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[U n i o n 0015]

The Great Recession? Huge socio-economic shifts? What the hell is this rubbish you're buying by the bucketload?

I'm not from the US, and neither is the poster I responded to, so I have no idea if people are building houses out of dollar bills over there, or if people are still buying nice things with their pay packets.

The job market means little, because if you're dating on the assumption that you can 'date up' since you're making more money than your prospective girlfriend then you're in for a real treat if you ever want a loving and trusting relationship with someone. So you can't impress a girl with your salary any more? Oh well, nevermind. I don't get how that emasculates you.

Must be a lovely vacuum you live in!

The fact is that the trends I pointed out have consequences for the men of this thread, meaning that no matter how hard they follow some of the unicorn fart advice given, overall things aren't working in their favor.

You can try to ice skate uphill--you can even find a decent technique that might work--but you're still facing an uphill battle.

I'm trying to provide some insight beyond some of the terrible Askmen.com regurgitation that I'm reading in many of these posts. Some of you guys act like every guy in here is the source of his own problem--that they're too nerdy, too nice, too whatever and clearly if they're more alpha, more willing to have a woman pay for their dinner, more willing to be a smug dbag, that suddenly all their female woes will be solved.

Dating is a grey area. Every man is different, every girl is different, but overall trends govern us all. The problem here is a little bit of him, a little bit of her, and the environment that we're in.

 

[Spacebar]

Must be a lovely vacuum you live in!

The fact is that the trends I pointed out have consequences for the men of this thread, meaning that no matter how hard they follow some of the unicorn fart advice given, overall things aren't working in their favor.

You can try to ice skate uphill--you can even find a decent technique that might work--but you're still facing an uphill battle.

I'm trying to provide some insight beyond some of the terrible Askmen.com regurgitation that I'm reading in many of these posts. Some of you guys act like every guy in here is the source of his own problem--that they're too nerdy, too nice, too whatever and clearly if they're more alpha, more willing to have a woman pay for their dinner, more willing to be a smug dbag, that suddenly all their female woes will be solved.

Dating is a grey area. Every man is different, every girl is different, but overall trends govern us all. The problem here is a little bit of him, a little bit of her, and the environment that we're in.

What advice do you have for the guys here who aren't getting any women?

 

[Etrian Oddity]

Yesterday was a great day, even if I got a little too thrown last night. XD Had a Snow White cat-call me while I was going to this party at an apartment, and got over my fear of dancing with girls again. XD

 

[Spacebar]

Yesterday was a great day, even if I got a little too thrown last night. XD Had a Snow White cat-call me while I was going to this party at an apartment, and got over my fear of dancing with girls again. XD

Nice to see some good progress from you. Keep going out and enjoying yourself. Good things will come.

 

[The Shadow]

Must be a lovely vacuum you live in!

The fact is that the trends I pointed out have consequences for the men of this thread, meaning that no matter how hard they follow some of the unicorn fart advice given, overall things aren't working in their favor.

You can try to ice skate uphill--you can even find a decent technique that might work--but you're still facing an uphill battle.

I'm trying to provide some insight beyond some of the terrible Askmen.com regurgitation that I'm reading in many of these posts. Some of you guys act like every guy in here is the source of his own problem--that they're too nerdy, too nice, too whatever and clearly if they're more alpha, more willing to have a woman pay for their dinner, more willing to be a smug dbag, that suddenly all their female woes will be solved.

Dating is a grey area. Every man is different, every girl is different, but overall trends govern us all. The problem here is a little bit of him, a little bit of her, and the environment that we're in.

So your advice is to shrug off personal self-improvement and responsibility and blame the system? We can't control what women think and we can't control the environment or social norms.

You're a huge help!

Yesterday was a great day, even if I got a little too thrown last night. XD Had a Snow White cat-call me while I was going to this party at an apartment, and got over my fear of dancing with girls again. XD

Dancing is HUGE with women. Even if you're terrible at it, if a girl sees you trying something you don't want to do, it'll impress her.

 

[daviyoung]

Must be a lovely vacuum you live in!

Much better to live in a vacuum I can control than a self-made yet uncontrollable hell.

 

[Etrian Oddity]

Dancing is HUGE with women. Even if you're terrible at it, if a girl sees you trying something you don't want to do, it'll impress her.

There's a local nightclub/dance bar here that's very popular, so I need to watch some Youtube videos and practice so I don't look stupid before I do that stuff XD. It's not like I actually dance, it's just the typical shit you see at night. I still think it's kind of creeper for guys to just go up to girls dancing on the floor, but since most of the time the girls don't give a shit and just start grinding on whoever's behind them I guess it isn't that big a deal.

