Girls gets beat up over twitter bullcrap (WSHH warning)
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In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
i dunno about individuals on this thread but thats the point i think most people are making here.
Lets not act like most beat downs and sometimes murders in the hood are not cuz of same petty Bullshit as in some white neighborhoods. The only difference is in the hood, people dont talk, people dont report, people dont care and people are poor. The Bully rule is the same everywhere.
Guarantee you if this bitch knocked on the door and 2 Girls opened it, we would not have a video to make a thread about, or maybe seen some other situation. Everything i've been through, people i know be through shooting and beatdowns i've seen were mostly from the same petty reasons.
Never gotten a beatdown for alot of reasons, but I can tell you can stay "Above It all" alot of ways.
That's it, when I become a rich old white person, I'm going to adopt a young black youth off the streets.
I think I saw a show like that.........
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2232191/diffrent_strokes_opening_theme_version_1/
MiniBossBattle
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Sounds like a stressful place to live. It feels like a game of king of the hill only more twisted.
This world is completely foreign to me. Growing up, I got respect and reputation in my neighborhood by mowing lawns, helping the older folks in the area and working hard. Now I know why my parents raised me in the midwest burbs.
You're out of touch. The bully rule in a much better area means that other kids in school will pick on you. The bully rule in a shitty neighborhood means that you become a target for people twice your age and that a goon will just sit at your bus stop waiting for you to get off to get a quick easy buck from a well known bitch.
Staying above it all doesn't mean that grown ass men will all of a sudden not go to a middle school and start a fucking brawl in the parking lot.
It is a different world. I went to school with kids whose parents were both criminals. Those parents push their kids to be ruthless. Just like you have parents that want their kids to do well in school, their are parents that think doing well is being a fucking criminal that doesn't show weakness. Most of the teachers that have to deal with these type of kids aren't going to help you because they're scared of the kids too.
Devolution
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Honestly I grew up pretty sheltered but just listened to what I was being told and saw some of the places for myself on occasion. Richmond is not a place to get lost in, ever. You read about and recognized the Guy Code right? Imagine the Guy Code to its most extremes with violence at the core. If you don't put yourself on the top rungs you're getting the shit beat out of you constantly. And even being near the top of the totem pole doesn't guarantee safety because someone can just shoot you without provocation. And the exceptional people who say "hold up this is wrong", sometimes end up dead. This is not an exaggeration but a reality. If you are living in this constant fear, you will not come at most situations with a "let's talk about this" rational mind. All you know see and hear is violence and that's how you maintain a sense of self, and a sense of security however small.
When you act like the bullies or those who incite violence are not part of a larger problem, you get to just brush the issue aside and let it continue. You allow the assholes of the world who want to continue to view these people as animals rather than products (and people) of shitty economic plights and systematic racism do so with compunction. Everyone in that situation is a victim, not all of the victims are equivalent mind you, but there are no winners only losers.
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In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
thats not Bullying, thats robbery... and my point is that not the main reason why people get fucked up in the hood.
lines blurr when someone fucks u up on some petty crap and ending up takin your shit afterwards but the spark is usually:
- u lookin at me wrong
- u lookin at m girl
- u talkin bout me(OP basically)
- u know dat n***a
- u think u betta then me
- i dont like u
wow, tough beat down....o'l girl should've used that energy for athletics...MMA anyone? I mean I can't believe she dragged her that far by the hair, with o'l girl still scrapping the ground.
anyway this incident was good for EVERYONE! we need more videos like these...
first it helps that girl that got beat up seemed still fine...so nothing serious.
but what is good for everyone is, one...the girl who can't control herself is locked up, and is no danger to anyone else. And the girl who got her ass beat, learn a humble lesson.
hopefully more kids see this and more importantly the news report about other girl getting arrested, and it gives some kids second thoughts about talking shit....as well as second thoughts about responding with violence. I know I know.....it'll take a few more public beat downs and arrest...but there would be progress, I'm sure.
anyway this incident was good for EVERYONE! we need more videos like these...
first it helps that girl that got beat up seemed still fine...so nothing serious.
but what is good for everyone is, one...the girl who can't control herself is locked up, and is no danger to anyone else. And the girl who got her ass beat, learn a humble lesson.
hopefully more kids see this and more importantly the news report about other girl getting arrested, and it gives some kids second thoughts about talking shit....as well as second thoughts about responding with violence. I know I know.....it'll take a few more public beat downs and arrest...but there would be progress, I'm sure.
