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Girl/Dating Age Part 2: A combined effort to give advice for those in need

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reilo

learning some important life lessons from magical Negroes
Tkawsome said:
What if you don't know your intentions early? I don't want to sleep with someone the instant I meet them, it's not until I've grown to know/like them do I start to feel any attraction.
I'm sorry, I'm confused.

Do you only try to exclusively be in a relationship with women that you have not dated? The whole idea about dating is to get to know someone to figure out whether or not you want to be exclusive with them.

But that first requires letting the other person know that you want to date them. And then progressively escalate the intimacy of the relationship while dating.

If things don't work out early on? So what? Move on, date someone else because you found your answer.

But this idea of becoming friends first with a girl and then complaining that the relationship never escalated anywhere beyond that because you weren't sure whether you liked her? *headexplode* That's what dating is supposed to be for!
 
reilo said:
But this idea of becoming friends first with a girl and then complaining that the relationship never escalated anywhere beyond that because you weren't sure whether you liked her? *headexplode* That's what dating is supposed to be for!

I'm talking about situations where you started as friends and gradually learned you liked her. From there you ask her out.
 

reilo

learning some important life lessons from magical Negroes
Tkawsome said:
I'm talking about situations where you started as friends and gradually learned you liked her. From there you ask her out.
Once you realize that you like her, let her know and ask her out?
 
How important would you guys say having a car is?
I've got a motorycle, but that's the only vehicle I own.
My mom said I could use her car for dates though
 

SRG01

Member
slopeslider said:
How important would you guys say having a car is?
I've got a motorycle, but that's the only vehicle I own.
My mom said I could use her car for dates though

Not important, especially if you live in an urban city.
 

Zekes!

Member
Alright, I need some opinions/advice about how I handled admitting to my friend I had feelings for her.

I've known her for just over a year now. Basically from the moment I met her I had a crush on her, and we became really great friends really quickly. Due to her interest in other guys and how it was apparent she thought nothing more of me than "just a friend" I decided not to pursue her in that way and managed to put my feelings for her out of my head for a while.

Fast forward to this year. We decided to apply to the same university in Toronto and move there next Fall. Over the last few months my feelings for her have resurfaced, and stronger than before, and have been steadily growing.

Anyways, basically she emailed me a couple hours ago telling me how giddy and excited she is, 'cause this guy she's been fawning over, who lives in Toronto, sent her an email telling her he wants to take her some where when she comes and yadda yadda. I ended up replying to her telling her how I felt about her. My email was simple and to the point. I said what I felt like I needed to say and that was it. I felt like I needed to get it off my chest so I could take some time out and relax and forget about it.

She hasn't replied yet, but I'm thinking of taking some "time off" for a bit and just collecting myself and moving on. I want to stay friends with her, 'cause she really is an awesome friend, but it always gets weird after things like this.

So, opinions/advice?
 
SRG01 said:
Not important, especially if you live in an urban city.
Live in the suburbs
Bus system is almost non-existant here since everyone is middle class and has a car
Well a bike is better than no car at all, I can at least meet her places if the car's taken.
 

SolKane

Member
Atramental said:
If a cute girl asks for my assistance on something 3 times in a row what does that mean? >_>

...now that I think about it, it probably has something to do with me being one of the highest scoring students in my design class. I do take my graphic design shit seriously.

So I guess it's nothing.

Fuck, I'm desperate...

Are you a virgin with women? Maybe you should try asking her for "assistance" with that problem.
 
reilo said:
Once you realize that you like her, let her know and ask her out?

Of course. My point is by then we would have already been pretty good friends, so I don't have to opportunity to make my intentions known early. If that makes any sense. Either way it's no big deal, just wanted another outlook.

With that said, things are getting pretty interesting lately. We got two new girls at my store and I'm thinking one of them is into me. She gets really close when she's talking to me (I mean really close), constantly laughs at my jokes, and has started to playfully touch me when we're joking around. I almost never pick up on this stuff, so it must be pretty blatant. The other girl works a second job with a female friend of mine. I asked if they knew each other and she said they did. Apparently they talk about me, and my friend claimed she "stalked me". Not quite sure what to make of that.
 
SolKane said:
Reeks of bitterness... don't live your life this way

Yep.