 

[Aurora]

There's a local nightclub/dance bar here that's very popular, so I need to watch some Youtube videos and practice so I don't look stupid before I do that stuff XD. It's not like I actually dance, it's just the typical shit you see at night. I still think it's kind of creeper for guys to just go up to girls dancing on the floor, but since most of the time the girls don't give a shit and just start grinding on whoever's behind them I guess it isn't that big a deal.

It's the easiest way to get girls. My cousin just goes up to girls and starts feeling them up without giving a fuck. He gets laid all the time. If you're confident enough, you can do anything.

 

[BigDug13]

What advice do you have for the guys here who aren't getting any women?

Get out of the US. (or out of the UK/Ireland/etc if that's your location...basically most "Western" nations exceptions being Germany and Scandinavian countries which haven't followed this trend nearly as much.)

I'm not advocating being a slob and not improve yourself. I'm not advocating that you treat women poorly, as I never have. I'm only advocating moving somewhere where women still truly appreciate you. Where a marriage has a great chance at SUCCESS instead of a 50% chance of failure.

No matter how much you dance for their entertainment, or come across as confident, or whatever, you will still have a huge chance at the relationship ending badly. Even getting married in the US is gambling with a 50% chance to lose and climbing. 50% divorce rate also assumes that the other 50% are HAPPY in their marriage, but I doubt that they all are.

The fickle rubix cube maze that you are required to perfectly traverse to reach the heart of many American women is becoming increasingly difficult to navigate.

After living in Japan, it's been a complete 180 in my success rate. I see why so many military men come back with Japanese wives. It's not simply an "Asian fetish". It's a "treat me like a man" fetish.

After traveling to Korea, Thailand, Australia, Malaysia, Singapore, Hong Kong, and Dubai, I've also seen how much the "America is the best place on Earth to live" isn't really true. Thank God I'm American since it allows me to easily travel the world with my American passport. I'm definitely going to be using the hell out of it when I retire next year.


Anyone who says that dating and relationships in the US is not problematic in the face of such a high rate of unsuccess is delusional, or is really young and hasn't really lived yet.

 

[NIGHT-]

Ok gaf. Talked to a girl from pof for a couple days and we connected well. We went out for drinks and seemed like a great time. Walked her to her car and we kissed. She sent me a text later that night saying she hoped I had a good time and that "I tasted good"(never been complicated in that sense lol). She told me to text her this morning. I've done so and got no response.. She just busy? Or should I just proceed on to someone else

 

[Danj]

There is no TL;DR when it comes to human sexual/emotional relationship building.

Is there a non-TL;DR version though? For example, I notice from time to time news articles about how they are teaching something called SRE (sex and relationships education) in schools now. I never had anything like that when I was young, and it seems like it's probably the sort of thing that "everybody" is supposed to know, but finding source materials seems to be incredibly difficult (and not just because googling anything with "sex" as a keyword turns up mountains of porn).

 

[Spacebar]

Ok gaf. Talked to a girl from pof for a couple days and we connected well. We went out for drinks and seemed like a great time. Walked her to her car and we kissed. She sent me a text later that night saying she hoped I had a good time and that "I tasted good"(never been complicated in that sense lol). She told me to text her this morning. I've done so and got no response.. She just busy? Or should I just proceed on to someone else

Relax dude, it hasn't even been 24 hours yet. Let her text you back when she gets a chance. In the mean time feel free to meet other girls on OKC and get another date.

 

[-PXG-]

Get out of the US. (or out of the UK/Ireland/etc if that's your location...basically most "Western" nations exceptions being Germany and Scandinavian countries which haven't followed this trend nearly as much.)

I'm not advocating being a slob and not improve yourself. I'm not advocating that you treat women poorly, as I never have. I'm only advocating moving somewhere where women still truly appreciate you. Where a marriage has a great chance at SUCCESS instead of a 50% chance of failure.

No matter how much you dance for their entertainment, or come across as confident, or whatever, you will still have a huge chance at the relationship ending badly. Even getting married in the US is gambling with a 50% chance to lose and climbing. 50% divorce rate also assumes that the other 50% are HAPPY in their marriage, but I doubt that they all are.

The fickle rubix cube maze that you are required to perfectly traverse to reach the heart of many American women is becoming increasingly difficult to navigate.