MiniBossBattle
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I wish children didn't have to grow up that way. I don't plan on watching the video but this thread kind of hits me hard. I don't want my daughter to ever be put in that kind of situation.
It can be hard for people outside the situation to understand completely the motivations and I swear I'm not trying to practice insensitivity to the issues facing the youth in this nation. WSHH always raises my hackles though, presenting this kind of violence without the context provided by the thread and those in it.
I think we can at least all agree that the economic and societal issues that force children into these places are completely fucked and WSHH doesn't do anything but perpetuate the issue and when charsace or someone like him comes in and says that you have to punk people sometimes to get yours, it just puts a face to the anger that I feel. Again, I apologize.
Dude who the heck is arguing with you about that point? Everyone is agreeing with you. We need that Jim Carrey gif right about now.
While I understand where Charsace and Dy are coming from (I really do), I'm going to have to disagree.
The older I get the more I think back on my childhood (+teen years) and all the bullshit that I went through. Most of it was unecessary and, looking back, completely avoidable. Yet kids continue to fall into the same traps and go through the very same bullshit, because they feel the need to protect their rep.
I mean, rep? Yeah, it seemed so important back then and worth getting into a scrap over, but it really is just bullshit.
I fully understand kids having to defend themselves from a beat down, but that's not the same as a kid going out to beat somone down because they were talking shit.
Let's not confuse what was in the video, with self defense. Let's also not condone it as something that happens and it's not a big deal. Because it should be a big deal.
The older I get the more I think back on my childhood (+teen years) and all the bullshit that I went through. Most of it was unecessary and, looking back, completely avoidable. Yet kids continue to fall into the same traps and go through the very same bullshit, because they feel the need to protect their rep.
I mean, rep? Yeah, it seemed so important back then and worth getting into a scrap over, but it really is just bullshit.
I fully understand kids having to defend themselves from a beat down, but that's not the same as a kid going out to beat somone down because they were talking shit.
Let's not confuse what was in the video, with self defense. Let's also not condone it as something that happens and it's not a big deal. Because it should be a big deal.
That had nothing to do with what I was saying about 'Ghetto sob storys'.
staticneuron
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I did grow up in rough hood (it probably still is a shithole). I lived on a street that had numerous drive-by shootings. There were several competing gangs fighting on an area less than a few miles. People talked trash I ignored them. A group tried to jump me in a school bathroom, they started swinging, I went for the leader and put his face in the mirror..... repeatedly.
The school went easy on me because I claimed self defense (very short suspension) but people got the message in school. A few other kids and I had the same reputation. You could talk trash but if you tried to fight any one of us (especially jump) we were going to do our best to make sure at least one of the attackers, had trouble getting up after the fight was over. If they could get up at all.
I took last resort to heart, but if it went that far I had no qualms about trying to hurt someone as much as possible.
EDIT: Just to clarify, most of the schools I went to in south florida had a bad rep. But there are things, you simply don't have to accept. Rejecting the mentality of jumping first doesn't mean that you are a weaker person or people will understand you are less of a threat. After something happens, just make sure people get the point that you will finish anything that is started.
MWS Natural
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Black people aren't individuals WE ARE THE COLLECTIVE.
Mushroom021
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Holy Shit!!!! She beat the crap out of her....ripped her hair out while pulling her down the stairs.
I've seen fights like that when I was in high school.
I've seen fights like that when I was in high school.
In the end you were willing to resort to violence though and had physical confrontations. I also didn't go looking for trouble, but I wasn't as honorable as you were. I didn't wait for the guy to swing. If I thought someone was trying to pop off on me I would strike at any opening that I was given. So if I could bait a guy to step close to me attempt to say something I would steal his ass no problem. Dude wants to try and start a shoving match? Act like I'm going to play along and steal his ass. Why should I fight on some other dude's terms? Better off striking first and going for the kill. We aren't sparing or taking part in some sport. there's no rule that says I have to wait for someone to start swinging or that I shouldn't swing on a guy that's dumb enough to start shit then not pay attention.
