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Girl/Dating Age Part 2: A combined effort to give advice for those in need

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SolKane said:
What's the difference between "Available" and "Single" on Okcupid? Why are so many women bisexual - for the attention?

Single means they have no partner.

Available means they may have a partner.

Women are usually bisexual because they want men and women. Weird, huh?
 
Kad5 said:
I'm hoping my partial bad history with women isn't due to the fact that i'm 5'6 at 18. :\

Im 6'2 and am more likely to win the lottery 6 weeks in a row than find a girl who's interested for longer than 5 minutes. Im a mars bar when it comes to women, a snack to keep them going between main courses.

to cut a long self loathing story short, dont worry about height man.
 
Bucket-o-roadkill said:
Im 6'2 and am more likely to win the lottery 6 weeks in a row than find a girl who's interested for longer than 5 minutes. Im a mars bar when it comes to women, a snack to keep them going between main courses.

to cut a long self loathing story short, dont worry about height man.
This. It's nowhere near as much about height as it is weight. A skinny/slim 5'6" dude will get way more than a slightly-overweight 6'3" dude. Young women are just as visually-oriented as guys are.
 

Thirteen

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Bucket-o-roadkill said:
Im 6'2 and am more likely to win the lottery 6 weeks in a row than find a girl who's interested for longer than 5 minutes. Im a mars bar when it comes to women, a snack to keep them going between main courses.

to cut a long self loathing story short, dont worry about height man.

Women love tall guys! You should be using it to your advantage rather than thinking it's a bad thing. Unless you like really short girls around 5' - 5.5"
 
To the 5'6" guy. Get a bunch of L-Arginine, stretch 1-2hrs a day. Ride a bike (with seat raised all the way up), and work out like hell and eat ALOT. You'll gain a bit of height. I've gained 2cm so far (Almost 5'10.5!)
 
haha well Im not over weight either, Im just shit at keeping women interested I guess. I had the girl of my dreams a year ago and still not got over it. Just turned 28. I cant even begin to think of starting all over again with someone else. Ill either have to 'settle' for anyone in a few years when i eventually forget her and be miserable or be foreveralone.jpg. pisses me off seeing happy couples now, makes me think why was i denied a happy ending, ya know? pathetic i know, haha. life is a shit.
 

~Kinggi~

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Bucket-o-roadkill said:
haha well Im not over weight either, Im just shit at keeping women interested I guess. I had the girl of my dreams a year ago and still not got over it. Just turned 28. I cant even begin to think of starting all over again with someone else. Ill either have to 'settle' for anyone in a few years when i eventually forget her and be miserable or be foreveralone.jpg. pisses me off seeing happy couples now, makes me think why was i denied a happy ending, ya know? pathetic i know, haha. life is a shit.
Hell ill be 28 in 2 months and i never even had a girl so things can always be worse.
 
Etrian Oddity said:
Young women are just as visually-oriented as guys are.

+100000! So true. So fed up with this shite of 'you gotta raise your game' or all this bull crap. just no. if some girl went up to you and was amazingly funny, witty, kind, generous but had a face like a crabs backside, you wouldn't go near her. no way. looks mean LOADS and if youre not blessed enough to look half decent, its down to the luck of the draw. all in my opinion anyway.
 
Bucket-o-roadkill said:
+100000! So true. So fed up with this shite of 'you gotta raise your game' or all this bull crap. just no. if some girl went up to you and was amazingly funny, witty, kind, generous but had a face like a crabs backside, you wouldn't go near her. no way. looks mean LOADS and if youre not blessed enough to look half decent, its down to the luck of the draw. all in my opinion anyway.
It's less about the face and more about the body. Sure there are plenty of chubby dudes with cuties, but in my experience girls are more likely to forgive an ugly face if he has an ok body, rather than vice versa.
 
Jamesfrom818 said:
Story of my life: "I think we'd be better of as friends."

Had a girl pull this recently so I didn't bother to reply to her message, since, what's the point?

Few hours later get a message from her with just '?'.

Guess she was expecting a reply, not sure what she wanted it to say though :lol
 

low-G

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soultron said:
So much negativity. Toughen up. You're better than this.

Story of my life. But my friends are right. No point in dwelling or even thinking about failures. Movin on. And it has made me realize how thankful I am for my friends.
 

soultron

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low-G said:
Story of my life. But my friends are right. No point in dwelling or even thinking about failures. Movin on. And it has made me realize how thankful I am for my friends.
If you have friends and your health, you're doing quite well in life. Anything else is just gravy on top.

Always think positive.
 

low-G

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soultron said:
If you have friends and your health, you're doing quite well in life. Anything else is just gravy on top.

Always think positive.

