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Google's picasa is the most amazing software I've ever used..

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Fatalah

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Its just beautiful. Its programmed with style and grace, I can't believe how dramatic my life is made out to be when I use it.

PICASA is a photo organizer, great for those of us with hundreds of digital photos on our hardrive. You guys gotta check it out if you haven't yet.

Go to google.com and click MORE
 

Pochacco

asking dangerous questions
I heard about it a while ago, but didn't bother downloading it...
...but, based on this thread, I decided to give it a try.

WOW. The interface is NICE. Very slick.
I don't know if I have much use for this...but it's really nice. And Free! Google rocks.
 

Pochacco

asking dangerous questions
Wow - that Timeline thing is cool!!
This thing kind of reminds me of a Microsoft Longhorn OS demo I was shown by some MS guys - except it actually works!
 
Really nice. It seems to run a lot more smoothly than ACDSEE or however that's spelled. Didn't have good results with that program.
 

Lathentar

Looking for Pants
Pochacco said:
Wow - that Timeline thing is cool!!
This thing kind of reminds me of a Microsoft Longhorn OS demo I was shown by some MS guys - except it actually works!
No kidding. The Google guys probably saw it, were like hey we can get that out in a couple months and bam! they did.
 

aoi tsuki

Member
i finally tried it out a few days ago. Nice interface and a quick searching feature but for my uses, it falls behind my the software that came with my Canon digicam, Zoombrowser. The timeline feature is well-done (Canon has something similar called Timetunnel), but pretty useless for me. i prefer the zooming feature of Zoombrowser because i can look at a group of thumbnails and find what i'm looking for faster than with the timeline. ZB does pretty much everything Picasa does, Picasa's just prettier and faster in some cases. And Picasa doesn't recognize RAW files, which i use pretty much exclusively except for things i know are going directly to web.

Still, it's a great piece of freeware. i uninstalled it; hopefully it didn't leave anything that might try to send my email address to Picasa/Google.
 

aoi tsuki

Member
Rorschach said:
What's the catch?
Can't find the link, but there's been a couple of reports that the program scans your hard drive for your email address, registering you with the company. i'm not sure if it's a legitimate issue; seems like it would've been posted at slashdot at the least, but considering the fact that Picasa was a ~$30 program, and Google's offering it for free, and the fact that their latest offerings, well, GMail specifically, have really made them spell out their privacy stance, it really makes you realize that Google is at its core no better than Microsoft, Yahoo!, etc.

Out of curiousity, have any of you gotten emails from Google or Picasa, thanking you for registering Picasa? i disabled all attempt by the program to contact outside servers. Hopefully that was enough.
 

Jill Sandwich

the turds of Optimus Prime
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Later, at Google Towers...
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Bingo!
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Socreges

Banned
Whatever. Still great. Slideshows for 50 pictures of one event = rock.

And the Timeline will be great for all the pictures that I've taken, and will take, of our kitten.
 

cs060mk2

Member
I have a massive (2.5 gig) picture collection that I have been building up since about 1998. I put different pictures in different subfolders in different categories like:
/bikes
/computers
/computers/amiga
/consoles/hardware/snes.

you get the point..

I have been using ACDSee classic since about 98 too. It's one piece of software I cant live without and I use it on a daily basis.

So I was very interested to try this out after reading this thread.
However there are some things I dont understand.

In Picasa a folder is named an "album" and it prints all my folders and subfolders after name or after date. Somehow it doesnt make it easier to find a picture. Say I want to look at my wallpaper folder, in the subfolder "tiled wallpaper" and in its subfolder "cool tiled wallpaper" I then have to remember what the sub-sub folder was named to find it in the Picasa menu.

So I dont think its easier to find a picture in Picasa.. but maybe Im using this "revolutionary" program wrong ?!
 

Mugen

Banned
do I have to unzip files to open it look at it?

I usually use ACDSEE but if this is tons better, I might actually switch.
 

cs060mk2

Member
Yes I can probably search for it. But whats worse is that my file hiearchy gets totally wrong since Picasa lists my folders alphabetically in flat mode instead of correctly with my sub-folders under other folders.. So if I have a sub-folder in /video-games/01 it "01" gets listed at the top.

If I know where the folder 01 is, ie its in "video-games" it makes sence. But if a picture viewer flattens out the folder hierarchy and lists 01 at the top between 001, 003, 01 it makes no sense!

So it looks like ACDSee Classic will do it for the next 6 years to :)
 

DaCocoBrova

Finally bought a new PSP, but then pushed the demon onto someone else. Jesus.
I have close to 10,000 images and find the photo viewer in XP coupled w/ a thumbnail view to be all I need...


Wouldn't using Picassa be somewhat redundant?
 

aoi tsuki

Member
Yeah, XP does a good job of image-management with explorer. The album-based image management programs like are really just adding another layer of wording to "simplify", but i think those of us who've been doing this ourselves for years won't find much use for them. Albums in these programs are to folders as folders are to directories -- basically it's just another naming convention for the same thing. i do like using Zoombrowser for my digital camera shots because it lets me view my entire collection at once.

