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[Cubsfan23]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kagsXFrFPiM&feature=player_embedded#t=0s

 

[Blader]

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What are your intentions with this girl? Because if you just want to hook up or something, then what the hell, go for it. But if you're looking for some kind of relationship, then stop wasting your time.

 

[The Elite]

Things are getting bad in the US in the dating scene. Feminism and the "men are all idiots that don't deserve a princess like you" attitudes of the culture have raised a generation of ugly women (not talking about physical beauty) who have a laundry list of expectations and demands before they will even talk to you. Add to it the "hook-up" culture and women who are willing and able to wait in line for just a piece of the top tier guys equals a whole lot of guys who end up getting noone.

After living in other countries, I've reached the conclusion that the problem hasn't been me all this time. Not that I'm blameless as I have my own issues, but women in other countries don't have unrealistic expectations. I can be a nice guy without being seen as weak. I can approach women without being seen as "creepy". (which is a very unfortunate word that has proliferated the vocabulary of the Western world)

Why should I jump through so many hoops for the chance at a used up woman who's going to divorce me as soon as things become "too tough" because it is too financially advantageous for her in the American court system to stay with me? And if you have a child? Forget about it. Loss of visitation and paying for child support without the capability to determine how that money is spent while she poisons the mind of your children against you. And it's way more fun at mom's house than dad's because dad is broke and mom gets to spend all his money on providing a fun and nice home. Lose your job and unable to make the child support payments? That will be automatic prison for contempt of court without ever seeing a judge.

50% divorce rate with 80% of those divorces being initiated by the woman in the US. Why is that? Because the feminist court system will reward her with everything she desires.

Why is it that the guys in the US and other Western nations need a "girl/dating age" thread for advice? It's not the guys, it's the culture that has ruined the dating scene and has turned femininity into something to be avoided and twisted into rule over men.

People live in social bubbles now. The only way to meet women is through friends, in school, or at work. Bars/clubs? Forget about it, that's where you will need the PUA mentality to compete with the many Jersey Shore wannabe "alpha" males (which would be simply considered selfish assholes in other countries). Do you even know who your neighbors are? Could you walk up to a stranger and strike up a conversation or is it considered taboo? The rest of the world doesn't exist in this environment, yet in the US, the people think that their culture is the best and that the US is number 1.

It's simply not the truth at all. We live in an extremely racist, morally corrupt, greedy, selfish, and socially broken society being ran by people who want to keep you enslaved with debt.

I've served this country (US Navy) for 19 years now, and seeing other cultures first hand has left me with a first hand view of what the US has become. I'm glad to be American because of what I have and how easy it is for me to travel anywhere I want with little in passport and visa restrictions. But I don't have a desire to permanently live in the US again.

I don't want to live in a world where I need a thread like this to help me find a girlfriend.

Did you get shot down?

So what are women in other cultures like? Can you give more specifics? Instead of griping about women in the US, I'd like to hear more about your successes around the world and maybe put some thoughtful analysis into the differences between US women and everyone else. It would be better than the rant you just posted.

 

[Loki]

Not saying he's absolutely correct on every count, but having traveled some, there is DEFINITELY a difference in how women comport themselves, how approachable and receptive they are to romantic overtures or conversation in general etc. in the tri-state area (NY/NJ/CT) versus in the mid-west, south etc. - never mind other countries.

Other friends of mine have noted this as well. Keep in mind that I have good success with the ladies here in NYC, so this isn't forever-alone GAF talking out of bitterness or anything - but you'd have to be blind to not see that this is true. There is definitely an entitlement attitude and an air of snobbishness on the part of many women here in NYC. You have a shitload of 6's and 7's thinking that they're 9's and 10's over here lol.

 

[TurboLibre]

Things are getting bad in the US in the dating scene. Feminism and the "men are all idiots that don't deserve a princess like you" attitudes of the culture have raised a generation of ugly women (not talking about physical beauty) who have a laundry list of expectations and demands before they will even talk to you.

I agree with a lot of your post, but I just want to say that it's not feminism that's causing this. Feminism would say both parties share the responsibilities equally, which would encourage women to put the same amount of work into finding a relationship. What we're talking about here is a sense of entitlement a lot of women have. They feel they deserve to have a guy approach them, ask for their number, ask them out, pay for food/drinks, and all that jazz without making any sort of effort themselves. They deserve all this because they're marginally attractive. I was just listening to my roommate talk to one of her friends last night and she said a man has to earn their attention. Earn. Like they're so special we have to prove we're worthy to talk to them. Then they went on to talk about how women deserved to be wined and dined, constantly complemented, treated like queens. I almost blew a gasket.