After living in Japan, it's been a complete 180 in my success rate. I see why so many military men come back with Japanese wives. It's not simply an "Asian fetish". It's a "treat me like a man" fetish.

After traveling to Korea, Thailand, Australia, Malaysia, Singapore, Hong Kong, and Dubai, I've also seen how much the "America is the best place on Earth to live" isn't really true. Thank God I'm American since it allows me to easily travel the world with my American passport. I'm definitely going to be using the hell out of it when I retire next year.


Anyone who says that dating and relationships in the US is not problematic in the face of such a high rate of unsuccess is delusional, or is really young and hasn't really lived yet.

How old are you?

Ok gaf. Talked to a girl from pof for a couple days and we connected well. We went out for drinks and seemed like a great time. Walked her to her car and we kissed. She sent me a text later that night saying she hoped I had a good time and that "I tasted good"(never been complicated in that sense lol). She told me to text her this morning. I've done so and got no response.. She just busy? Or should I just proceed on to someone else

A job. School. A life.

These are things people have. Calm down.

 

[-PXG-]

'bout to head out for another date

 

[Spacebar]

'bout to head out for another date

-PXG-
-liar-

Spoiler

Good Luck and report back!

 

[FortunateSon]

I'm going out tonight with a few of my guy friends, a party. Guys night out or whatnot.

So we're actually gooing to a club here, just wondering, any tips to getting girls in a club environment? How to approach?

I'm a very good dancer (but I still fail to get girls at clubs, even though I notice so many look at me when I dance, I usually dance by mself, when I'm into it, I could give fuck all, who looks at me or whatnot, just in my own world dancing). Hip-hop mainly.

 

[Coeliacus]

No matter how much you dance for their entertainment, or come across as confident, or whatever, you will still have a huge chance at the relationship ending badly. Even getting married in the US is gambling with a 50% chance to lose and climbing. 50% divorce rate also assumes that the other 50% are HAPPY in their marriage, but I doubt that they all are.

The fickle rubix cube maze that you are required to perfectly traverse to reach the heart of many American women is becoming increasingly difficult to navigate.

After living in Japan, it's been a complete 180 in my success rate. I see why so many military men come back with Japanese wives. It's not simply an "Asian fetish". It's a "treat me like a man" fetish.

I doubt that these Japanese women (or whatever other countries you are referring to) are likely to be happier than their US counterparts. I think it's more likely that they will be happy with their lot in life if anything. Some girls will be because Americans offer a higher standard of living and Japanese particularly because they value codependency more than individuality.

I get what you're trying to say, but putting it down to some sort of deficiency on one nations gender isn't a good look.

 

[-PXG-]

-PXG-
-liar-

Spoiler

Good Luck and report back!

Date was solid. Pretty normal. We both had a good time. She texted me right after saying she had a good time and wanted to see me again. She said that to me before we went our separate ways.

I'm seeing the girl from last weekend, next Saturday. She's coming back to my place, this time looking for a little more intimacy.

She really wants to have sex and has been making it very obvious (and out right saying) that she wants me to be her BF. We'll see. I'm being careful about letting her know how I feel and doing my best not to lead her on or take advantage of her. I'd never want to do that, to ANYBODY.

 

[Dina]

Ok gaf. Talked to a girl from pof for a couple days and we connected well. We went out for drinks and seemed like a great time. Walked her to her car and we kissed. She sent me a text later that night saying she hoped I had a good time and that "I tasted good"(never been complicated in that sense lol). She told me to text her this morning. I've done so and got no response.. She just busy? Or should I just proceed on to someone else

It'll be okay. You kissed, she had a good time, she wanted you to text. She'll respond.

 

[Shouta]

Get out of the US. (or out of the UK/Ireland/etc if that's your location...basically most "Western" nations exceptions being Germany and Scandinavian countries which haven't followed this trend nearly as much.)

I'm not advocating being a slob and not improve yourself. I'm not advocating that you treat women poorly, as I never have. I'm only advocating moving somewhere where women still truly appreciate you. Where a marriage has a great chance at SUCCESS instead of a 50% chance of failure.

No matter how much you dance for their entertainment, or come across as confident, or whatever, you will still have a huge chance at the relationship ending badly. Even getting married in the US is gambling with a 50% chance to lose and climbing. 50% divorce rate also assumes that the other 50% are HAPPY in their marriage, but I doubt that they all are.

The fickle rubix cube maze that you are required to perfectly traverse to reach the heart of many American women is becoming increasingly difficult to navigate.

