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Girl/Dating Age Part 2: A combined effort to give advice for those in need
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Ether_Snake said:
More than likely. As I said in my post, I have the worst memory in world. I got an email today from a professor telling me the final paper for her grad school literacy course wasn't exactly what she was looking for from me. A paper I had submitted 2 days ago. A paper I can't remember AT ALL. Like not a fucking word. I was utterly confused.
I'm pretty sure I have been posting the same 10 things on gaf for the last year over and over. I just keep forgetting I have posted it already.
DualShadow
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siddx said:
:lol
So true though.
grap3fruitman
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I should be glad that only men find me attractive? I lied; fat and ugly chicks seem to always like me for some reason. =\Xun said:
grap3fruitman said:
Less attractive girls have to be more aggressive with men to be able to compete with other prettier girls. Which means you typically know when an unattractive girl likes you. Cause she's going to be drunkenly rubbing up against you and in your face whether you showed her any interest or not. I have literally told an obnoxious ugly and overweight girl to get the fuck out of my face and she acted like I told her she was the most beautiful thing in the world.
industrian
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CrushDance said:
CrushDance
This sh!t needs to stop
(Today, 04:50 AM)
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You have absolutely nothing to lose. Go for it now.
Fuck...
Talked to the girl from last night. Asked her how she was. She gave me the whole "you're nice, but we didn't click" and the "its not you, it's me" bullshit. She insisted that I was funny, smart, charming, confident and all around nice guy, but didn't really feel any chemistry. Bitch could have fooled me. We sat there for hours having a great conversation and enjoying ourselves. I asked her if she had a good time and if she wanted to go out again. She said yes with no hesitation. She said she had second thoughts and assured me that I'm an incredible guy and deserve a really great girl...Yeah yeah yeah.... So I don't know the fuck that is about. But hey, I've been through this shit a million times, but it doesn't change how utterly obnoxious and frustrating it is. Them females a trip man...
Ah fuck it. I got more dates later this week. Plus, I got tons of booze. Hello Ms. Yuengling. Hola senorita Bacardi. Tonight's gonna be fun. Hopefully my date on Wednesday doesn't pull this same shit.
Talked to the girl from last night. Asked her how she was. She gave me the whole "you're nice, but we didn't click" and the "its not you, it's me" bullshit. She insisted that I was funny, smart, charming, confident and all around nice guy, but didn't really feel any chemistry. Bitch could have fooled me. We sat there for hours having a great conversation and enjoying ourselves. I asked her if she had a good time and if she wanted to go out again. She said yes with no hesitation. She said she had second thoughts and assured me that I'm an incredible guy and deserve a really great girl...Yeah yeah yeah.... So I don't know the fuck that is about. But hey, I've been through this shit a million times, but it doesn't change how utterly obnoxious and frustrating it is. Them females a trip man...
Ah fuck it. I got more dates later this week. Plus, I got tons of booze. Hello Ms. Yuengling. Hola senorita Bacardi. Tonight's gonna be fun. Hopefully my date on Wednesday doesn't pull this same shit.
-PXG- said:
I hope that includes making out. Listen, fellas, I don't we want to hear it, but if you let the woman, she will talk...forever and nothing will happen. Trust me, I've experienced it recently. You won't talk your way into her pants; this requires action. You must lead because she, with all her make up, pretty clothes, nice shoes, etc, will not lean over and kiss you.
Look at it this way, fellas: If it's been a great night, time to stress test the relationships built between you and the girl. If she rebukes, then you didn't build enough comfort or she's not physical enough for you. This will weed out woman with personalities that are not congruent to yours and save you a lot of heartache in the long run.
Door2Dawn said:
Well, I hate being lied to and lead on. Just be honest and tell me straight up that you don't want to see me again. Don't act all happy and having a good time, and say out right "yeah sure, we should do this again later in the week" blah blah blah. Don't lie to my face bitch. Plain and simple. Fuck that noise. And don't be all like "its not you, its me". Fuck you. If I'm dumb, tell me. Boring? Tell me. Fat? tell me. Too nerdy? tell me. I'm a pussy, too cocky? Or whatever. Just fucking tell me. I'm a big boy, I can handle it. Just don't bullshit. Don't say one thing one moment and do a 180 the next. Shit...