 

[soultron]

There is definitely an entitlement attitude and an air of snobbishness on the part of many women here in NYC. You have a shitload of 6's and 7's thinking that they're 9's and 10's over here lol.

How is any of what we're doing in here any different? We're only trying to get people to assess and recognize their own self-worth. If a woman wants to do the same to get a certain type of result in her life, more power to her.

 

[U n i o n 0015]

Things are getting bad in the US in the dating scene. Feminism and the "men are all idiots that don't deserve a princess like you" attitudes of the culture have raised a generation of ugly women (not talking about physical beauty) who have a laundry list of expectations and demands before they will even talk to you. Add to it the "hook-up" culture and women who are willing and able to wait in line for just a piece of the top tier guys equals a whole lot of guys who end up getting noone.

After living in other countries, I've reached the conclusion that the problem hasn't been me all this time. Not that I'm blameless as I have my own issues, but women in other countries don't have unrealistic expectations. I can be a nice guy without being seen as weak. I can approach women without being seen as "creepy". (which is a very unfortunate word that has proliferated the vocabulary of the Western world)

Why should I jump through so many hoops for the chance at a used up woman who's going to divorce me as soon as things become "too tough" because it is too financially advantageous for her in the American court system to stay with me? And if you have a child? Forget about it. Loss of visitation and paying for child support without the capability to determine how that money is spent while she poisons the mind of your children against you. And it's way more fun at mom's house than dad's because dad is broke and mom gets to spend all his money on providing a fun and nice home. Lose your job and unable to make the child support payments? That will be automatic prison for contempt of court without ever seeing a judge.

50% divorce rate with 80% of those divorces being initiated by the woman in the US. Why is that? Because the feminist court system will reward her with everything she desires.

Why is it that the guys in the US and other Western nations need a "girl/dating age" thread for advice? It's not the guys, it's the culture that has ruined the dating scene and has turned femininity into something to be avoided and twisted into rule over men.

People live in social bubbles now. The only way to meet women is through friends, in school, or at work. Bars/clubs? Forget about it, that's where you will need the PUA mentality to compete with the many Jersey Shore wannabe "alpha" males (which would be simply considered selfish assholes in other countries). Do you even know who your neighbors are? Could you walk up to a stranger and strike up a conversation or is it considered taboo? The rest of the world doesn't exist in this environment, yet in the US, the people think that their culture is the best and that the US is number 1.

It's simply not the truth at all. We live in an extremely racist, morally corrupt, greedy, selfish, and socially broken society being ran by people who want to keep you enslaved with debt.

I've served this country (US Navy) for 19 years now, and seeing other cultures first hand has left me with a first hand view of what the US has become. I'm glad to be American because of what I have and how easy it is for me to travel anywhere I want with little in passport and visa restrictions. But I don't have a desire to permanently live in the US again.

I don't want to live in a world where I need a thread like this to help me find a girlfriend.

Brav-fuggin-O! Holy lord what a great post.

You're right; this thread shouldn't even exist.

All this internet talk about how you have to be alpha and act this way and blah blah, it's all BS.

I'm going to bet that there's a lot of guys in here who are decently attractive, pretty normal dudes in real life. But you're running uphill against a society that has turned on you. If you're an educated, single male in an urban environment, you're screwed compared to your female counterpart. You make less money and have less dating prospects.

20% of the males are having 80% of the sex. The rest of us are sitting on the sidelines.

Great post, should be stickied.

 

[Locke_211]

I wonder if 'more receptive to romantic overture' just means 'more submissive'.

 

[soultron]

Brav-fuggin-O! Holy lord what a great post.

You're right; this thread shouldn't even exist.

All this internet talk about how you have to be alpha and act this way and blah blah, it's all BS.

Saying this thread needs not exist is a bit of a stretch. This thread has pushed some people to go out there and get what they want. I'd say that's worth something.

Not all of us in here are saying you have to be "alpha and act this way."

 

[samus i am]

There's a lot of bitter people in this thread. You think because you met a few girls that acted that way, it means that EVERY girl acts that way?

