and I really appreciated that.
I just don't like the idea that some people are bringing up that you should automatically want to hear more VR talk because it's something that has a chance of being really important. I also dislike the idea that tiring of VR talk is purely a function of it being tough to describe. Seems like a real copout.
I do think the GB folks have a tendency to downplay the negatives of VR (Cost, lack of unique content, continual problems of motion sickness for a good number of folks), but that's neither hear nor there. They do touch on some of that this week and I really appreciated that.
I just don't like the idea that some people are bringing up that you should automatically want to hear more VR talk because it's something that has a chance of being really important. I also dislike the idea that tiring of VR talk is purely a function of it being tough to describe. Seems like a real copout.
For what it's worth I'll never be able to play VR games because of motion sickness, so my interest is purely theoretical.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I mean you shouldn't want to if you don't want to hear it, but is it really that reasonable to expect the GB crew to not talk about a big new gaming technology that is on the brink of being released?
Like, what do you expect?
Like, what do you expect?
stump sock
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Like, what do you expect?
I expect you to die.
For what it's worth I'll never be able to play VR games because of motion sickness, so my interest is purely theoretical.
I don't have it as bad as some, but it's definitely a worrying factor to me. I'm certain there's just going to be a large swath of VR games that will be unplayable to me because of it.
I'm hoping Occlus/Steam/Playstation etc, do a really good job getting demos out there for when the things do launch. I don't want to try a new VR game only to find it's far outside my comfort zone until it's too late. Hell, even general 'comfort ratings' like Occulus is doing isn't enough. Different types of things are going to cause motion sickness for different people.
I mean you shouldn't want to if you don't want to hear it, but is it really that reasonable to expect the GB crew to not talk about a big new gaming technology that is on the brink of being released?
Like, what do you expect?
There's definitely a difference between complaining about the talk at all and complaining about the quality of it. The VR Talk on the beastcast a few weeks ago (The one before they got the Vive in) was absolutely horrible.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I expect you to die.
I mean, eventually.
The problem with the VR stuff is the way you talk about it is so existential. Like there's always this 'assumed' nature whenever journalists talk about VR when the reality is most people haven't even touched it. It's not like you can go down to the Best Buy and 'lemme lookie at this here occulus thingamabob'
I remember one of the bombcasts Jeff said so surely that VR was the next thing and that it just was, that there was no doubt about that. And it just made me think how much of his current living situation colored that. Think about the people that are
A) Going to put down this much money for a headset
B) Aren't going to get sick from VR
C) Are going to put down that much money for a VR headset AND have a top of the line computer
D) Are interested in the kinds of experiences VR can offer(because it has a ton of limitations that devs on their show have mentioned a dozen times)
E) Have the space for a device like that.
This ain't a 250 dollar Wii or whatever
I remember one of the bombcasts Jeff said so surely that VR was the next thing and that it just was, that there was no doubt about that. And it just made me think how much of his current living situation colored that. Think about the people that are
A) Going to put down this much money for a headset
B) Aren't going to get sick from VR
C) Are going to put down that much money for a VR headset AND have a top of the line computer
D) Are interested in the kinds of experiences VR can offer(because it has a ton of limitations that devs on their show have mentioned a dozen times)
E) Have the space for a device like that.
This ain't a 250 dollar Wii or whatever
Piston Hyundai
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I expect you to die.
Is this as clever as I think it is
okay it is, good
stump sock
Member
I mean, eventually.