After living in Japan, it's been a complete 180 in my success rate. I see why so many military men come back with Japanese wives. It's not simply an "Asian fetish". It's a "treat me like a man" fetish.

After traveling to Korea, Thailand, Australia, Malaysia, Singapore, Hong Kong, and Dubai, I've also seen how much the "America is the best place on Earth to live" isn't really true. Thank God I'm American since it allows me to easily travel the world with my American passport. I'm definitely going to be using the hell out of it when I retire next year.


Anyone who says that dating and relationships in the US is not problematic in the face of such a high rate of unsuccess is delusional, or is really young and hasn't really lived yet.

Dating in another country is certainly different than it is in the US but to say that other countries are much better is false. Dating and relationships in other countries have many problems and some very potentially big ones. If it jives with what you're seeking in a relationship fine but it's definitely not all sunshine and rainbows.

 

[Spacebar]

Date was solid. Pretty normal. We both had a good time. She texted me right after saying she had a good time and wanted to see me again. She said that to me before we went our separate ways.

I'm seeing the girl from last weekend, next Saturday. She's coming back to my place, this time looking for a little more intimacy.

She really wants to have sex and has been making it very obvious (and out right saying) that she wants me to be her BF. We'll see. I'm being careful about letting her know how I feel and doing my best not to lead her on or take advantage of her. I'd never want to do that, to ANYBODY.

Nice job man. LIKE A BOSS!

 

[Coeliacus]

She really wants to have sex and has been making it very obvious (and out right saying) that she wants me to be her BF. We'll see. I'm being careful about letting her know how I feel and doing my best not to lead her on or take advantage of her. I'd never want to do that, to ANYBODY.

Not sure how you feel? Sounds like she is coming on pretty strong so soon.

 

[The Shadow]

Ok gaf. Talked to a girl from pof for a couple days and we connected well. We went out for drinks and seemed like a great time. Walked her to her car and we kissed. She sent me a text later that night saying she hoped I had a good time and that "I tasted good"(never been complicated in that sense lol). She told me to text her this morning. I've done so and got no response.. She just busy? Or should I just proceed on to someone else

She likes you so don't sweat it. You've texted her, now you can wait a little and see if she texts back. If she doesn't, no big deal (it was a first date). If she does, great.

Is there a non-TL;DR version though? For example, I notice from time to time news articles about how they are teaching something called SRE (sex and relationships education) in schools now. I never had anything like that when I was young, and it seems like it's probably the sort of thing that "everybody" is supposed to know, but finding source materials seems to be incredibly difficult (and not just because googling anything with "sex" as a keyword turns up mountains of porn).

For me, it was something I had to learn all on my own because many of my HS friends were pretty nerdy, never wanted to go out, never wanted to talk to anyone, pined for girlfriends but never did anything about it, etc. Eventually, I separated myself from them in my early twenties because I didn't want to be like that anymore. My best friend was quite a slob right out of HS and that was kind of the last straw.

Humans are social animals and although we pick up an "education" in classes when we're younger, we also learn a lot from our peers as well. If your peers live a certain way, you'll tend to live a similar lifestyle. That's why there's no material on it and there's an assumption that you should just know it.

 

[Bucket-o-roadkill]

She likes you so don't sweat it. You've texted her, now you can wait a little and see if she texts back. If she doesn't, no big deal (it was a first date). If she does, great.



For me, it was something I had to learn all on my own because many of my HS friends were pretty nerdy, never wanted to go out, never wanted to talk to anyone, pined for girlfriends but never did anything about it, etc. Eventually, I separated myself from them in my early twenties because I didn't want to be like that anymore. My best friend was quite a slob right out of HS and that was kind of the last straw.

Humans are social animals and although we pick up an "education" in classes when we're younger, we also learn a lot from our peers as well. If your peers live a certain way, you'll tend to live a similar lifestyle. That's why there's no material on it and there's an assumption that you should just know it.

the last parts of your post are really interesting to me. to cut a long story short my social circle consists of guys who are either with women already, or guys who are single and are, unfortunately... useless. One is always too 'scared' to go out where other people our own age hang out it seems. another seems content to sit on his ass while the world goes by. Its annoying because these guys are my friends and i do enjoy their company, but i am realising more and more that Im not meeting girls or other people in general by mixing with them. Should i ditch them? although if i do that Im cutting off even more people to hang around with.. The past 18 months I've only dated girls from online dating sites with varied success. for example, i met a girl i fell head over heels for, only for her to meet another guy and leave me for dead. not good. i think real life conversation instead of constant phone calls and texting with occasional meetings will lower the risk of me falling into that trap again.