Plus I got one I can cuddle with, which is pretty awesome.
 
DualShadow said:
Jamesfrom818 said:
Story of my life: "I think we'd be better of as friends."
Had a girl pull this recently so I didn't bother to reply to her message, since, what's the point?

Few hours later get a message from her with just '?'.

Guess she was expecting a reply, not sure what she wanted it to say though :lol

"off"
 

reilo

learning some important life lessons from magical Negroes
Jamesfrom818 said:
Unless you can stick it in, you're just giving yourself blue balls.
To be fair, the other person might be giving themselves blue balls, too.
 

cashman

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foodtaster said:
To the 5'6" guy. Get a bunch of L-Arginine, stretch 1-2hrs a day. Ride a bike (with seat raised all the way up), and work out like hell and eat ALOT. You'll gain a bit of height. I've gained 2cm so far (Almost 5'10.5!)
how long have you been doing this?
 

NIGHT-

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I really hate wanting to be in a relationship so bad. I'ts like I'm not happy unless I got that feeling of being needed and wanted by someone like that. I guess all in all I really need to be happier with myself and my life in general.
 

soultron

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NIGHT- said:
I really hate wanting to be in a relationship so bad. I'ts like I'm not happy unless I got that feeling of being needed and wanted by someone like that. I guess all in all I really need to be happier with myself and my life in general.
You do, in my opinion. You should be at a point with yourself that you're comfortable and happy no matter what your relationship status is. Don't get me wrong, you'll still have the occasional pang when you see the grass being greener on the other side, but work on being happy with yourself as a single person. A partner should complement you, not complete you.
 

ianp622

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Anyone else get this kind of shitty feeling from online dating?

Maybe it's because a lot of girls put being a virgin and never having had a relationship as "unacceptable". Honestly I think it's stupid, because it's pretty easy to fix. But I suppose I wouldn't want to be with someone who can't appreciate that I'm very picky, and if I'm willing to lose my virginity to you, that means a lot. I'm tempted to ask if they would prefer me to go hire a prostitute and come back to them.
 

Dina

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First date today, after my three year relationship crashed 6 months ago. Met her through the Dutch equivalent of OKCupid. Just having coffee at first, but I'm still a bit anxious.


ianp622 said:
Anyone else get this kind of shitty feeling from online dating?

Maybe it's because a lot of girls put being a virgin and never having had a relationship as "unacceptable". Honestly I think it's stupid, because it's pretty easy to fix. But I suppose I wouldn't want to be with someone who can't appreciate that I'm very picky, and if I'm willing to lose my virginity to you, that means a lot. I'm tempted to ask if they would prefer me to go hire a prostitute and come back to them.

I'm sorry, but why would you have this in your profile? I mention nothing about previous relationships or sexual encounters.
 

Mr.Fresh

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Dina said:
First date today, after my three year relationship crashed 6 months ago. Met her through the Dutch equivalent of OKCupid. Just having coffee at first, but I'm still a bit anxious.
Good Luck! Just think positive and be confident...
 

ianp622

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Dina said:
First date today, after my three year relationship crashed 6 months ago. Met her through the Dutch equivalent of OKCupid. Just having coffee at first, but I'm still a bit anxious.




I'm sorry, but why would you have this in your profile? I mention nothing about previous relationships or sexual encounters.
I figure I'd be honest. I got rid of those answers.
 

Dina

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Ace_235 said:
Good Luck! Just think positive and be confident...

Thanks ;) I'm actually not that bad when it comes to making conversation with total strangers, but we'll see. She's pretty into me, which is a plus. And we already know a few things about each other, since we've mailed for some time.
 

Dina

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ianp622 said:
I figure I'd be honest. Maybe I should make those private from now on.

Thing is, you're not scoring points with them right off the bat. You can bring it up, but I would only do that if she asked and by then hopefully you have scored enough brownie-points that it doesn't matter to her anymore.

Sure it's honest, but it's a bit too honest. If you want to bring it up, bring it up playfully, so that it becomes a strength and not a weakness. "No girlfriend, but maybe I was waiting for you?" "No-one yet, but I have been busy saving the world you know ;)" Saving up virginity only flies with a select group of girls :)
 

ianp622

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Dina said:
Thing is, you're not scoring points with them right off the bat. You can bring it up, but I would only do that if she asked and by then hopefully you have scored enough brownie-points that it doesn't matter to her anymore.

Sure it's honest, but it's a bit too honest. If you want to bring it up, bring it up playfully, so that it becomes a strength and not a weakness. "No girlfriend, but maybe I was waiting for you?" "No-one yet, but I have been busy saving the world you know ;)" Saving up virginity only flies with a select group of girls :)
Yeah, I've taken any mention of previous relationships out. If they're interested, they'll ask.