 

[The Elite]

There's a lot of bitter people in this thread. You think because you met a few girls that acted that way, it means that EVERY girl acts that way?

BigDug's post does come off as bitter but I certainly do find that the differences in women across cultures wrings true. It would be crazy to think otherwise. From my personal perspective, I don't think I get along that well with the "big city" girl. But that has as much to do with my attitude as much as theirs.

I try to get along with everyone though.

 

[The Elite]

As a Canadian, I find women from the West Coast of Canada to be a lot more receptive to an approach and having fun than many women from Toronto. There's a completely different vibe. There are great women in Toronto, don't get me wrong, but the women I've connected with the most have always been west coast/Vancouver or from Europe. Many Toronto women just seem dismissive.

I'm not talking just relationship/sex wise as well. I tend to grow closer ties with women outside this city than a lot who were born and raised here.

*edit: Fuck, I didn't mean to quote. Just edit.

 

[U n i o n 0015]

Saying this thread needs not exist is a bit of a stretch. This thread has pushed some people to go out there and get what they want. I'd say that's worth something.

Not all of us in here are saying you have to be "alpha and act this way."

The key word I used is shouldn't. I'm glad it's here, I wish it didn't have to be.

As recent as 40 years ago, most "baseline" normal guys would've had no problem meeting a girl who would enjoy a relationship with them.

This thread is the symptom of a growing problem.

 

[SpectreFire]

How is any of what we're doing in here any different? We're only trying to get people to assess and recognize their own self-worth. If a woman wants to do the same to get a certain type of result in her life, more power to her.

But the problem are people who have little to no self worth pretending that they do. Telling people straight up to think that they're great and any girl/guy who tells you otherwise isn't worth your time isn't always the best advice, because a lot of people aren't great. They're terrible people, and the reason why others won't date them is honestly a result of their own lack of worthy rather than a lack of recognition of their worth.

It's the whole fat girl attitude problem. You see plenty of fat girls on dating sites with ridiculous expectations. It's one thing to reach for something out of your range, it's another to be completely oblivious to your range. The same thing happens with guys. I'm willing to bet that half the guys here are having dating problems, because they're honestly not good enough to be in a relationship, not because they're not recognizing their worth. People don't give other people enough shit about things. There are guys here who are kind of shitty, but instead of giving them shit, we've got posters telling them that it's the girls fault and that they should just find someone better.

 

[The Elite]

The key word I used is shouldn't. I'm glad it's here, I wish it didn't have to be.

As recent as 40 years ago, most "baseline" normal guys would've had no problem meeting a girl who would enjoy a relationship with them.
This thread is the symptom of a growing problem.

I've thought about this and I just don't know. I'm sure guys back then had their own set of problems to deal with. It was a very different world though.

 

[All Hail C-Webb]

I've liked this girl the last few months. She told me she had a boyfriend, so we've just been 'friends.' I introduced her to my best friend the other day (he said he wanted to wingman for me), and now he's taking her out this weekend.

I thought my confidence had been at an all time low... what little did I know.

 

[samus i am]

The key word I used is shouldn't. I'm glad it's here, I wish it didn't have to be.

As recent as 40 years ago, most "baseline" normal guys would've had no problem meeting a girl who would enjoy a relationship with them.

This thread is the symptom of a growing problem.

What are you basing this on?

 

[U n i o n 0015]

What are you basing this on?

Compare marriage rates between then and now.

 

[The Elite]

I've liked this girl the last few months. She told me she had a boyfriend, so we've just been 'friends.' I introduced her to my best friend the other day (he said he wanted to wingman for me), and now he's taking her out this weekend.

I thought my confidence had been at an all time low... what little did I know.

That's a shitty break.

 

[Jenga]

I've liked this girl the last few months. She told me she had a boyfriend, so we've just been 'friends.' I introduced her to my best friend the other day (he said he wanted to wingman for me), and now he's taking her out this weekend.

I thought my confidence had been at an all time low... what little did I know.

drop her and find new pussy

oh and don't be jealous, at least in front of her

like if she asks you about him don't go all mean girls or something, it'll make you look like a bitch and your friend like an alpha all the other guys envy

 

[soultron]

I've liked this girl the last few months. She told me she had a boyfriend, so we've just been 'friends.' I introduced her to my best friend the other day (he said he wanted to wingman for me), and now he's taking her out this weekend.