And yes, I already have a few beers in me at the moment. So yeah...
-PXG- said:
That sucks man. I'm sorry that she doesn't find you attractive, I'm sure the next one will though. It's hard to take rejection over your looks without feeling like shit but looks are the most subjective aspect of all attraction. One girl will think you are ugly as dog dick, the next will think you are the hottest guy she's ever met.
And remember FUCK BITCHES GET MONEY.
Mr.City said:
I was conservative with my physical game. She was on the shyer side. I gave her a peck on the cheek which she liked. But I knew anything else would have freaked her the fuck out. She said I didn't do one thing wrong. She said I was fucking great and that she had a wonderful time. I just hate it when they do this shit. Just messes you up....Eh whatever. Fuck her.
siddx said:That sucks man. I'm sorry that she doesn't find you attractive, I'm sure the next one will though. It's hard to take rejection over your looks without feeling like shit but looks are the most subjective aspect of all attraction. One girl will think you are ugly as dog dick, the next will think you are the hottest guy she's ever met.
And remember FUCK BITCHES GET MONEY.
Nah man. She said I looked good. She said I was really handsome. I mean what? I went through that shit last night with flying fucking colors. And then BAM, this shit.
But hey, bitches do illogical shit like this ALL the fucking time. I'm used to it, but it still sucks donkey balls. Whatevs.
And yes, women are my Achilles heal. They fuck you up man. Gotta get paid before gettin' laid :lol
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-PXG- said:
You are not alpha enough to her I'm guessing.
I hate those fucking games, but this is how this shit works most the time.
Ether_Snake said:
Actually, I think I was too assertive. Not creepy or clingy. I'm just really cooled out. I guess she thought I was too cocky or something. I don't know. She was kind of mousy/ shy. She I guess that turned her off.
But hey, tomorrow is another day. Got another date planned for Wednesday with another girl. A new day, new date, new situation, new girl, new opportunity. Remember guys, keep your heads up. Don't dwell on failures too much.
Look at this way...it's her fucking loss. She could have had a nice, sweet, confident, smart guy. Plus, got stuffed with some big black cock too. Oh well..she dumb.
Door2Dawn said:
Because she wasted both her and his time by not being upfront from the start and letting him know it wasn't going to happen. Neither of them is out and about looking to make buddies to play dolls with. They are out looking for sex and/or relationships. She let him go on and on with no intention of it ever going anywhere. It's frustrating and a waste of time. For both him and her.
-PXG- said:
From as As Good As It Gets with Jack Nickelson
Receptionist: I can't resist! You usually move through here so quickly and I just have so many questions I want to ask you. You have no idea what your work means to me.
Melvin Udall: What does it mean to you?
Receptionist: [stands up] When somebody out there knows what it's like...
[place one hand on her forehead and the other over her heart]
Receptionist: ... to be in here.
Melvin Udall: Oh God, this is like a nightmare.
[Turns around and presses the elevator button multiple times]
Receptionist: Oh come on! Just a couple of questions. How hard is that?
[Scampers up to Melvin]
Receptionist: How do you write women so well?
Melvin Udall: I think of a man, and I take away reason and accountability.
But really, as someone in the PUA community put it best, you should disregard what women say. It boils down to if she wants to see you again/fuck you. If she doesn't want to or suggest that may be somewhere down the road, wipe the slate clean and try again.
siddx said:
Thank you.
I would have been cool if she just said so last night. But she told me (after I contacted her remember) that she had to THINK about it, let it settle in, and then tell me (again, after I contacted) that she didn't think we clicked. What kind of shit is that? You had to THINK about it. Let that shit sink in? Come on. You know in like a few minutes whether you like the person or not. Her dumb ass friends probably said some shit. I don't know. I don't care either. Girl could have gotten some brown sugar...but she ended up being ons South Beach.
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I said it before, even if I'm not a success with the girls the glass is crystal clear: it's all about self-esteem. They don't want to walk up the confidence ladder, they're scared of heights, but they'll ride along in your flying car any time. If you make any move to push them up the ladder, they'll panic and see it as a form of assault. You have to be on top and they'll gladly raise their hands to you. That's how it works in most girls' heads, especially the young ones. They want to win the race but they don't want to drive, so they're looking for the best driver.