 

[JORMBO]

the last parts of your post are really interesting to me. to cut a long story short my social circle consists of guys who are either with women already, or guys who are single and are, unfortunately... useless. One is always too 'scared' to go out where other people our own age hang out it seems. another seems content to sit on his ass while the world goes by. Its annoying because these guys are my friends and i do enjoy their company, but i am realising more and more that Im not meeting girls or other people in general by mixing with them. Should i ditch them? although if i do that Im cutting off even more people to hang around with.. The past 18 months I've only dated girls from online dating sites with varied success. for example, i met a girl i fell head over heels for, only for her to meet another guy and leave me for dead. not good. i think real life conversation instead of constant phone calls and texting with occasional meetings will lower the risk of me falling into that trap again.

Sounds like my social circle. I guess for me it comes with getting older though. I used to meet all kinds of people in college and when I first got out, but now not so much anymore. It's harder for me to make some new friends living in the suburbs because most people are the older, have family types. If you can meet some new people I'd recommend doing that, but don't cut off your old friends completely. They are still your friends.

I've done online dating with some success. I don't like the concept though to keep at it for long term. I'm more old fashioned in a sense I'd rather talk to someone naturally in person. Plus 90% of the girls there aren't attractive but think they are a huge catch since the male to female ratio favors females by far. I recently sent out my first message of this year on a dating site and am going to have coffee with the girl this week. I had to wade through 23 pages just to find a girl that was decent looking.

 

[The Shadow]

the last parts of your post are really interesting to me. to cut a long story short my social circle consists of guys who are either with women already, or guys who are single and are, unfortunately... useless. One is always too 'scared' to go out where other people our own age hang out it seems. another seems content to sit on his ass while the world goes by. Its annoying because these guys are my friends and i do enjoy their company, but i am realising more and more that Im not meeting girls or other people in general by mixing with them. Should i ditch them? although if i do that Im cutting off even more people to hang around with.. The past 18 months I've only dated girls from online dating sites with varied success. for example, i met a girl i fell head over heels for, only for her to meet another guy and leave me for dead. not good. i think real life conversation instead of constant phone calls and texting with occasional meetings will lower the risk of me falling into that trap again.

That's probably going to be different for everyone. For me, I knew I had to be drastic and not hang out with them anymore, reduce the amount of talking to them, etc. I didn't cut them out completely but effectively, I kinda did. I'd only talk to my best friend every few months or so on the phone.

I miss them but I also don't regret my decision. The last time I talked to my (former) best friend, maybe about ~4 years ago, he was still a virgin in his late 20's and still living with his mom. As a matter of fact, he seemed "amazed" that I was living on my own at that time and was seeing someone, like it was some unachievable goal. It kind of reinforced my decision to cut him and others like him from my life.

Everyone lives their own life, but it's also naive to say we're completely independent and not prone to influence. I had to cut those negative influences, or rather, enablers to a lifestyle I wasn't happy with.

Keep in mind that the amount of friends you have is a pretty meaningless thing. I have fewer friends now than I did immediately after HS and yet I feel far less lonely. The friends I have now I know actually care about me. Quality before quantity.

 

[ThanksVision]

Holy shit guys.
I've been kinda chasing what I thought was a lost cause the last couple of weeks until...
I went to this girl's house last night (Friday) around 9:30. Didn't leave until 2:30 AM. We just talked and talked for hours. I've never connected with someone like that before, and she said the same. We both opened up to each other so easily. She didn't want me to leave, haha. It was such a great feeling. Eventually I did have to leave though, and she walked out to my car with me and it was raining like crazy. We stood there holding each other for another 5 minutes getting soaked. It was amazing, I've never felt like this before. When I got home she had tweeted "Speechless " and that just kinda sealed the deal for me. We hung out again tonight but only for about an hour because she had prior engagements with her friend. But she wants to see me again tomorrow!

I'm just trying to say DON'T GIVE UP too easily! If I had, then I would probably still be feeling like shit.

The only thing I hate is that being in high school means we can only really hang out on weekends for long periods of time. Every minute is worth it though.

 

[Atramental]

Good job, Avid. Stories like yours always brings a smile to my face.

 

[Etrian Oddity]

Earlier tonight I spotted that girl I mentioned in this post

On a related note, I hate when this scenario happens: Last semester I spotted a girl on campus several times, but as I was a scrub back then I never did anything. Lately I've seen her popping up a lot at functions and extracurricular stuff or out in the clubs, but I've never gotten a clean shot at approaching her. >.> Always either on the opposite side of the room flanked w/a ton of her friends or I'll be *this* close to getting an opportunity and then a crowd will rush between us.