I hate explaining jokes, but I feel like maybe my statement warrants some explanation
The problem with the VR stuff is the way you talk about it is so existential. Like there's always this 'assumed' nature whenever journalists talk about VR when the reality is most people haven't even touched it. It's not like you can go down to the Best Buy and 'lemme lookie at this here occulus thingamabob'
I guess. but I'd rather hear silly pie in the sky visions of the future than this week's manshooter of record
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
The problem with the VR stuff is the way you talk about it is so existential. Like there's always this 'assumed' nature whenever journalists talk about VR when the reality is most people haven't even touched it. It's not like you can go down to the Best Buy and 'lemme lookie at this here occulus thingamabob'
I remember one of the bombcasts Jeff said so surely that VR was the next thing and that it just was, that there was no doubt about that. And it just made me think how much of his current living situation colored that. Think about the people that are
A) Going to put down this much money for a headset
B) Aren't going to get sick from VR
C) Are going to put down that much money for a VR headset AND have a top of the line computer
D) Are interested in the kinds of experiences VR can offer(because it has a ton of limitations that devs on their show have mentioned a dozen times)
E) Have the space for a device like that.
This ain't a 250 dollar Wii or whatever
Thing is, it depends on your expectations.
Big mainstream device that will be the first step to the singularity where all of our minds merge into one virtual space for eternity? No.
Niche but prominent platform that may slowly gain traction into the mainstream but have a solid niche base on PC and maybe PS4? I'd say yes.
I mean I expect there to be a constant base there just due to VR porn.
Twin Tails
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OT | "I can't wait for the first AR murder."
I though it was an AR murder game where your room is transformed into a muder scene that he couldn't wait for. But nope, it was straight up murder.
It's like when they talk about the digital future and how that's where it's going to go and where it is going.
And it's like, you know other people deal with bandwidth caps as they become more and more of a thing, right?
Bandwidth caps? I wish all I had to deal with were Bandwidth Caps.
Try living in a place where 1.5mbps down is considered fast internet.
It's like when they talk about the digital future and how that's where it's going to go and where it is going.
And it's like, you know other people deal with bandwidth caps as they become more and more of a thing, right?
You better tell the to the collective video game industry, because it's happening regardless.
The video game digital future isn't some game press echo chamber.
Listening to the Bombcast talk about food when hungry is dangerous. Went down to the kitchen for an evening snack just as they were getting to the chip email. I wasn't intending to have more than 500 calories or so, ended up eating four hot dogs (with buns) and a bowl of ice cream. Damn it all.
The Dear Leader
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Listening to the Bombcast talk about food when hungry is dangerous. Went down to the kitchen for an evening snack just as they were getting to the chip email. I wasn't intending to have more than 500 calories or so, ended up eating four hot dogs (with buns) and a bowl of ice cream. Damn it all.
Now this comment is making me hungry, it's a never ending cycle of eating.
You better tell the to the collective video game industry, because it's happening regardless.
The video game digital future isn't some game press echo chamber.
Digital as an option is completely here to stay, obviously. Physical versions going away entirely? I don't see it happening anytime soon. Infrastructure isn't ready to handle that. They'd be cutting off too many people. Doubly true as game sizes only get bigger.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Listening to the Bombcast talk about food when hungry is dangerous. Went down to the kitchen for an evening snack just as they were getting to the chip email. I wasn't intending to have more than 500 calories or so, ended up eating four hot dogs (with buns) and a bowl of ice cream. Damn it all.
I took a nap so it's too late for me to go out and buy something to eat. So I'm eating reeses cereal.
Candy?!? For Breakfast!?!?!I took a nap so it's too late for me to go out and buy something to eat. So I'm eating reeses cereal.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Candy?!? For Breakfast!?!?!
IT TASTES VERY VERY GOOD
AND IT'S LITERALLY CANDY
I took a nap so it's too late for me to go out and buy something to eat. So I'm eating reeses cereal.
that sounds so good actually
i haven't had a good sugary cereal in a long time
i've been on that grape nuts life for like...a year now
i'm gonna go get some cinnamon toast crunch tomorrow i think
Goddamn millenialsIT TASTES VERY VERY GOOD
AND IT'S LITERALLY CANDY
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I don't think I've eaten cereal in years.
Like, my breakfast nowadays is mostly coffee and sushi.
Like, my breakfast nowadays is mostly coffee and sushi.
Glitchesarecool
Member
disclaimer: I haven't listened to today's talk because I can't download it yet.
