I think it is more an over expression of those qualities. Almost camp in a way,
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I think it is more an over expression of those qualities. Almost camp in a way,
Perhaps not very clear on the point I was making. It's not that I condone that treatment of men, it is merely explaining the context in which it is used. In other words ridiculing a man for expressing feminine traits, isn't necessarily about whether femininity is 'inferior' or 'superior' it is more to do with a male acting in a way this isn't overtly masculine.
The Anti-Monitor
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No, no, I think you misunderstood me. I mean that dear god the fuck is this shit.
Devolution
Member
Shopping just makes me mad.
I don't know...
I explained it here:
It was a continuation of that...
However, merely speaking about it leads you into the fiery inferno of gender politics. Men are the physically stronger sex, there is no denying that. Men were historically the ones that went off to fight wars to protect their territory. 'pussy' obviously is a slang word that is fairly modern, but it is basically the ridiculing of men that don't show overtly masculine traits or are physically weak. It is more the reasons why I think crying and showing emotion have been shunned by men rather than whether it is in itself good or bad.
Don't mind me though..,
Devolution
Member
Because I tried on a bunch of small/0 dresses yesterday and they still didn't fit. Makes the endeavor really frustrating. People talk a lot about stuff being made for skinny people but when it comes to somethings it's just not true. And I'm not about to buy some tacky junior dresses just because they fit me a bit better.
BladeWorker
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It's made for sizes 4 and 6 (maybe 8). If you're smaller or larger than that, you're going to have a hard time with fit.
Tailoring was made for girls who don't fit the mold.
Devolution
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Even some of the XS were big in the waist. Just sucks because I have curves they just start out smaller so most sizes just hang off me in the mid section.
Femmeworth
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Still need to read this.
BladeWorker
Member
It always gets me how designers will assume womens' waist and hip sizes are within four inches of one another. I shouldn't have to always choose between gaping and muffin top. That's not a fair choice at all.
Devolution
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My waist is 24 and my hip is 32/33 (I actually measure a bit closer to my thighs since those are where it's largest. I'm usually screwed unless the dress is basically the kind that just contours to your body and stretches. Even then I have to hope it runs small enough for me.
Yup, anyone who says clothing is made for skinny people has never tried shopping for such a size.
Shopping usually just makes me depressed. :/
shanshan310
Member
I've generally been very lucky with clothing, especially when I order stuff from Asia (a lot of the stores I buy from are "one size only", but while I'm usually XS here I'm more an M there). Have you tried that Devo? They make sizes much smaller than in the west.
I've had a few sad experiences trying on perfect dresses here only to find that I don't fill out the top right
Thank god I learnt how to hem pants is all I can say. The legs are always miles too long, but I guess its better than having the hips be loose and the legs still too short.
I've had a few sad experiences trying on perfect dresses here only to find that I don't fill out the top right
Thank god I learnt how to hem pants is all I can say. The legs are always miles too long, but I guess its better than having the hips be loose and the legs still too short.
BladeWorker
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We need more bespoke shops for women, I say. Men can get their fancy suits tailored and it's expected. Women? If it's not off the rack, we're weird.
Screw 'em.
Screw 'em.
Devolution
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Suits are much more streamlined for going to the tailor. Dresses? Pfft good luck.
I've generally been very lucky with clothing, especially when I order stuff from Asia (a lot of the stores I buy from are "one size only", but while I'm usually XS here I'm more an M there). Have you tried that Devo? They make sizes much smaller than in the west.
I've had a few sad experiences trying on perfect dresses here only to find that I don't fill out the top right
The stuff I've tried at asian clothing stores is way too small in the shoulders.
Not that I know of, it's just kind of assumed we're covered by juniors or petite if there are no XS/0s.
Mineshaft_Gap
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Professor Beef
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That's fantastic! How did everyone like it?
they passed the drunk test
It's no wonder your feet hurt after a while devo. I found these two short videos showing what can happen as a result of high heels:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s86ZC0NAxfM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf3GvTVs5gI
Something for all of girlgaf to consider. Maybe you have a friend addicted to high heels too, it might be good for them to see what happens down the line. Maybe it's time to ditch them all together trab?
Devolution
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The Anti-Monitor
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Everybody knows heels aren't good, long term. Just don't wear them all the time.
I love them.
I love them.