The worst part is that because I've anticipated this so much she's been unwittingly placed on the pedestal. Even if I do get a clean shot to approach her, I fear I've built it up in my head so much it'll be a disaster. >_<

Well this isn't an issue anymore, since she rebuked my eye contact and smile earlier tonight. Ah well, saves me disappointment from an approach, at least. XD

 

[Calion]

Holy shit guys.
I've been kinda chasing what I thought was a lost cause the last couple of weeks until...
I went to this girl's house last night (Friday) around 9:30. Didn't leave until 2:30 AM. We just talked and talked for hours. I've never connected with someone like that before, and she said the same. We both opened up to each other so easily. She didn't want me to leave, haha. It was such a great feeling. Eventually I did have to leave though, and she walked out to my car with me and it was raining like crazy. We stood there holding each other for another 5 minutes getting soaked. It was amazing, I've never felt like this before. When I got home she had tweeted "Speechless " and that just kinda sealed the deal for me. We hung out again tonight but only for about an hour because she had prior engagements with her friend. But she wants to see me again tomorrow!

I'm just trying to say DON'T GIVE UP too easily! If I had, then I would probably still be feeling like shit.

The only thing I hate is that being in high school means we can only really hang out on weekends for long periods of time. Every minute is worth it though.

That's awesome! Keep us updated!

 

[Kad5]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=32210125&postcount=16520

Refer back to that.

This girl is kind of fucked up I realize. She acts flirty with all sorts of guys but puts me in a special place close to her. I'm in the friend zone on steroids.

Recently I realized however I have benefited from her in all kinds of ways. I'll be straight up here. She sometimes uses guys for things like drugs and alcohol. She flirts with them at bars and such and gets hooked up with drinks for example.

My friends tell me I should stay away from her because they are afraid she might be using me. I occasionally smoke her up since she's my friend and all but of course she's not special or anything I smoke up my best friend too at the same time. We're like a trio that almost always hangs out.

Occasionally she'll hang out with other guys but I notice these guys usually have drug connections. She doesn't even sleep with any of the guys she uses. She just hangs around them.

Meanwhile, she helps hook me up. She gives me drinks and weed occasionally if possible.

I'm in a pretty unique situation. Kind of fucked up though. This girl is definitely using me. Just not on purpose.

She's addicted to affection. Even though she doesn't think of me intimately she values me highly as a close friend. She uses me in that sense.

I can't complain.

 

[Coeliacus]

I'm in a pretty unique situation. Kind of fucked up though. This girl is definitely using me. Just not on purpose.

She's addicted to affection. Even though she doesn't think of me intimately she values me highly as a close friend. She uses me in that sense.

I can't complain.

Congrats. You've earned a friend. She uses you. She gives you stuff. That's what a friend does. Is it a problem if you know that she doesn't want more even if she is a bit naturally flirty?

 

[Dilly]

Holy damn GAF, after 19 years of forever aloness I actually have a date tomorrow with a great girl.

Can't believe it.

 

[Kad5]

Congrats. You've earned a friend. She uses you. She gives you stuff. That's what a friend does. Is it a problem if you know that she doesn't want more even if she is a bit naturally flirty?

Nah it's not really a problem at all.

 

[-PXG-]

Not sure how you feel? Sounds like she is coming on pretty strong so soon.

Oh yeah, she is

 

[The Shadow]

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Bleh....

 

[bananaman1234]

Holy damn GAF, after 19 years of forever aloness I actually have a date tomorrow with a great girl.

Can't believe it.

Congrats! what kind of date is it?

 

[Angst]

So yesterday I did what everyone says to stay away from: did a serious move on a co-worker... We work 5 feet away from each other, lol.

Turns out that she have been thinking about the same thing for half a year and it was such a fucking relief to talk to her about it. We were pretty wasted, but I talked to her again today and we're still good. We will pretend like nothing at work then go out for dinner tomorrow.

I've been at the job for 5 years now, so it wouldn't be a bad idea to move on anyway if that's necessary. There's plenty of job opportunities but a really good girl doesn't come around that often. I wouldn't recommend hitting on a co-worker if it's not dead serious though. Hit and run doesn't work so good when she can throw stuff at you at work...

TL, DR; angst finally manned up and asked his co-worker out.