Same thing with iTunes. i despite having something like 15,000 files, i knew where almost everything was because i had sorted it into folders. i even knew what the unsorted files were. i was really pissed when it "sorted" my files into folders because it screwed up years of ordering, created a few hundred folders in one, dumped a few thousand untagged files in the root of my music folder, and then made duplicates of some files.

DaCocoBrova, you might wanna look into Pixvue. It integrates into explorer and lets you make collections, annotate files, make PDF or HTML slideshows and more. i don't have much need for this myself, but i find the extended EXIF info that it adds to the file properties window really useful and easier to read than XPs. Also, since it's integrated (rather seemlessly might i add) into explorer, it doesn't use any additional resources. i just wish it supported RAW files...
 
My issue with Picassa is that it doesn't recognize that subfolders are a part of a larger whole. If I have one folder containing a category of files, and three subfolders each containing a different set, then Picassa sees three separate folders and doesn't account for the fact that they are supposed to be grouped together.

For an avid collecter of, uh... jpegs, and one that sorts them dillegently, Picassa actually makes viewing my sets more of a hassle because every set is thrown into one big list. There is no accounting for what(who) the set is a part of. ACDsee classic is still my go-to app for viewing and managing with these large volumes.

However, Picassa is perfect for my shutter-bug sister-in-law who dumps a mini-cd a month of pictures of my young nieces. Since she already tried to sort the pictures by month and year, and I refined the process, Picassa works great. The timeline feature seems like it was made for her.
 

Zaptruder

Banned
It's nice... but it doesn't quite suit my purposes... plus it's not quite as well intergrated as ACDSee.

Normally I browse through my folders with explorer and right click > Browse with acdsee.

Plus, the difficulty with accessing or outright lack of features like Full view and Zoom is disconcerting... especially when viewing through manga.

And while it's not Picassa's fault, I'm not sure I want all my porn on open display... and there's alot of it :(
 
aoi tsuki said:
it really makes you realize that Google is at its core no better than Microsoft, Yahoo!, etc.
Well, better and freer can make a pretty big difference in what we'll accept.

I'll have to check Picasa out. I saw ads for it at Google Image Search, but presumed it was just some new annoying third-party ad.
 

Lathentar

Looking for Pants
You can't turn off the fading during Slideshows!! I hate that.

However, one advantage I saw over ACDSee Classic was auto-fit to screen for each image when doing a full screen slideshow. That would be nice.
 
Picassa does dither better than ACDsee, or anti-alias or whatever.

Some things that are supposed to be round, don't look quite round, y'know?
 

tedtropy

$50/hour, but no kissing on the lips and colors must be pre-separated
Neat, looks like something that'd run on OS X. Wheter or not it'll phase out ACDSee 3.1's reign as my favorite viewer, eh...we'll see.

UPDATE: Upon using it for awhile it looks like this apps suffers from dreaded "pretty interface, limited functionality" syndrome. Don't get me wrong, for a free app, it's wonderful, but whatever resampling algorithm its using during the slideshow mode is horrible and its features just don't compete with ACDSee. If I could somehow combine the interface/effects of Picasa with the older ACDSee it'd be a sweet, sweet smores of a viewer app...
 

Lord Error

Insane For Sony
However, one advantage I saw over ACDSee Classic was auto-fit to screen for each image when doing a full screen slideshow. That would be nice.
You can, of course, do that in ACDSEE Classic as well. There's an option in the settings that does that, and you can also press * on the num keypad to perform the function individually. It's funny, but I use years old ACDSEE 2.43 (or something like that) and it does absolutely everything a good image viewer is supposed to do, even has keyboard shortcuts for every function I'd like it to have.
 

Zaptruder

Banned
ACDSee was way ahead of its time.

But they've bloated it badly... I hope Picasa will take the keys to the kingdom by incorporating the wonderful usability of ACDSee with it's own smooth smooth bits... and er... taking the good parts of Iphotos would also be a good idea.
 

Vgamer

Member
Wow Picasa is a cool program. Downloaded it last night. Very well laid out. Awesome Free Program! Thanks for tellin us about it!
 

aoi tsuki

Member
How does ACDSee Classic compare to Irfanview? XP explorer does a good enough job for most of my needs and Irfanview handles most of the rest (it views RAW files too). i started to download ACDSee Classic but realized it wasn't freeware. Is it that much better than Irfanview or Picasa?
 

cybamerc

Will start substantiating his hate
ACDSee isn't much better. It's really just a more polished product. The thumbnail browser is better integrated, you can print a contact sheet without first saving to a file, the keyboard controls are a little better (IMO) and it looks a lot neater. Irfanview is free though which makes it a winner for me. If you watch a lot of pics on your comp ACDSee may be worth the money though.
 
This is really slick, I like the interface and all, but uh, after having installed it I can see how useless it is for me. Meh. :p Thanks for the heads up though.

Also, I can't remember, but did the program ever ask upon install if it should run at startup? Not a big deal, everyone else does it, but I find it such a peeve.
 
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