Depends entirely on the game and the dress.
shanshan310
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Me too. Heels are a sometimes thing, like cake! And if you find a good fitting pair they usually don't hurt, even tall ones!
The Anti-Monitor
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<3
It's something you gotta get used to, however. At it's always a good idea to have a backup of flats.
Devolution
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I have a really good pair but my feet hurt after any heel, it's a matter of right now or hours from now. They all put far too much pressure on the feet.
It's a good read, but a little overrated IMO. There's one section in particular that other people seem to love and I can't stand. The book needed another proofread. I still recommend it.
On your pornstars or on yourself? ;p
Well, I prefer to chat with different people. Talking to fellow white men all the time doesn't really expand your perspective in the same way.
The Anti-Monitor
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Laugh all you want but I've seen a scene where Christy Mack wears a pair of boots I own.
shanshan310
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If I have to do a lot of walking it starts to hurt, but usually I alternate between standing/dancing and sitting enough that it doesn't cause me much trouble.
Come on, show us then
trab pu kcip
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yup. I actually take sneakers with me if I know I'll have to walk home or something.
electricshake
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My problem with heels isn't just the pain but also my ability to avoid falling over. I have oddly shaped feet (wider than normal at the ball/toe end, narrower than normal at the heel) so I don't fit into most shoes very well - they tend to slip off at the back, and I also have loose ankle joints so go over on my ankle easily - not normally sore when in a pair of flats but not so good when you're a few inches higher. Also I have crappy balance.
cloudwalking
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Since I took tai chi classes, I'm pretty sure I could play football in high heels and not fall over.
My balance is iron-clad now and I feel a lot more confidence in high heels than I did before! Worth a try for some, maybe?
http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/try-tai-chi-to-improve-balance-avoid-falls-201208235198 said:
My balance is iron-clad now and I feel a lot more confidence in high heels than I did before! Worth a try for some, maybe?
clearacell
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Chiming in to say dancing in heels kind of forces the girl to dance more gracefully since she will naturally want to stay on the balls of her feet...it helps with spinning especially...but then again I'm talking about stuff like salsa dancing. If they want to do hip hop or grinding heels are detrimental to that style.
Yeah. You take it for granted, but it's some impressive shit to not only walk in heels. but to dance gracefully in them. We're talking stiletto heels as well.
looking back on my posts, I realised I didn't really address yoru point. At least not clearly. I was tired. I'll just clarify something then not mention it again. lol
There are obvious bad connotations with that word. Not only that but calling a boy "a liitle girl" for whatever reason. Men expressing their feelings in the same way as women does seem to be looked on negatively within society, especially in the past. However, I am of the opinion, and I could be wrong, but being overly emotional or expressing yourself in a way that is considered distinctly feminine is not an attractive quality in a heterosexual male. That doesn't mean simply showing emotion or affection, that wouldn't benefit a man either, but rather acting like a 'big wuss' I don't think is attractive to some women. I think women are at least attracted to masculine attributes on some level.
I've noticed also in the joke thread there are certain pictures of men acting in ways that are not typically masculine. For instance, there is a picture of a man lying on the grass naked with a love heart over his genitals. It's seen as a joke. Why? because he is acting in a way that is more associated with femininity (sensuality) than masculinity.
I think there are those that look at femininity as inferior, but I also think in the context of men, it is not necessarily entirely about whether it is 'inferior' or 'superior' but simply that it is not masculine. In other words, it may be viewed by some as acceptable and something to be admired in women. It's the context really.
I'm certainly not an uncaring person or lacking emotion, in some ways I am too caring, almost to a fault. I also think people should be free to express themselves however they want. I do think though that if I were a person that acted in ways that were overly feminine it would work against me however.
Anyway, I will stop speaking about it now. Just wanted to address your point about the bad connotations of that word.
So it is bad within society, however you think it is bad within society ?
Like it or not, women are part of society
In other words, in the patriarchal sexist society, it means something that is not ... patriarchal
Male qualities are desired on women, the oposite is not true
Well, that is one way of interpreting it. I guess what I am really saying is while culture/nurture plays a big part, I also think there is a biological component to it. From an evolutionary perspective, we're only really here to procreate. I don't think being overly feminine would benefit me in that respect. What good would it do me to act a certain way if it wasn't attractive to women? Of course I am speaking in general terms. Nature doesn't deal in absolutes. And it doesn't mean I am right. I can't really speak for women, only from my experience.