 

[radioheadrule83]

It's probably too late if you can't find a party / club to go to tonight or tomorrow, but DRESS UP FOR HALLOWEEN. Definitely my favourite night / weekend of the year!

I had a very good night last night, lots of attention. I wish people were that open / sociable normally! One particular girl was pretty much angling for a 2 on 1 session with me and my flatmate - utter filth... but we met lots of less horny nice girls (and guys) too.

 

[Cygnus X-1]

Today I'm feeling a bit down. I'm starting to get pissed off to not being viewed by girls as a man and being told "I can't see you this way" or "I'm sorry, but I already have a boyfriend" or "you look very intelligent and you are nice, but..."

After being rejected something like 20 times straight in last some years, I think I will take a break now. I'm starting my Ph.D. and maybe it's better to focus my attention to something else. I'm too pissed off to take the initiative now and I need to cool down first. And good thing that I'm broad-shouldered.

Sorry for my little rant guys.

 

[Troblin]

You done goofed my friend, but never fear as many other opportunities will come your way. When you get these awkward silent moments at the end of the night just look into her eyes and go for it. I would say take a little advice from the movie Hitch. You lean in most of the way and then let her come in at the end to clinch the kiss.

Most of the times at the end of the night the girl will look into your eyes and her eyes will be glazed over. This means your money and shoot right in. Knowing when these moments arise takes practice like everything else. The more you have them the better you feel about knowing what to do when they happen.

Good luck on the second date.

So i had the 2nd date tonight. Pretty much a complete fail on my part. We met up for dessert and had a pretty good conversation. I think i was overly focused on the kiss close and misread signs and did not building enough attraction along the way. When i went for the goodnight kiss, i got an awkward hug/mouth to top of the head. Like something straight out of a movie.. Lol

Figure I'm pretty much friend-zoned at this point. Ah well chalk it up to dating experience.

 

[Dilly]

Congrats! what kind of date is it?

Probably going to a bar or something. Too bad that the bar where I always go is closed.

 

[Slayer-33]

So i had the 2nd date tonight. Pretty much a complete fail on my part. We met up for dessert and had a pretty good conversation. I think i was overly focused on the kiss close and misread signs and did not building enough attraction along the way. When i went for the goodnight kiss, i got an awkward hug/mouth to top of the head. Like something straight out of a movie.. Lol

Figure I'm pretty much friend-zoned at this point. Ah well chalk it up to dating experience.

Bro-fist son.

You should only be a one woman man if you're in a relationship. If not, go nuts. Don't ever think you're the only guy she's seeing. Just don't bite off more than you can chew. And don't mix up their names either

Hell yeah son

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm8l1Q_ks1k&feature=related

Awesome shit ^ watch that vid guys if you haven't

 

[Mr.Fresh]

Decided to post in here about me for once. There's this girl that I liked since highschool, got her number in highschool but haven't really made a move as I was trying to make sure I would graduate. But anyway since we graduated this past June she has been hitting me up a lot lately and we text all day about jobs, life, people , etc. Last weekend we just sat in the car and drank in front of her house. Her sister invited me to the club with them tonight but I was to busy to go tonight so we just decided we were gonna chill tomorrow night. Gonna make a move in her tomorrow wish me luck gaf.

There's this other girl that texts/calls me randomly throughout the week asking me when am I gonna fuck her and she has wanted to fuck me ever since the 1st time she saw me. Just today she texts me saying that she misses me. I only chilled with her one time and I barely even said anything to her so I'm not sure how she misses me. Right b4 she texts me today I see on Facebook that her bf is gonna meet her mom today. When I asked her about it she said she calls all her best friends baby and babe. ( Idk who is supposed to believe that lie.) Everyone I know is telling ne not to sleep with her so I'm not sure what to do yet.

 

[ajf009]

Decided to post in here about me for once. There's this girl that I liked since highschool, got her number in highschool but haven't really made a move as I was trying to make sure I would graduate. But anyway since we graduated this past June she has been hitting me up a lot lately and we text all day about jobs, life, people , etc. Last weekend we just sat in the car and drank in front of her house. Her sister invited me to the club with them tonight but I was to busy to go tonight so we just decided we were gonna chill tomorrow night. Gonna make a move in her tomorrow wish me luck gaf.