Flying_Phoenix
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What's with with World Star Hip Hop?
Serious question, why do you guys have to have a warning for it in the title?
Serious question, why do you guys have to have a warning for it in the title?
I'm curious about this as well (I've never even heard of the site until today)
Alligatorjandro
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Why would they video that?
And how come no one in her house helped her?
And how come no one in her house helped her?
Devolution
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Usually a video from there involves a beating of some sort.
highrider
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i grew up in a fairly rough neighborhood in washington dc. i was a white kid in a predominantly black public school. i ran the whole gambit of being the bitch, to fighting the world, to eventually reaching a level of mental maturity. by the time i was 16 i decided i would only fight when attacked or in defense of myself or my family. it was the most intelligent decision i ever made as a young man.
i see this type of attack as cowardly. it was planned, and sprung on an unsuspecting person. the intent was to maim or cause grave injury. you stomp on somebody's head you can kill them. i can't get behind the " well, she talked shit " response. people talking shit about you is a compliment. means they are thinking about you, checking for you. i drink in that kind of passive hate from the weak minded.
hope the girl that posted that video gets locked up and beaten down for something equally foolish and worthless.
i see this type of attack as cowardly. it was planned, and sprung on an unsuspecting person. the intent was to maim or cause grave injury. you stomp on somebody's head you can kill them. i can't get behind the " well, she talked shit " response. people talking shit about you is a compliment. means they are thinking about you, checking for you. i drink in that kind of passive hate from the weak minded.
hope the girl that posted that video gets locked up and beaten down for something equally foolish and worthless.
I'll say. She was pulled from her own fucking house is what really gets me. This is reality I guess. :/
foodtaster
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why are virtually 100% of the people in these videos minorities?
staticneuron
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I understand. But I am only talking about words there. Someone shoving me, I take as a hostile act as well. I am not going to let someone build up bravado after putting their hands on me.
Mammoth Jones
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And that's only acceptable if you believe it's acceptable to judge an entire race based off of the actions of a small amount of individuals. Which is made MUCH easier if you come from a background of having never personally interacted with them in the first place. We're not all what you see on WSHH/Fox News/BET/Youtube...etc
The burden is on them to cast aside their prejudice and judge the individual. Prejudice of any kind should NEVER be acceptable and it's pretty fucking disgusting that you'd think that WSHH needs to stop "making black people look bad" as opposed to people needing to stop judging the entirety of blackdom off of the occasional douchebag internet video.
We're not a fucking collective.
You didn't argue any of the individual reasons I gave for that notion, instead you just got more angry and defensive. You have to judge the individual, I agree. But you also need to realize the reality that people are going to think this. I am not calling black people a collective for gods sake, so over dramatic.
"Prejudice of any kind should NEVER be acceptable and it's pretty fucking disgusting that you'd think that WSHH needs to stop "making black people look bad" as opposed to people needing to stop judging the entirety of blackdom off of the occasional douchebag internet video."
It's not the occasional douche bag internet video, it is a constant stream of uploaded videos featuring mainly poor black people fighting. This is not some rarity, WSHH constantly has new videos of the above uploaded and served daily. Hell you hear the people watching the fights constantly saying "WORLD STAR HIP HOP". This is not really argueable.
So WSHH bares zero accountability for continually posting poor people fighting, who happen to be black. Yes it's the individuals in those video's faults to begin with, but the website is profiting off this. And while doing so, making everyone look bad. It just happens that most of the fights are of black folks. It's not disgusting that I am stating reality. For god sakes man, sometimes people have to take responsibility. Meaning the website should realize what it's doing, they probably do and just don't give a fuck.
And just so you stop with the drama, I do not think black people are bad or all fight like this. This just does not help ANYONES image.