Once they dismiss you, whatever they say is random, can't trust a word of it.
Once they dismiss you, whatever they say is random, can't trust a word of it.
Ether_Snake said:
That's some Malcom X shit right there. Assalamu alaikum brother.
Oh yes, my advice for when shit hits the fan...find a vice? Games, booze, weed...pussy? Do that til you forget about what went wrong. I sure am. Tomorrow I won't remember her fucking name. I be like "who dat?"
DualShadow
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EzLink said:
It only applies to when your trying to "pick-up". I think once you get into a relationship you can use that advice at your own judgment :lol
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EzLink said:
Women shouldn't be trusted? No. But in the context of the whole matting dance routine? You have to recognize that there aren't two matting dances among humans, and they're following the steps.
TheVampire
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OK so i love your profile. Seriously, it's a
winner, and you seem like a champ. We
should talk. You know where to find me.
Sam.
-I knew redoing my profile as a more honest / nice guy would work!
winner, and you seem like a champ. We
should talk. You know where to find me.
Sam.
-I knew redoing my profile as a more honest / nice guy would work!
Ether_Snake
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TheVampire said:
Sadly, you have been contacted by a man named Sam.
Word to both of the above.
I can tell you this much. The onlly time I have a 100% success rate is when I don't really like the girl all that much :lol
I am not a big enough prick to be completely rude to a girl who I am not entirely into, but I'm just enough of a jerk to interact with her in a way that screams "not really into you, but I'll still talk to you/fuck you."
Luckily once in a while I end up really liking some of these girls. The one i'm kind of seeing now started out as a "whatever, not into you but ill sleep with you" and I ended up finding out that she is cool as shit and I enjoy spending time with her.
On my part, I just don't trust women due to past experience. I'm not saying it is right, or ok, or the way to go. But it has served me well to have been burned enough times to have "don't trust her" as my default. I am a naturally suspicious guy though.
I can tell you this much. The onlly time I have a 100% success rate is when I don't really like the girl all that much :lol
I am not a big enough prick to be completely rude to a girl who I am not entirely into, but I'm just enough of a jerk to interact with her in a way that screams "not really into you, but I'll still talk to you/fuck you."
Luckily once in a while I end up really liking some of these girls. The one i'm kind of seeing now started out as a "whatever, not into you but ill sleep with you" and I ended up finding out that she is cool as shit and I enjoy spending time with her.
EzLink said:
On my part, I just don't trust women due to past experience. I'm not saying it is right, or ok, or the way to go. But it has served me well to have been burned enough times to have "don't trust her" as my default. I am a naturally suspicious guy though.
Shy girls suck. I mean, in general, we (guys) have to take initiative. But with a shy girl, you take too much or go too fast, she freaks the fuck out. I mean, she seemed totally into me, but still kind of shy. I really wanted to kiss her on the lips, but I felt it would freak her out. So I hugged her and gave her one on the cheek. She turned bright red, giggled and smiled. So I don't know.
Females be mad crazy with them mixed messages. They'll act like the want to slobber all over your dick, but inside, they fucking hate you. Yeah, that is hyperbolic, but I hope you get my point. So yeah, never believe what a girl says. Ever. Take that shit with a a grain..no...a fucking molecule of salt. Don't believe any shit she does or says. They will stop at nothing to fuck with you. Everything they do is goddamn test.
They test us because they know we want to fuck them. It in our blood, its in our minds. We can't help it. It's nature. We can't fight it. Because of that, they have to be very selective of what guy gets to fuck them. So they do all of these mind games and tests. Whoever passes all of them gets pussy. Those who fail, don't get shit. Plain and simple.
So the girl from last night, I failed one of her tests. Trying to find out what it is, so in the future I pass that shit. It's the motherfucking SAT's but harder :lol Problem is, she won't tell me. AAAAAAAH!!!
Females be mad crazy with them mixed messages. They'll act like the want to slobber all over your dick, but inside, they fucking hate you. Yeah, that is hyperbolic, but I hope you get my point. So yeah, never believe what a girl says. Ever. Take that shit with a a grain..no...a fucking molecule of salt. Don't believe any shit she does or says. They will stop at nothing to fuck with you. Everything they do is goddamn test.