I thought my confidence had been at an all time low... what little did I know.

It's time to talk to your friend about being an ass. If he respects you, he'll understand, apologize, and back down.

Before you do that though, why did you agree to engage a taken women? You know that's a dumb move, right? Does your friend even know that you're interested and/or that she's taken?

 

[lawlohwhat]

nonsense

wtf is all this pessimistic bullshit being posted here. Women who value themselves highly should be celebrated. Don't take it out on them because you don't magically possess the lock and key for their vagina. The fact that you're evaluating someone's worth based on a 1-10 number scale of physical attractiveness is reason enough to dismiss what you're saying altogether, but since it's so easy to latch onto these types of excuses (as we're seeing people do when they're quoting this awful post), I feel obligated to reply.

If you are able to have a real organic conversation with someone, then you will be subconsciously evaluated on the direction your life is going, your experiences therefrom, and your level of confidence in your own abilities. That is why you get accepted or shot down. It's not necessarily the content of what you're saying, but how you're saying it and how approachable you are, which is something that cannot be faked. People are generally friendly and will talk to you. If they are refusing to talk to you, it is likely your fault. This applies to attractive people, rich people, poor people, whatever. The exceptions are when someone is having a bad day or is just a dick, but they are in the vast minority.

If women have high standards and/or just want to hook up, then all the more power to them. Guys have been doing this FOREVER and a lot of women this generation are catching on to the power of self-assertiveness and non-attachment. Posts like this are just the predictable pushback from people who are heavily invested in the masculine power structure that is threatened by confident women. The response is to lash out and blame everyone else.

Why do you think that genuinely friendly people have so much social currency to work with? It's because they don't engage in these hateful, insecure, sexist diatribes. The irony in calling American society bigoted is thick as a steak here.

 

[U n i o n 0015]

I've liked this girl the last few months. She told me she had a boyfriend, so we've just been 'friends.' I introduced her to my best friend the other day (he said he wanted to wingman for me), and now he's taking her out this weekend.

I thought my confidence had been at an all time low... what little did I know.

Wow, this blows. I don't do this, though, it's happened to me before. At the end of the day, even your guy friends are your competition, unless you're just totally not attracted to the same type of girl.

 

[SpectreFire]

I've liked this girl the last few months. She told me she had a boyfriend, so we've just been 'friends.' I introduced her to a giant douchenozzle the other day (he said he wanted to wingman for me), and now he's taking her out this weekend.

I thought my confidence had been at an all time low... what little did I know.

Fixed that for you.

 

[samus i am]

Compare marriage rates between then and now.

That doesn't really tell the whole story. In the old days people got married straight out of high school, these days they are waiting til their late 20s or early 30s. Also, it was taboo to divorce years ago but now it is the norm, which drops the marriage rate as well.

 

[soultron]

Compare marriage rates between then and now.

Here we go!

This is a can of worms I don't feel like opening up. In the end, we're not going to change either of our opinions.

 

[U n i o n 0015]

Here we go!

This is a can of worms I don't feel like opening up. In the end, we're not going to change either of our opinions.

Fair enough, it is a rather large can. But it's also a good indicator of how well people pair up.

The gender mix of the US is like 51/49 female/male yet I see an awful lot of guys struggling!

 

[All Hail C-Webb]

drop her and find new pussy

oh and don't be jealous, at least in front of her

like if she asks you about him don't go all mean girls or something, it'll make you look like a bitch and your friend like an alpha all the other guys envy

I'm not the jealous type, and I had no rights to her. That being said, he was a little drunk, and later told me if i had any problem with it, he wouldn't call her (I said there was no problem).

I'm more disappointed that she lied to me, and led me on a little. Had she been upfront, I would have moved on ages ago.

I want to call her out for lying, but I'll wait to give my boy a chance to get it in first.

Edit: By my friend doing what he did, I found out the truth about her, so I can't hate him for that.

 

[Blader]

I've liked this girl the last few months. She told me she had a boyfriend, so we've just been 'friends.' I introduced her to my best friend the other day (he said he wanted to wingman for me), and now he's taking her out this weekend.

I thought my confidence had been at an all time low... what little did I know.

Wtf, the exact same thing happened to me in high school

Yeah, he's not your friend and she's not worth your time. Move on.