It's scary how many people I've met with this attitude toward women, but I believe that it's from deep seated frustrations stemming from the material/possessive/patriarchal society that we are in. I used to think some of these things were true too.

Dumb dumb dumb.

Zekes! said:
Alright, I need some opinions/advice about how I handled admitting to my friend I had feelings for her.

I've known her for just over a year now. Basically from the moment I met her I had a crush on her, and we became really great friends really quickly. Due to her interest in other guys and how it was apparent she thought nothing more of me than "just a friend" I decided not to pursue her in that way and managed to put my feelings for her out of my head for a while.

Fast forward to this year. We decided to apply to the same university in Toronto and move there next Fall. Over the last few months my feelings for her have resurfaced, and stronger than before, and have been steadily growing.

Anyways, basically she emailed me a couple hours ago telling me how giddy and excited she is, 'cause this guy she's been fawning over, who lives in Toronto, sent her an email telling her he wants to take her some where when she comes and yadda yadda. I ended up replying to her telling her how I felt about her. My email was simple and to the point. I said what I felt like I needed to say and that was it. I felt like I needed to get it off my chest so I could take some time out and relax and forget about it.

She hasn't replied yet, but I'm thinking of taking some "time off" for a bit and just collecting myself and moving on. I want to stay friends with her, 'cause she really is an awesome friend, but it always gets weird after things like this.

So, opinions/advice?

The good news is that the ball is in her court now and you can relax and see what happens. She can either accept what you said and realize that she has the same feelings, or tell you that she doesn't. I'd recommend taking some substantial time apart from her if she rejects your advance, though.

Keeping it simple was a very good idea, too. In person probably would have been better, but I doubt that it would make a difference. She either feels something for you or doesn't.
 

jaxword

Member
Halloween Trip report: I was at a party and was making out with a Cleopatra but we were both so drunk I accidentally ended up headbutting her snake-crown on her forehead. She got really hurt and angry and yelled at me. :(


Moral of the story: Alcohol is the source of all my success AND failures with women. Chin up, everyone, and keep trying!
 
jaxword said:
Halloween Trip report: I was at a party and was making out with a Cleopatra but we were both so drunk I accidentally ended up headbutting her snake-crown on her forehead. She got really hurt and angry and yelled at me. :(


Moral of the story: Know your alcohol limits if you want to hook up with a girl.

fixed
 

NeOak

Member
-PXG- said:
I know it's not fair, but what can I do? She was everything I've ever wanted and more. Whoever I go out with next, will have big ass shoes to fill. I feel like an asshole for even thinking that...

This still happens to me sometimes. PXG, give it more time. Don't feel like an asshole because what you are going through is quite normal. We want to reopen the door that was closed when it ended, however there is only one key in the world that fits that lock.

Bucket-o-roadkill said:
funnily enough though, thinking back to how its hard to get over girls you fall for, who you click with, do you think your ex ever thinks about you? Because i doubt mine ever thinks of me at all. Like ever, since January or something. I wish she did. Pretty sad really.

You learn to deal with it over time. People can suggest you whatever they want, but everyone deals with a situation in their own way. If you wanna go by the "ethics" route, you are supposed to do what you think, without outside influences, is a good action.

On a side note, I can't deny that I wish my ex thought about me sometimes, and I can kinda force it by being around at the same time in certain places we both go even though we look like two 8-yr old idiots who actively ignore each other. She and me, we both are idiots lol
 

Dina

Member
So, I went on a first date yesterday. It was a rescheduled one cause she couldn't go the other day, but boy was it great.

Just went for a coffee or two, but we spend two and a half hours talking without it ever getting boring. I liked it and want to see more of her and she feels te same. She looked even better then her picture online, so yay! Also some genuine IOI's from her, along with some good laughs. She even said that I walked 'tough', which is a plus I suppose. Second date soonish, I hope.

There's always a risk that it turns into best friends material when you get along so well, so I'm gonna sneak in some physical contact on the next date and see how it goes. Dinnerdate is probably next, but I wanna do something active and/or physical on the third date. Any tips from y'all?
 

Tenks

Member
Dina said:
So, I went on a first date yesterday. It was a rescheduled one cause she couldn't go the other day, but boy was it great.