I guess I was a bit disillusioned - I thought online dating would let you find people who are really like you at a deeper level. To some extent it does, but it also makes it easy for people to dismiss you right off the bat. There are only a few questions I mark as relevant (mostly dealing with religion) for that reason.

I suppose I really just need to get out more and do things the old-fashioned way. Just a bit tough with school sometimes.
 

Dina

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ianp622 said:
Yeah, I've taken any mention of previous relationships out. If they're interested, they'll ask.

I guess I was a bit disillusioned - I thought online dating would let you find people who are really like you at a deeper level. To some extent it does, but it also makes it easy for people to dismiss you right off the bat. There are only a few questions I mark as relevant (mostly dealing with religion) for that reason.

I suppose I really just need to get out more and do things the old-fashioned way. Just a bit tough with school sometimes.

I know. My first profile was long and very honest and then I took my profile to a few good friends. They butchered it, but in a good way. It's a lot shorter now, but a lot more to the point and a lot more to find out, with a few good hooks. If you have a good female friend, let her read it and tell you what she thinks. Allow her to be honest. Women have a different way of viewing profiles (especially connections as what your photos say of you, and what you say about you), often times a lot sharper than the average male.

Keep in mind that it's a number game. It's a shotgun at times. I've been messaging girls for 1 month now. Some short, others long, but always with some thought behind it. 84 messages in, about 8 to 10 have replied positively. The big majority replied with an automated 'no interest', a short reply or no reply at all.

I hit it off with one girl pretty good, but she just disappeared (they do that sometimes, for a myriad of reasons). Another claimed to be into me (fucking essay of a reply too), but that was a 06 spambot. A third was hesitant, but appeared to like me. She's dating someone else so that's on pause, maybe forever. With the fourth, I'm going on a date.

That's a 5% efficiency rate going by actual conversation, slightly above 1% concerning date-efficiency. So yeah, it's work and frustrating at times when you put actual thought into a message without getting any benefit.
 

Dina

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All good intensions aside, my date just rescheduled to tuesday cause a relative is in the hospital. It's up there with the most popular excuses, but I'll be a positive-minded fool for now and let her have the reschedule.
 

kid ness

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Dina said:
I know. My first profile was long and very honest and then I took my profile to a few good friends. They butchered it, but in a good way. It's a lot shorter now, but a lot more to the point and a lot more to find out, with a few good hooks. If you have a good female friend, let her read it and tell you what she thinks. Allow her to be honest. Women have a different way of viewing profiles (especially connections as what your photos say of you, and what you say about you), often times a lot sharper than the average male.

Keep in mind that it's a number game. It's a shotgun at times. I've been messaging girls for 1 month now. Some short, others long, but always with some thought behind it. 84 messages in, about 8 to 10 have replied positively. The big majority replied with an automated 'no interest', a short reply or no reply at all.

I hit it off with one girl pretty good, but she just disappeared (they do that sometimes, for a myriad of reasons). Another claimed to be into me (fucking essay of a reply too), but that was a 06 spambot. A third was hesitant, but appeared to like me. She's dating someone else so that's on pause, maybe forever. With the fourth, I'm going on a date.

That's a 5% efficiency rate going by actual conversation, slightly above 1% concerning date-efficiency. So yeah, it's work and frustrating at times when you put actual thought into a message without getting any benefit.
Thanks for posting this -- I'm new to online dating and I'm just trying to send out my first message on OKC. I've picked out a few things from her profile and made a few jokes, but I'm not sure how/when to end the message. Like obviously I don't put "sincerely" lol, but this is just foreign territory to me.
 

jaxword

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Hey dudes, been away from this thread because I spent the past half year getting over the loss of a great lover and partner. Most of it completely drunk in an attempt to forgot her (didn't work...ha).

I genuinely hope all of you have had a better 2011 than I did!

Now, to get back into the game and to go over my prospects. Most of mine are from work/school. I don't really do online dating.

Summed up - girl is hot as hell, but crazy manipulative.

So. Given that I like a challenge, because I'm a messed up doofus who seems to only like girls who ARE a challenge, what's your guys' take on the good/bad chances ratio? Think I made too many mistakes? Even if I did, I'm not stopping because I want to become more confident and aggressive and this is exactly what I need to hone my skills again.
 
kid ness said:
Thanks for posting this -- I'm new to online dating and I'm just trying to send out my first message on OKC. I've picked out a few things from her profile and made a few jokes, but I'm not sure how/when to end the message. Like obviously I don't put "sincerely" lol, but this is just foreign territory to me.
The messages I send out are usually 2 sentences long tops. I usually ask them about something I read in there profile and that's about it.
 