 

[The Elite]

I'm not the jealous type, and I had no rights to her. That being said, he was a little drunk, and later told me if i had any problem with it, he wouldn't call her (I said there was no problem).

I'm more disappointed that she lied to me, and led me on a little. Had she been upfront, I would have moved on ages ago.

I want to call her out for lying, but I'll wait to give my boy a chance to get in first.

You have a good attitude about the whole thing. Probably better than I would have handled it.

 

[-ImaginaryInsider]

The key word I used is shouldn't. I'm glad it's here, I wish it didn't have to be.

As recent as 40 years ago, most "baseline" normal guys would've had no problem meeting a girl who would enjoy a relationship with them.

This thread is the symptom of a growing problem.

It's absolutely a growing problem. Women of this generation are stuck in between a gender role shake-up and have bipolar expectations of what a man should be.

 

[Spacebar]

So what you guys are saying is I should be able to go to Thailand and be swimming in pussy right?

 

[The Elite]

So what you guys are saying is I should be able to go to Thailand and be swimming in pussy right?

Absolutely.

 

[Spacebar]

Absolutely.

I'm not gonna go into this topic much further, but as long as you put in work to better yourself good things will come. I'm not gonna blame a country or a culture because I can't get what I want. I'm going to continue to go out and try to find the right girl

Spoiler

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I want to be with.

 

[jaxword]

Avoid.

Any particular reason you say that, or just a general feel?

What are your intentions with this girl? Because if you just want to hook up or something, then what the hell, go for it. But if you're looking for some kind of relationship, then stop wasting your time.

Ha, in all honesty it'll probably just be the hookup, I already really know there's no long term here. I probably should've just said "Hot but crazy girl who loves attention, go for it y/n" and saved time.

 

[All Hail C-Webb]

So what you guys are saying is I should be able to go to Thailand and be swimming in pussy right?

Even if you're paying for it, my friends said it's something like $20 a day.
Be sure to thoroughly examine her first to avoid a nasty surprise.

 

[MutantCyborg]

Does anyone have any ideas for something cute or thoughtful to do in my situation? I've never had this happen to me before.

I started dating this girl about 2 weeks ago, and this week she has been really sick. I haven't been able to see her this whole week except for a very brief moment today and she was definitively sick and she was a little sad because we had plans this week. What can I do when she is feeling better that she would appreciate? Sadly the plans that we had this week could not be rescheduled so they are out the window this month.

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

Does anyone have any ideas for something cute or thoughtful to do in my situation? I've never had this happen to me before.

I started dating this girl about 2 weeks ago, and this week she has been really sick and I haven't been able to see her this whole week except for a very brief moment today. She seemed sick and sad because we had plans this week. What can I do when she is feeling better that she would appreciate? Sadly the plans that we had this week could not be rescheduled so they are out the window this month.

Make her some chicken soup, or a "get well soon" card (by hand).

 

[jaxword]

Does anyone have any ideas for something cute or thoughtful to do in my situation? I've never had this happen to me before.

I started dating this girl about 2 weeks ago, and this week she has been really sick. I haven't been able to see her this whole week except for a very brief moment today and she was definitively sick and she was a little sad because we had plans this week. What can I do when she is feeling better that she would appreciate? Sadly the plans that we had this week could not be rescheduled so they are out the window this month.

2 weeks is a super short period, so a big gesture may be a bit too much so early. It's your call since you obviously know how close you are.

Maybe just a small get well card and a small flower (it should come with one of those small plastic vials that keep them alive for a week)?

 

[MutantCyborg]

You guys are right, I am putting to much thought into this "problem". Thanks for talking sense into me. I'll just take her out to dinner or lunch when she feels better I guess.

 

[jaxword]

You guys are right, I am putting to much thought into this "problem". Thanks for talking sense into me.

No worries, man, you seem like a good guy, just let things flow naturally.

 

[Bucket-o-roadkill]

Things are getting bad in the US in the dating scene. Feminism and the "men are all idiots that don't deserve a princess like you" attitudes of the culture have raised a generation of ugly women (not talking about physical beauty) who have a laundry list of expectations and demands before they will even talk to you. Add to it the "hook-up" culture and women who are willing and able to wait in line for just a piece of the top tier guys equals a whole lot of guys who end up getting noone.