I think we understand that it is going to be the next big thing, and that's not where the problem of their VR talk lies. It lies in the fact that since fucking E3 we've been hearing about VR in very vague, hard to describe terms. They talk about how amazing their experiences are but you can't point to a video to even get a basic idea of it. Coupled with the expense of the damn things (the cheapest option is $500 for the PSVR, assuming you don't have the camera/move; let's not even get started on the PC options) and slim pickings when it comes to games, you have a system that excludes a huge chunk of the population.
So yeah, I'm tired of them talking about VR. VR is super neat, but it's something that super won't be on my radar for probably a good decade or two. From how Vinny reacted on the Beastcast, I'm not the only one who shares this sentiment. Here's hoping it doesn't implode on itself in the meantime; with so many competing options, I can only imagine the marketplace is a nightmare.
Not in the US it won't. The console market would lose so many people if a console went digital only.
I think we understand that it is going to be the next big thing, and that's not where the problem of their VR talk lies. It lies in the fact that since fucking E3 we've been hearing about VR in very vague, hard to describe terms. They talk about how amazing their experiences are but you can't point to a video to even get a basic idea of it. Coupled with the expense of the damn things (the cheapest option is $500 for the PSVR, assuming you don't have the camera/move; let's not even get started on the PC options) and slim pickings when it comes to games, you have a system that excludes a huge chunk of the population.
So yeah, I'm tired of them talking about VR. VR is super neat, but it's something that super won't be on my radar for probably a good decade or two. From how Vinny reacted on the Beastcast, I'm not the only one who shares this sentiment. Here's hoping it doesn't implode on itself in the meantime; with so many competing options, I can only imagine the marketplace is a nightmare.
You better tell the to the collective video game industry, because it's happening regardless.
The video game digital future isn't some game press echo chamber.
Not in the US it won't. The console market would lose so many people if a console went digital only.
IT TASTES VERY VERY GOOD
AND IT'S LITERALLY CANDY
I mean, most Breakfast Cereal is sugary nonsense that really shouldn't make the crux of your meal.
I still eat it, but it's hilarious to see how this shit is sold as anything other than candy.
#FollowTheMoney #TonyTheTigerChemtrails
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Goddamn millenials
excuse you
I've seen that commercial in my youth
I was just agreeing with you, it's not meme monday.
Look man, I've had that entire commercial memorized for twenty years, I finally saw my chance, and you left me hanging.excuse you
I've seen that commercial in my youth
I was just agreeing with you, it's not meme monday.
I don't think I've eaten cereal in years.
Like, my breakfast nowadays is mostly coffee and sushi.
Honeynut Cherrios and Chex are the best. Raisin Bran also is godly.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
So yeah, I'm tired of them talking about VR. VR is super neat, but it's something that super won't be on my radar for probably a good decade or two. From how Vinny reacted on the Beastcast, I'm not the only one who shares this sentiment. Here's hoping it doesn't implode on itself in the meantime; with so many competing options, I can only imagine the marketplace is a nightmare.
My read on Vinny was more him being concerned about people complaining about VR talk rather than being tired of VR talk himself. He seems the most excited for VR of the beastcrew.
Goddamn millenials
I remember this commercial.
Also, what kinda lie is the whole "part of this complete balanced breakfast" shit that cereal commercials always did? Like, yo I gotta catch the bus in 20 minutes and my mom has to go to work. Who has the time for cereal, eggs, toast, an orange, a muffin, and a glass of juice?
Glitchesarecool
Member
My read on Vinny was more him being concerned about people complaining about VR talk rather than being tired of VR talk himself. He seems the most excited for VR of the beastcrew.
Yes that's what I meant. He was reacting to feedback.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Yes that's what I meant.
Ah alright.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Look man, I've had that entire commercial memorized for twenty years, I finally saw my chance, and you left me hanging.
Yare yare..
I used to like Oreo O's but my mom would never buy them and when I had the freedom to buy my own cereal, they were discontinued.
Did your mom actually ban all sugary cereal or did the connection to the cookie just damn that one specifically?
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