Jamesfrom818 said:
Story of my life: "I think we'd be better of as friends."

Story of my life: I've met this guy and wouldn't want to hurt his feelings by texting you.

Seriously, I didn't really know what heart break and sheer helplessness felt like until the love of my life wrote that to me. gives me stomach ache just remembering it now even though it was a year ago. ffs
 
DoctorWho said:
It means she's freaky and you should definitely go for it.

Thing is, I've tried to have a conversation with her several times since and it sorta never goes anywhere and I end up walking back to my computer before long. I don't know whether it's because she's not interested or that she's even more nervous than I am.

But then she gave me another little hint today. She was eating some bun thing and I asked if I could have a piece. She took a big bite and put the rest in my mouth, and I said something dumb like "I've got all your germs now". To which she replied "aw, it's like we indirectly kissed".

So I'm not sure what to do here.
 

Spacebar

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DualShadow said:
Had a girl pull this recently so I didn't bother to reply to her message, since, what's the point?

Few hours later get a message from her with just '?'.

Guess she was expecting a reply, not sure what she wanted it to say though :lol

She wants to keep you around though just in case the guy(s) she wants don't give her attention. She could always fall back to you for the attention she needs. You did good.
 

Jenga

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MrCookiepants said:
Thing is, I've tried to have a conversation with her several times since and it sorta never goes anywhere and I end up walking back to my computer before long. I don't know whether it's because she's not interested or that she's even more nervous than I am.

But then she gave me another little hint today. She was eating some bun thing and I asked if I could have a piece. She took a big bite and put the rest in my mouth, and I said something dumb like "I've got all your germs now". To which she replied "aw, it's like we indirectly kissed".

So I'm not sure what to do here.
ask her out to coffee/lunch

gg
 

Jenga

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jaxword said:
So. Given that I like a challenge, because I'm a messed up doofus who seems to only like girls who ARE a challenge, what's your guys' take on the good/bad chances ratio? Think I made too many mistakes? Even if I did, I'm not stopping because I want to become more confident and aggressive and this is exactly what I need to hone my skills again.
take your aggressive idiocy in politics threads and put it into your dating for mad pussy
 

BigDug13

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Things are getting bad in the US in the dating scene. Feminism and the "men are all idiots that don't deserve a princess like you" attitudes of the culture have raised a generation of ugly women (not talking about physical beauty) who have a laundry list of expectations and demands before they will even talk to you. Add to it the "hook-up" culture and women who are willing and able to wait in line for just a piece of the top tier guys equals a whole lot of guys who end up getting noone.

After living in other countries, I've reached the conclusion that the problem hasn't been me all this time. Not that I'm blameless as I have my own issues, but women in other countries don't have unrealistic expectations. I can be a nice guy without being seen as weak. I can approach women without being seen as "creepy". (which is a very unfortunate word that has proliferated the vocabulary of the Western world)

Why should I jump through so many hoops for the chance at a used up woman who's going to divorce me as soon as things become "too tough" because it is too financially advantageous for her in the American court system to stay with me? And if you have a child? Forget about it. Loss of visitation and paying for child support without the capability to determine how that money is spent while she poisons the mind of your children against you. And it's way more fun at mom's house than dad's because dad is broke and mom gets to spend all his money on providing a fun and nice home. Lose your job and unable to make the child support payments? That will be automatic prison for contempt of court without ever seeing a judge.

50% divorce rate with 80% of those divorces being initiated by the woman in the US. Why is that? Because the feminist court system will reward her with everything she desires.

Why is it that the guys in the US and other Western nations need a "girl/dating age" thread for advice? It's not the guys, it's the culture that has ruined the dating scene and has turned femininity into something to be avoided and twisted into rule over men.

People live in social bubbles now. The only way to meet women is through friends, in school, or at work. Bars/clubs? Forget about it, that's where you will need the PUA mentality to compete with the many Jersey Shore wannabe "alpha" males (which would be simply considered selfish assholes in other countries). Do you even know who your neighbors are? Could you walk up to a stranger and strike up a conversation or is it considered taboo? The rest of the world doesn't exist in this environment, yet in the US, the people think that their culture is the best and that the US is number 1.

It's simply not the truth at all. We live in an extremely racist, morally corrupt, greedy, selfish, and socially broken society being ran by people who want to keep you enslaved with debt.

I've served this country (US Navy) for 19 years now, and seeing other cultures first hand has left me with a first hand view of what the US has become. I'm glad to be American because of what I have and how easy it is for me to travel anywhere I want with little in passport and visa restrictions. But I don't have a desire to permanently live in the US again.

I don't want to live in a world where I need a thread like this to help me find a girlfriend.
 
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