After living in other countries, I've reached the conclusion that the problem hasn't been me all this time. Not that I'm blameless as I have my own issues, but women in other countries don't have unrealistic expectations. I can be a nice guy without being seen as weak. I can approach women without being seen as "creepy". (which is a very unfortunate word that has proliferated the vocabulary of the Western world)

I'm from the UK and it seems there are a lot of things both countries have in common after reading this post. I completely relate with what BigDug13 said, especially the parts I've quoted. As someone else put, I'm fed up with hearing all this bullshit about 'acting a certain way', and stop being so 'nice'. What a load of bollocks. Unfortunetly it seems to come down to whether you tick the boxes of what a lot of these self proclaimed princesses feel they 'deserve'. I, being a 6'2 lanky guy whos slim, lean and not built like a sports star, obviously do not tick these boxes for the most part. I am not an 'ugly' guy, but I certainly don't look like a stud either. I don't stand out as having a huge muscular torso, or arms the size of tree trunks. I be a 'nice guy' to people, not because I am weak, or because I'm sucking up in order to have sex with a girl. I am a nice person because I was brought up in the correct manner by my parents. I was NOT brought up to be a disrespectful, rude, arrogant asshole, unlike some guys who parade themselves around like a bad episode of Jackass.

I agree that some posts here come off as bitter in some ways. I know I'm fucking bitter and twisted about the way society has become and the way I've become a victim of it, much like a lot of guys within this thread. I'm bitter every time I see some rude moron with a beautiful woman who clings on to his every word, just because genetics smiled upon him. There are a lot of guys here with real trust and self confidence issues (me included, lol) but there is a lot of advice being given which could really back-fire imo. Saying things like, act waaaay confident, ignore texts for days on end, be cocky, etc, its no good. In fact, its utter shite in my opinion. There is a huge risk of embarrassing yourself and becoming a target for people to make fun of. Is that going to help things? No.

I have had girl friends through the years, but as time has gone on I've noticed how the scene is changing and it has definitely made me tired and jaded about the prospect of meeting new women now. There was someone who said that its ridiculous to think all women act that way because SOME do. This is true. But I have to admit that 95% of women I've come across in recent years are like this, and its a sad thing to face up to. If a girl fancies you, a girl fancies you. Thats it. If these morons with huge biceps acted differently.. Guess what. They would STILL get the same women with the thin waists, big boobs and pretty faces. These guys act like mannerless fools because they ARE mannerless fools, its not a magical act which has given them the amazing ability of attracting any woman they desire by not texting them or something.

Don't get me wrong, I don't expect women to come and fall onto my cock whenever I click my fingers, but I resent the fact that politeness or kindness seem to count for nothing and is totally overlooked when compared to physical appearances or other materialistic motives.

 

[-PXG-]

Things are getting bad in the US in the dating scene. Feminism and the "men are all idiots that don't deserve a princess like you" attitudes of the culture have raised a generation of ugly women (not talking about physical beauty) who have a laundry list of expectations and demands before they will even talk to you. Add to it the "hook-up" culture and women who are willing and able to wait in line for just a piece of the top tier guys equals a whole lot of guys who end up getting noone.

After living in other countries, I've reached the conclusion that the problem hasn't been me all this time. Not that I'm blameless as I have my own issues, but women in other countries don't have unrealistic expectations. I can be a nice guy without being seen as weak. I can approach women without being seen as "creepy". (which is a very unfortunate word that has proliferated the vocabulary of the Western world)

Why should I jump through so many hoops for the chance at a used up woman who's going to divorce me as soon as things become "too tough" because it is too financially advantageous for her in the American court system to stay with me? And if you have a child? Forget about it. Loss of visitation and paying for child support without the capability to determine how that money is spent while she poisons the mind of your children against you. And it's way more fun at mom's house than dad's because dad is broke and mom gets to spend all his money on providing a fun and nice home. Lose your job and unable to make the child support payments? That will be automatic prison for contempt of court without ever seeing a judge.

50% divorce rate with 80% of those divorces being initiated by the woman in the US. Why is that? Because the feminist court system will reward her with everything she desires.

Why is it that the guys in the US and other Western nations need a "girl/dating age" thread for advice? It's not the guys, it's the culture that has ruined the dating scene and has turned femininity into something to be avoided and twisted into rule over men.