They test us because they know we want to fuck them. It in our blood, its in our minds. We can't help it. It's nature. We can't fight it. Because of that, they have to be very selective of what guy gets to fuck them. So they do all of these mind games and tests. Whoever passes all of them gets pussy. Those who fail, don't get shit. Plain and simple.
So the girl from last night, I failed one of her tests. Trying to find out what it is, so in the future I pass that shit. It's the motherfucking SAT's but harder :lol Problem is, she won't tell me. AAAAAAAH!!!
After the absolute hell I went through with the last girl, maybe being suspicious of motives will end up serving me well. Not that anything that went wrong with my last love interest had anything to do with trust or honesty, but it was rather that I get attached strongly and quickly. I've vowed to do my damnedest to not let that happen to me again, so maybe defaulting to assuming the lady isn't being totally honest could prove to be, at the very least, a helpful defense mechanism against getting invested in something that isn't realistic or possible
EzLink said:
Well the thing is nobody is being entirely honest when they meet anyone, especially when they have sexual or romantic intentions. We paint ourselves a certain way to come across the best way possible that will make the other person want to smash crotches together. So in the majority of cases, every relationship, casual or serious, is formed on dishonesty. Sometimes its something little like she doesn't really like your favorite band or movie. Sometimes its huge like she has a boyfriend already. But in almost every case, she (and he) is lying about something.
The Shadow
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I eagerly await Crush's update. I swear, reading that, I'm thinking some people are just freaking hopeless. I mean, he didn't even need to approach her. She came on to him, strongly and obviously....and he just kinda blows it off.
Oy dude. Just trying to understand your position by asking questions. You seem to think I'm implying one thing or another with each of my replies. I'm just trying to get an idea here!
Anyway, your idea of how a relationship is and what a girlfriend is kinda screwy. I know you say all your friends have relationships like that but I'll be first to tell you that is definitely not typical. Besides, a girl is only as clingy as her BF lets her. If they let their girlfriends hang out with them even on a guy's night out, it's more on them IMO.
Tkawsome said:
Oy dude. Just trying to understand your position by asking questions. You seem to think I'm implying one thing or another with each of my replies. I'm just trying to get an idea here!
Anyway, your idea of how a relationship is and what a girlfriend is kinda screwy. I know you say all your friends have relationships like that but I'll be first to tell you that is definitely not typical. Besides, a girl is only as clingy as her BF lets her. If they let their girlfriends hang out with them even on a guy's night out, it's more on them IMO.
industrian
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Whilst living in a hostel in August, I met a girl who was travelling and got to know her better (talking, sharing photos of me in Scotland, Korea, etc and then went out with her to dinner with her & her friends.) I talked to her more on MSN until November because she lives on the other side of the country. She recently got a job in my city and we had a few more dates until Saturday.
Long story short, I've now got a girlfriend by being a nice guy. Not to say I acted like a bitch or anything: I made her laugh, feel wanted and generally acted like a man - taking the initiative when it came to being physical but at the same time I told her stuff about me that could have seen me friendzoned into oblivion.
Now comes the fun part about her telling her parents she's with a white guy. :lol
Long story short, I've now got a girlfriend by being a nice guy. Not to say I acted like a bitch or anything: I made her laugh, feel wanted and generally acted like a man - taking the initiative when it came to being physical but at the same time I told her stuff about me that could have seen me friendzoned into oblivion.
Now comes the fun part about her telling her parents she's with a white guy. :lol
The Shadow
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industrian said:
Congrats and good for you!
Just to make a point though, it wasn't because you were a "nice guy", it was because you showed interest in her as more than just a friend. Traditionally guys that call themselves "nice guys" don't do that and quickly get friendzoned. That's a huge difference.
But yeah, you can be a nice guy, be sensitive and still get a girlfriend, provided you're not a pushover. That's the key.
TheVampire
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GAF how long should I chat to a girl on a dating site before asking her out to meet?
I chatted to this girl today for about 1 hour on POF and then MSN and we really hit it off but im not sure when to ask to meet up.
Should I wait another day or two of chatting before asking?
I chatted to this girl today for about 1 hour on POF and then MSN and we really hit it off but im not sure when to ask to meet up.