I know I am not going to change anyone's mind here man, I am not trying to. Just stating my opinion. But for you to call my opinion disgusting when my points are very valid, just irks me some. I totally see where you are coming from, just bothers me that you can't see what I am saying at all.'
Sorry double posted had to make this separate.
Sorry double posted had to make this separate.
Mammoth Jones
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I can only be responsible for myself. It's not my job to be concerned about how other races are going to interpret a video on a shitty hip hop site. They're going to use that as an example to reinforce their preconceived notions regardless.
The insinuation that it's up to "us" to change "our" behavior via items like WSHH videos when the internet is chocked full of videos from every race/ethnicity/religion/orientation doing equally bad shit is just flat out disgusting.
I'm done. Cheers mate.
Classy, I never said once it's up to you or black people. And you specifically said you are tired of all the WSHH hate compared to liveleak and youtube.
But ya call my opinion disgusting and don't argue anything specifically. Generalize everything I said to fit your world view, whatever works for you. Cheers.
But ya call my opinion disgusting and don't argue anything specifically. Generalize everything I said to fit your world view, whatever works for you. Cheers.
CrushDance
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I get what you're saying Riggs, but are you not generalizing by stating that "This makes black people look bad"? or that ethnic groups would view black people as such? How can you know for sure either way?
The reason Mammoth Jones is saying those things is because it is incredibly hurtful and something that black people have to face all the time. You, we, are never responsible for our actions or viewed as individuals. Everyone expects us to act, dress and talk a certain way. It's very damaging and ignorant to see a singular websites video's as something that could possibly represent an entire group of people. We are not a political party or something. We're individual people.
Ya I know you are right 100% it's just the way the site is that bothers me. Making money off this shit, just makes everyone look bad. I don't view it like this personally but I certainly know people who do. I don't know I can't explain it properly I guess.
Riggs, the discussion will go better, if you stop speaking to what "people" will think, and just bring your own view. If you feel it makes black people look bad (going to be hard to argue that you don't at this point), just say it.
Also, referring to the black people you see on WSHH as poor is eventually going to bother someone.
Also, referring to the black people you see on WSHH as poor is eventually going to bother someone.
"By the way I LOVE fight videos but WSHH is a joke. It makes black people look bad as a community to your normal white person who understands what WSHH is. I am white, I am not fucking racist, but it's the truth. I know better and there is white fights on there too. But most of it's black and does not further any positivity. There is something inherently different about WSHH to me, when I hear a guy say in the background "this goin on world star hip hop" it makes me cringe."
My first comment. I am not some closet racist, if I had a problem with black's I would say it. I am not a pussy. I am actually capable of viewing things from more then one viewpoint. On one hand, yep it makes black people look bad. On the other I know I cannot group an entire race of people into 1 thought group based off WSHH or anything else for that matter.
It's not impossible to view things from more then one point of view, not everything is black and white (no horrible pun intended).
As far as your comment about me saying they are poor, sorry dude look at the people fighting on these video's they are not exactly fighting in the suburbs. Jesus christ. Most of the videos are ghetto ass brawls ...
The fact remains the site is a cesspool and it does nothing to shed a positive light on blacks, or any race. But in this case considering Hip Hop is predominantly performed by Blacks .... I don't think it's an insane reach to equate that this site could possibly be making black people look bad. Again before all the outrage, read what I just wrote in my first paragraph. I know you cannot group an entire race of people like that, but you have to at least see where I am coming from. I certainly see what you are all saying ...
I Stalk Alone
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I hope for your sake you are out of that world and have entered a better one where you have left the ideals of that old world behind. If you are still in that old world and are happy to be there, then I hope you do not take those attitudes with you in other subcultures where that sort of thing is condemned as you would be in jail by now.
People have been sucker punched and died not due to the punch but the nature of the fall. You are lucky your punch was weak enough to knock the person out hitting the pavement and causing a severe head or spinal trauma.
CrushDance
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Ironically, I feel the same way. It "makes black people look bad" but that's because of the mindset I have whereby people always say "Black people". Sucks big-time.
Wow just forget it, disregard everything else I wrote.
ShinobiFist
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I don't agree with sucker punching her like that. But expect to catch a beating for talking shit, period.
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