People live in social bubbles now. The only way to meet women is through friends, in school, or at work. Bars/clubs? Forget about it, that's where you will need the PUA mentality to compete with the many Jersey Shore wannabe "alpha" males (which would be simply considered selfish assholes in other countries). Do you even know who your neighbors are? Could you walk up to a stranger and strike up a conversation or is it considered taboo? The rest of the world doesn't exist in this environment, yet in the US, the people think that their culture is the best and that the US is number 1.

It's simply not the truth at all. We live in an extremely racist, morally corrupt, greedy, selfish, and socially broken society being ran by people who want to keep you enslaved with debt.

I've served this country (US Navy) for 19 years now, and seeing other cultures first hand has left me with a first hand view of what the US has become. I'm glad to be American because of what I have and how easy it is for me to travel anywhere I want with little in passport and visa restrictions. But I don't have a desire to permanently live in the US again.

I don't want to live in a world where I need a thread like this to help me find a girlfriend.

I get your overall point, and I sort of agree (with some things, not everything), but I think you're letting your own personal bitterness cloud your judgement a bit.

I'm confident in myself and have had enough success with women to not really get upset or put much thought in this (alleged) paradigm shift when it comes to relationships and gender roles.

 

[Spacebar]

Again I think some people in here are misinterpreting advice given out.


Stop being nice I'm not asking you to stop being a nice person. I'm asking you to stop being so passive and worrying what others think. Some of you guys say you did something nice for a girl and she didn't respond well. What does that say about you? You did something nice so you expected to get something in return. You should be nice because you want to be nice.

Cocky I don't want you "act" cocky. I want you to "be" cocky. To be cocky it takes experience. Myself and others have given tons of advice on how to obtain this. First off go out and start doing shit you normally don't do. This will put you in awkward situations forcing you to accomplish shit you never thought you could. Example is going to a bar and talking to every girl and getting rejected one night. Another example is sign up for a cycle class at your local gym. Don't go into these situations "expecting" some outcome where a random girl falls for you right away. Join the cycle class being you find it interesting and want to challenge yourself. Then open up to others and maybe you will meet a girl. If you don't well then you added something to talk about with a girl you meet later on. You don't need to walk around screaming how bad ass you are, but when you see the girl you need to have the cockiness to approach.

Society Sucks Okay we're all grown up now and see the world for what it really is. However you don't think that every girl likes Ronnie from the Jersey Shore. The earth has plenty of women to talk to and not all of them are going to be some stereotype. If you just go out to meet others for the sake of just meeting them you will meet some really cool people.

Don't Reply to text message so fast Again this topic comes up all the time. The goal here is to be so busy in your life that you don't stress about this kind of shit. The moment you come on this board asking if you should or how to reply to a text you've already lost. You're already trying to figure out the best outcome hoping someone will post the perfect answer for you. Next time reply when you get a chance then come back to Neogaf and say.."I just got a date for tomorrow night" When most of a say don't reply right away we mean "don't stare at your phone all day" Everyone has this expectation that everyone has there phone on them 24 7 so they should respond within a few mins. This is not the case. Just now I heard 3 emails and a text go off on my phone while writing this. Then I'm going go fix dinner and open a package I got in the mail. The last time I'm worried about is looking at my phone for the moment. Whoever it is can wait. You guys are more important to me right now

I think there is plenty of reasons why a girl age thread exists and why some guys have trouble meeting women. It doesn't matter how we got here, but the journey we can take. Don't let the media, society, stereotypes or anything else hold you back. Some people are here to help challenge you and ourselves... Good luck!

 

[Shanadeus]

Again I think some people in here are misinterpreting advice given out.


Stop being nice I'm not asking you to stop being a nice person. I'm asking you to stop being so passive and worrying what others think. Some of you guys say you did something nice for a girl and she didn't respond well. What does that say about you? You did something nice so you expected to get something in return. You should be nice because you want to be nice.

Cocky I don't want you "act" cocky. I want you to "be" cocky. To be cocky it takes experience. Myself and others have given tons of advice on how to obtain this. First off go out and start doing shit you normally don't do. This will put you in awkward situations forcing you to accomplish shit you never thought you could. Example is going to a bar and talking to every girl and getting rejected one night. Another example is sign up for a cycle class at your local gym. Don't go into these situations "expecting" some outcome where a random girl falls for you right away. Join the cycle class being you find it interesting and want to challenge yourself. Then open up to others and maybe you will meet a girl. If you don't well then you added something to talk about with a girl you meet later on. You don't need to walk around screaming how bad ass you are, but when you see the girl you need to have the cockiness to approach.