Just went for a coffee or two, but we spend two and a half hours talking without it ever getting boring. I liked it and want to see more of her and she feels te same. She looked even better then her picture online, so yay! Also some genuine IOI's from her, along with some good laughs. She even said that I walked 'tough', which is a plus I suppose. Second date soonish, I hope.

There's always a risk that it turns into best friends material when you get along so well, so I'm gonna sneak in some physical contact on the next date and see how it goes. Dinnerdate is probably next, but I wanna do something active and/or physical on the third date. Any tips from y'all?


I actually had bad luck with 2.5 hour long coffee dates and having escalation. I consciously cut the date off, at maximum, one hour.
 
The Game is an interesting book that is best read as an account of the PUA scene at a certain place and time, like a documentary. You might find the dating tips helpful, but, the book itself describes women starting to become aware of the tactics being used in it back then, let alone years after its publication. So, as Tenks said... take with a pinch of salt.
 

Dina

Member
Tenks said:
I actually had bad luck with 2.5 hour long coffee dates and having escalation. I consciously cut the date off, at maximum, one hour.

Escalation? I'm not into PUA-lingo that much.

That said, there's this danger of being too friendly and buddy-buddy, not being a potential lover. But that's something to stress for the next time.
 

RedHerring

Neo Member
Zekes! said:
Alright, I need some opinions/advice about how I handled admitting to my friend I had feelings for her.

I've known her for just over a year now. Basically from the moment I met her I had a crush on her, and we became really great friends really quickly. Due to her interest in other guys and how it was apparent she thought nothing more of me than "just a friend" I decided not to pursue her in that way and managed to put my feelings for her out of my head for a while.

Fast forward to this year. We decided to apply to the same university in Toronto and move there next Fall. Over the last few months my feelings for her have resurfaced, and stronger than before, and have been steadily growing.

Anyways, basically she emailed me a couple hours ago telling me how giddy and excited she is, 'cause this guy she's been fawning over, who lives in Toronto, sent her an email telling her he wants to take her some where when she comes and yadda yadda. I ended up replying to her telling her how I felt about her. My email was simple and to the point. I said what I felt like I needed to say and that was it. I felt like I needed to get it off my chest so I could take some time out and relax and forget about it.

She hasn't replied yet, but I'm thinking of taking some "time off" for a bit and just collecting myself and moving on. I want to stay friends with her, 'cause she really is an awesome friend, but it always gets weird after things like this.

So, opinions/advice?
It's a shame that you told her how you feel like this. Perhaps she will respond positively, but since you've been friends for a long time I'd say the odds are slim. The good news is that assuming she takes it reasonably, you ought to be able to get over her and stay friends. Telling someone you like them by email...it's more of a confession than a courting. In my experience it's very difficult and rare to have your feelings reciprocated in the case of a confession. That would have to mean that underneath all of her actions with you she was really attracted to you, and too nervous to do anything about it, and that you were of course the exact same way, and that neither of you picked up on the others' feelings before. Quite an ask!

The thing about flirting and courting is that it's all to do with making the other person question "does or doesn't he (like me)?". The resulting tension, assuming the courtee is aware of it, leads him or her to consider at length whether or not the other person would make a suitable partner. The confession approach, on the other hand, generally comes out of left-field. It forces the receiver to make a snap judgement, and can often feel intrusive. If you've ever been on the receiving end of a confession from a girl then you'll know it's not exactly fun - this other person is depending upon you to make a big decision quickly, and then to announce out loud your feelings/intentions.

Another disadvantage to the confession is that it can be construed by the person on the receiving end of one as intellectually dishonest. "Does this mean the whole time we were friends he just wanted to get with me?"

Having said that, in your case Zekes it sounds like you want to get over her, so I think you did the right thing by confessing. The more you try and repress feelings, the stronger they will surface (think celibate Catholic priests and child abuse), so in the case of circumstances where a relationship might not necessarily be a good thing (e.g. a work colleague, a longlasting friendship, etc) it's often best to just confess. No guarantees but in my experience getting it out and being turned down greatly helps with getting over it, since you know the feelings aren't reciprocated.

Let's hope it goes well and your friendship can get back to normal soon!
 