I do think we should at least strive for a fairer more equal society regardless though.
I'll just mention that I love the softness and warmth of women. Male qualities certainly aren't looked down on as much as the opposite, but the truth is, they're not qualities I am explicitly looking for. Femininity is certainly an attractive quality in women. At least for me it is.
Arsenic Yellow
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I've been wanting these forever, let me know how they are. In far too drunk atm, but I gotta link some recent buys this weekend.I'll get some pics up once the shoes come in that I ordered. Got some new red toms and these:
Hopefully they fit right.
Devolution
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Really comfy, I wish I could get it in a 7.5 though but it's not too cramped that it's unwearable. It's also much closer to a cream color than the pics let on.
Dress pic.
Devolution
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I look different in every pic. It comes with the nose.
H.Protagonist
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If you're still drinking, you should proceed to post drunk heel pics. That's how it works.
Really comfy, I wish I could get it in a 7.5 though but it's not too cramped that it's unwearable. It's also much closer to a cream color than the pics let on.
Dress pic.
Looks really good. I like the way the white sash bit is right under the chest area, and the should straps frame it all nicely. Good pick.
FallingEdge
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Really comfy, I wish I could get it in a 7.5 though but it's not too cramped that it's unwearable. It's also much closer to a cream color than the pics let on.
Dress pic.
Wow.
You look amazing.
Devolution
Member
Made it all the more exciting it was one of the dresses that fit that day. I had to have tried on at least a dozen on top of just going into stores and walking right out because they either didn't have my size period or the styles were basically teenager mode.
Thanks!
The Anti-Monitor
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Devo the dress looks great, I like the contrasting straps
I have to say though, I find it a bit strange how difficult it is for you to find clothes that fit well. Here in dirty Scandinavia every shop has a lot of really small sizes, the average size has obviously gone down in the last 10 years or so. Just a few weeks ago I found myself looking at women's jeans because I couldn't believe how small they were. The waist looked like only a 6 year old could fit into it and the legs were so small that I'd probably have a hard time getting my wrist in there. And the biggest size they had was the same size my completely average, not fat, friend wore about 10 years ago and back then that size was really the average, now the same size is the absolute biggest most shops here sell unless they have a separate "big girls" section. I also hear a lot of women complaining about how hard it is for them to find clothes that fit anymore without having to go to the big girls section and there the clothes are often too baggy. And yet if they dig up their old clothes from a few years back which still fit (meaning that they haven't just got fat and are in denial) the label says they are size M and now they have to buy XL.
Obviously it's very different in America then but here very small sizes in shops are the norm nowadays. Funnily enough I only know one girl who would be a size 0 (we don't use that term here) and while she has no problems finding clothes that fit (and she loves really tight clothes too), all the what I would call "average" sized girls have a lot more trouble finding well-fitting clothes when it used to be the other way round not that long ago.
I have to say though, I find it a bit strange how difficult it is for you to find clothes that fit well. Here in dirty Scandinavia every shop has a lot of really small sizes, the average size has obviously gone down in the last 10 years or so. Just a few weeks ago I found myself looking at women's jeans because I couldn't believe how small they were. The waist looked like only a 6 year old could fit into it and the legs were so small that I'd probably have a hard time getting my wrist in there. And the biggest size they had was the same size my completely average, not fat, friend wore about 10 years ago and back then that size was really the average, now the same size is the absolute biggest most shops here sell unless they have a separate "big girls" section. I also hear a lot of women complaining about how hard it is for them to find clothes that fit anymore without having to go to the big girls section and there the clothes are often too baggy. And yet if they dig up their old clothes from a few years back which still fit (meaning that they haven't just got fat and are in denial) the label says they are size M and now they have to buy XL.
Obviously it's very different in America then but here very small sizes in shops are the norm nowadays. Funnily enough I only know one girl who would be a size 0 (we don't use that term here) and while she has no problems finding clothes that fit (and she loves really tight clothes too), all the what I would call "average" sized girls have a lot more trouble finding well-fitting clothes when it used to be the other way round not that long ago.
trab pu kcip
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They're these:
sheet you own these shoes?
not trying to be creepy or anything but I really love to see a pic with them now too haha!looks like my heel level, although I really don't own anything quite like this^^
shanshan310
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Those are amaaaaaazing. Were they expensive?
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