Society Sucks Okay we're all grown up now and see the world for what it really is. However you don't think that every girl likes Ronnie from the Jersey Shore. The earth has plenty of women to talk to and not all of them are going to be some stereotype. If you just go out to meet others for the sake of just meeting them you will meet some really cool people.

Don't Reply to text message so fast Again this topic comes up all the time. The goal here is to be so busy in your life that you don't stress about this kind of shit. The moment you come on this board asking if you should or how to reply to a text you've already lost. You're already trying to figure out the best outcome hoping someone will post the perfect answer for you. Next time reply when you get a chance then come back to Neogaf and say.."I just got a date for tomorrow night" When most of a say don't reply right away we mean "don't stare at your phone all day" Everyone has this expectation that everyone has there phone on them 24 7 so they should respond within a few mins. This is not the case. Just now I heard 3 emails and a text go off on my phone while writing this. Then I'm going go fix dinner and open a package I got in the mail. The last time I'm worried about is looking at my phone for the moment. Whoever it is can wait. You guys are more important to me right now

I think there is plenty of reasons why a girl age thread exists and why some guys have trouble meeting women. It doesn't matter how we got here, but the journey we can take. Don't let the media, society, stereotypes or anything else hold you back. Some people are here to help challenge you and ourselves... Good luck!

In other words, stop giving this type of advice out.
There is no TL;DR when it comes to human sexual/emotional relationship building.

 

[Cubsfan23]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=RyYAG0mq9Xg#t=59s


be indifferent

 

[jasonng]

In other words, stop giving this type of advice out.
There is no TL;DR when it comes to human sexual/emotional relationship building.

It's not about the simplification of his advice, it's a way of thinking and that's self-improvement. Everyone here agrees that confidence and other positive traits are incredibly attractive. So how do you get that? You improve your own life and when you're focused on that you stop worrying about the little things and you get out there. No one is saying it's easy at first and the existence of this thread proves that it's much harder for others.

And I don't particularly agree with BigDug13's view on the dating world although I don't fault him for feeling that way. Obnoxious women exists and the media encourages their behaviors but not every women falls in a certain category. It's an uphill battle for us "average" guys? Then push yourself harder. If these women can have high standards then there is no reason why you can't have high standards for yourself and your own image.

 

[The Shadow]

Oh look. More entitled, bitter, whiny pussies complaining that the "feminist" system is bringing them down.

Odd. I've never had too much trouble finding myself a girlfriend or even a fuck buddy. It's really not that hard fellas, unless you find it easier to bitch and moan rather than put forth some actual effort.

The girlfriend took me to lunch (yes, she paid) and then gave me a blowjob in a shaded alley before I had to return to work. Feels good man. Oh the horrible feminist machine!

In other words, stop giving this type of advice out.
There is no TL;DR when it comes to human sexual/emotional relationship building.

I think the real problem is that some of the people posting in this thread have far more problems than simply finding a girlfriend. We're talking deep seated self-esteem issues that need to be worked on first. Even if they somehow found themselves in a relationship, that shit won't last with those kinds of problems. A girlfriend isn't going to give you self-worth, or make you feel better about yourself. If you're always home alone feeling like the world sucks, a girlfriend isn't going to turn things around and make it all sunny.

 

[Shanadeus]

Oh look. More entitled, bitter, whiny pussies complaining that the "feminist" system is bringing them down.

Odd. I've never had too much trouble finding myself a girlfriend or even a fuck buddy. It's really not that hard fellas, unless you find it easier to bitch and moan rather than put forth some actual effort.

The girlfriend took me to lunch (yes, she paid) and then gave me a blowjob in a shaded alley before I had to return to work. Feels good man. Oh the horrible feminist machine!

You're obviously a "natural", so anything you say is invalid when it comes to advice to beta males.

 

[The Shadow]

You're obviously a "natural", so anything you say is invalid when it comes to advice to beta males.

I'm not. I was as geeky as anyone else on this forum in high school. I put some actual effort in fixing myself and it paid off. Why? Because I don't have the sense of entitlement some of the people here have.

You are not owed a relationship, love, respect, etc, etc. You need to genuinely earn that shit and whining about the crushing unfair world definitely is NOT the way to go about earning it.