Haybro

Member
Alright GAF I need some advice here…
 
This girl texted me and wants me to come to a potluck that she’s throwing with her roommates to help her make some crepes (I have no idea).   I don’t know her roommates or any of her friends at all, so this is a social anxiety nightmare for me.  When I’m in a group setting outside of my comfort zone I turn into this awkward, shy, sad excuse of a dude.
 
Also, she’s 21 and still in college and I’ve been out of school for almost 6 years…  So that’ll be another layer to my anxiety.
 
A part of me wants to just say fuck it and go for the social experiment of it all.  Plus it’s another chance to help me get over my anxiety in these situations.  The other part wants to blow it off and make up some excuse not to go because I keep picturing myself awkwardly hanging out with a bunch of college kids.
 
What would you do?
 

reilo

learning some important life lessons from magical Negroes
StereoType said:
Alright GAF I need some advice here…
 
This girl texted me and wants me to come to a potluck that she’s throwing with her roommates to help her make some crepes (I have no idea).   I don’t know her roommates or any of her friends at all, so this is a social anxiety nightmare for me.  When I’m in a group setting outside of my comfort zone I turn into this awkward, shy, sad excuse of a dude.
 
Also, she’s 21 and still in college and I’ve been out of school for almost 6 years…  So that’ll be another layer to my anxiety.
 
A part of me wants to just say fuck it and go for the social experiment of it all.  Plus it’s another chance to help me get over my anxiety in these situations.  The other part wants to blow it off and make up some excuse not to go because I keep picturing myself awkwardly hanging out with a bunch of college kids.
 
What would you do?
Go and have fun.

Quit worrying what others think of you or how you come across. If she thought you were a creep or awkward or whatever thoughts are rambling through your head right now, she wouldn't have invited you over.

Have some damn fun, participate in the conversations and enjoy the night.

Besides, you already have your answer: "say fuck it and go for the social experiment of it all".
 

Eggo

GameFan Alumnus
StereoType said:
Alright GAF I need some advice here…
 
This girl texted me and wants me to come to a potluck that she’s throwing with her roommates to help her make some crepes (I have no idea).   I don’t know her roommates or any of her friends at all, so this is a social anxiety nightmare for me. 

What would you do?
I would go and make new friends. I did this last weekend at a Halloween party. Knew only one person, and had met the hostess only one time prior. Made two new friends and spent the night. They invited me back to two other parties they're throwing later.

If you can't see yourself able to socialize in an environment like that, then you probably shouldn't go. I have a friend of a friend who is socially awkward with girls and just turtles up. You don't want to be That Guy when everyone else is having fun and you're sitting off to the side with a drink. That's not helping anybody.
 

Spacebar

Member
josephdebono said:
Will it do anything to help my self esteem (with women I like [with everyone else my self esteem is fine]) though?

I think it will a little bit. After reading I had some new social awareness things that I never picked up on such as knowing when a girl may be interested. You will start to reflect back on situations that may be similar to the book and you just failed to execute. You can take the PUA talk as serious as you like, but I think the main reason I like the story so much is Neil was willing to try something different and put himself out there.

Don't expect some secret formula that will get you women. I'm sure you will relate to the story and enjoy it just as much as I did. Hopefully after you're done reading it will inspire to you take take action in your life and start talking to some women. Good luck!
 
Online dating is frustrating business.

So I decided to re-write my profile.

When I'm not working I like to spend time in my lair resting on top of a mound of skulls where I can feed on a freshly sacrifised foal. During a full moon I shed my epidermis as the burning plates floating on top of my skin tend to harden, and thus, can hinder movement. This is not effective during my nightly hunts, obviously..

After listening to prayers from the local peasants, I like to watch movies and play the occasional video game. However, I am still at a journeyman level as I have mangled wreathed genitals for fingers and holding a controller can provide difficult.

I watch movies silent, but music, I provide an exception for as I need to dislocate my lowerjaw to allow my hearing instruments to be exposed. I am at my most vulnerable in this situation.
 

Haybro

Member
reilo said:
Go and have fun.

Quit worrying what others think of you or how you come across. If she thought you were a creep or awkward or whatever thoughts are rambling through your head right now, she wouldn't have invited you over.

Have some damn fun, participate in the conversations and enjoy the night.