Should I wait another day or two of chatting before asking?
TheVampire said:
An hour. Way too soon. That's creep territory right there if you ask. Talk to her for another day or two, then ask her out on a date.
Norwegian Wood said:
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Norwegian Wood said:
Watch out for those angles man. Don't get fooled by them :lol But hey, big girls can be sexy too, as long as they're well proportioned. I have couple of close female friends who have some extra meat on them, but they aren't built like blobs. They still have an elegant, hour glass curve. Oh, and big ass titties too. I'd fuck 'em...what?
Ether_Snake
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My house is a fucking mess. I hope I can find a decent place and move out a few months from now, cause obviously buying something is out of the question at the price houses are at around here and I got too much to build on a personal level to shrink my ability to spend money on what I want at this moment in my life, but I'm hoping I can make that move a cornerstone to change my life for the best. Things are better now than ever, but clearly far from what I'd consider myself. I want a place that I'd be happy bringing a girl over to. I gotta stop being such a mess myself, gotta keep things in order. The appearance of your home is a reflection of your mind. Well mine is an empty mess.
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siddx said:
Oh man, I don't know if I should be sorry for you or relieved because I now know I'm not alone, haha.
On another note, CrushDance, you are GAF's worst idiot if you don't do anything about that girl as soon as possible. I mean, I've never posted in this thread (or the previous one) but did it just to tell you that. She sounds cute and lively as hell, yet shy enough that it's charming. AND she's all over you. Don't think twice, and go ahead, son.
I've been refraining this story of mine, but since Crush's oblivious behaviour made me post, I might as well share it:
I'll spoil the ending: got rejected, but that's not important.
The important part is that I had the guts to ask the girl out and not wait for too long before doing it. Long story short I'm in Japan (she's Japanese) for a year and met her in a girl friend's room (she was supposed to help us with our Japanese homework). Fast forward two weeks later and one or two parties (old Super Famicom games parties, to be precise) later, I ride her home (riding bikes) because it was not very far away, it was late and not safe. I ask her out for a date. Got something like "I don't know. Never thought about it that way. We haven't known each other for long, I don't know much about you, and for now you're just one friend among all my friends". I mean, can't argue with that, she has a point, plus to be honest I haven't talked to her much. Parties aren't the best way to have long one-on-one talks, and I have trouble knowing what to talk about with her.
Whatever, the point is that I'm happy I asked her out, and while I'm just a friend, I don't get the impression that she is 100% rejecting me. At least she's perfectly fine with going out with me alone as friends, and she hasn't been avoiding me ever since. People usually do that when they're asked out by someone they're not interested in, don't they? I guess at least it shows some kind of maturity on her part. Now, I might have gone a little bit too fast, but the upside is that because of that I wasn't too attached yet, so getting rejected wasn't painful.
Now, it's been a while since that time, and to be honest I haven't made much progress, if at all, partly because I've been busy, partly because I didn't want to make her uncomfortable considering what happened, but we still hang out together at parties without it being awkward in the slightest.
Now, here is my question to GAF, especially J-GAF: what do you know about Japanese women? What's your experience been? Are they just too freaking polite to act awkward and avoid guys they rejected? She seemed a bit different to me, in that she's lively without being too kawaii (not my thing) and tactile to a degree, something that, from my experience at least, is rare when it comes to Japanese girls.
Mr.City said:
Damn you move fast. For me, it depends on the girl. The girl I'm seeing on Wednesday asked me if I wanted to go out. I was planning on asker her, but she beat me to it. I guess I'm lucky
She seems cool and really excited.Ether_Snake said:
Broom, mop, dust pan, Windex, rags, garbage bags. Thank me later.
-PXG- said:Damn you move fast. For me, it depends on the girl. The girl I'm seeing on Wednesday asked me if I wanted to go out. I was planning on asker her, but she beat me to it. I guess I'm lucky
She's getting messaged by 3-4 other dudes while you're taking your sweet time. You want to take this convo to text/phone to real life (preferably straight to real light) toot suite.
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The Shadow said:
And I'm clarifying my position. How will you get an idea if I don't explain the situation?
The Shadow said:
You say that, but so far I have yet to see a relationship run any other way. Like you said, you get a good impression by watching the people around you, right?
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