There's this other girl that texts/calls me randomly throughout the week asking me when am I gonna fuck her and she has wanted to fuck me ever since the 1st time she saw me. Just today she texts me saying that she misses me. I only chilled with her one time and I barely even said anything to her so I'm not sure how she misses me. Right b4 she texts me today I see on Facebook that her bf is gonna meet her mom today. When I asked her about it she said she calls all her best friends baby and babe. ( Idk who is supposed to believe that lie.) Everyone I know is telling ne not to sleep with her so I'm not sure what to do yet.

1. You're really gunna need some luck on that one haha, good luck!

2. what happens if you try to make a move on girl a, then she finds out you're fucking girl b? idk that was just the first thing that came to mind

 

[Slayer-33]

Decided to post in here about me for once. There's this girl that I liked since highschool, got her number in highschool but haven't really made a move as I was trying to make sure I would graduate. But anyway since we graduated this past June she has been hitting me up a lot lately and we text all day about jobs, life, people , etc. Last weekend we just sat in the car and drank in front of her house. Her sister invited me to the club with them tonight but I was to busy to go tonight so we just decided we were gonna chill tomorrow night. Gonna make a move in her tomorrow wish me luck gaf.

There's this other girl that texts/calls me randomly throughout the week asking me when am I gonna fuck her and she has wanted to fuck me ever since the 1st time she saw me. Just today she texts me saying that she misses me. I only chilled with her one time and I barely even said anything to her so I'm not sure how she misses me. Right b4 she texts me today I see on Facebook that her bf is gonna meet her mom today. When I asked her about it she said she calls all her best friends baby and babe. ( Idk who is supposed to believe that lie.) Everyone I know is telling ne not to sleep with her so I'm not sure what to do yet.

Do IT!

 

[ErasureAcer]

There's this other girl that texts/calls me randomly throughout the week asking me when am I gonna fuck her and she has wanted to fuck me ever since the 1st time she saw me. Just today she texts me saying that she misses me. I only chilled with her one time and I barely even said anything to her so I'm not sure how she misses me. Right b4 she texts me today I see on Facebook that her bf is gonna meet her mom today. When I asked her about it she said she calls all her best friends baby and babe. ( Idk who is supposed to believe that lie.) Everyone I know is telling ne not to sleep with her so I'm not sure what to do yet.

Tell us what STD she gives you.

 

[Mr.Fresh]

1. You're really gunna need some luck on that one haha, good luck!

2. what happens if you try to make a move on girl a, then she finds out you're fucking girl b? idk that was just the first thing that came to mind

1. I meant on her but yeah hopefully everything turns out good for me.

2. Girl A has no clue about girl B. Plus if I end up in a relationship with Girl A then ill tell Girl B that i wanna be just friends.

Do IT!

LOL i meant on.

Tell us what STD she gives you,

 

[News Bot]

Tell us what STD she gives you.

Seriously. She sounds like a loose specimen.

 

[lawlohwhat]

Get out of the US. (or out of the UK/Ireland/etc if that's your location...basically most "Western" nations exceptions being Germany and Scandinavian countries which haven't followed this trend nearly as much.)

I'm not advocating being a slob and not improve yourself. I'm not advocating that you treat women poorly, as I never have. I'm only advocating moving somewhere where women still truly appreciate you. Where a marriage has a great chance at SUCCESS instead of a 50% chance of failure.

No matter how much you dance for their entertainment, or come across as confident, or whatever, you will still have a huge chance at the relationship ending badly. Even getting married in the US is gambling with a 50% chance to lose and climbing. 50% divorce rate also assumes that the other 50% are HAPPY in their marriage, but I doubt that they all are.

The fickle rubix cube maze that you are required to perfectly traverse to reach the heart of many American women is becoming increasingly difficult to navigate.

After living in Japan, it's been a complete 180 in my success rate. I see why so many military men come back with Japanese wives. It's not simply an "Asian fetish". It's a "treat me like a man" fetish.

After traveling to Korea, Thailand, Australia, Malaysia, Singapore, Hong Kong, and Dubai, I've also seen how much the "America is the best place on Earth to live" isn't really true. Thank God I'm American since it allows me to easily travel the world with my American passport. I'm definitely going to be using the hell out of it when I retire next year.


Anyone who says that dating and relationships in the US is not problematic in the face of such a high rate of unsuccess is delusional, or is really young and hasn't really lived yet.

You think 'success' is found in a stable marriage, which is not an opinion that many young people share anymore. I have plenty of problems with American culture, but you're meeting the wrong girls dude.

This probably won't get through to you, but your posts here have been full of the same trite, misogynistic, bullshit that I've heard countless times, and I think that if you address whatever anger is driving that attitude you'll find more 'success' with American women.