Besides, you already have your answer: "say fuck it and go for the social experiment of it all".

Eggo said:
I would go and make new friends. I did this last weekend at a Halloween party. Knew only one person, and had met the hostess only one time prior. Made two new friends and spent the night. They invited me back to two other parties they're throwing later.

Yeah, thanks guys. I told her I'd go. (it's tomorrow night)

Gonna throw down a shot before hand to loosen up and just approach it with a positive attitude and have a good time. I've got nothing to lose here if things don't work out.


I'll report back if anything good happens.
 

reilo

learning some important life lessons from magical Negroes
StereoType said:
I've got nothing to lose here if things don't work out.
That's your key mindset right now.

Everyone should have a little bit of a "not give a fuck" attitude in them.
 

RhombusPrime

Neo Member
How do you deal with your girlfriend flirting/hanging out with other guys? I mean obviously I'm fine with her having guy friends she hangs out with, but for some reason I can't control getting a little upset when I see her with other dudes.
 

reilo

learning some important life lessons from magical Negroes
RhombusPrime said:
How do you deal with your girlfriend flirting/hanging out with other guys? I mean obviously I'm fine with her having guy friends she hangs out with, but for some reason I can't control getting a little upset when I see her with other dudes.
By knowing the fact that you are the one putting your P into her V and not the other dudes?
 

Minamu

Member
Dabookerman said:
Online dating is frustrating business.

So I decided to re-write my profile.
:lol PLEASE tell us about the imminent success stories.

lawlohwhat said:
Make a thread in the gaming section and get it moved. The terrible bomba jokes in the replies will sweep her off her feet.
Also, show her the thread xD
 

jaxword

Member
SolKane said:
What's the best way to ask out a girl on an internet message board?

Post a thread, get publicly humiliated from the instant 20 replies, swear off posting ever again in shame and spend the night crying and jerking off to The Facebook of Sex.
 

Darklord

Banned
Alright, GAF. Here's one. There's a girl at my work. For the last few weeks we've been joking around with each other. Sort of taking joking stabs at each other, nothing mean or anything like that. She seems to smile when I go to her area too. The thing is up until a couple of weeks ago we've never even talked. I tried finding her on facebook and maybe test the water that way but I can't find it, she might not have one. Of course. It's kinda hard to talk much at work too because we don't go on break at the same time or anything like that.

Any advice? Like even to test and see if she is interested or just being friendly? I don't want to just be full on because if she does say no...that won't be very good when I work with her. Awkward at the least.



SolKane said:
What's the best way to ask out a girl on an internet message board?
Don't? Ask for her facebook or IM. Chat more 1 on 1 there. Then ask.
 
Darklord said:
Alright, GAF. Here's one. There's a girl at my work. For the last few weeks we've been joking around with each other. Sort of taking joking stabs at each other, nothing mean or anything like that. She seems to smile when I go to her area too. The thing is up until a couple of weeks ago we've never even talked. I tried finding her on facebook and maybe test the water that way but I can't find it, she might not have one. Of course. It's kinda hard to talk much at work too because we don't go on break at the same time or anything like that.

Any advice? Like even to test and see if she is interested or just being friendly? I don't want to just be full on because if she does say no...that won't be very good when I work with her. Awkward at the least.

"Hey, I'm thinking about going out for Happy Hour this Friday. Are you interested in getting some drinks?"
 

Darklord

Banned
samus i am said:
"Hey, I'm thinking about going out for Happy Hour this Friday. Are you interested in getting some drinks?"

The other issue. I don't know that many places or people here. Basically, in a new city and only know some shit so far. Not really any of the must go to bars or anything like that. So sure, I could ask her directly like that but I'd be kinda stumped on where the fuck to go. I guess I could start looking.
 

reilo

learning some important life lessons from magical Negroes
Darklord said:
The other issue. I don't know that many places or people here. Basically, in a new city and only know some shit so far. Not really any of the must go to bars or anything like that. So sure, I could ask her directly like that but I'd be kinda stumped on where the fuck to go. I guess I could start looking.
"Hey, I'm new to the area and I don't know many good places to go to for happy hour. Do you recommend anything? Oh, that place sounds awesome. I'll go check it out Friday after work, you should go with me."
 
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