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Gran Turismo 5 | NeoGAF Racing League | One-off races
- Thread starter Angst
- Start date
Credits to Polyphony for the Logo and Niks for this week's banner!
Super GT500 2012 Event
Everybody is welcome to join.
BUT: practice and make sure you know the track and the car before the race, clean racing is a must in the weekly races.
Race starts in:
Allowed cars:
Super GT 500 (no stealth cars)
Click here for full car list (ignore the part about duplicate liveries for this race)
Tuning allowed:Click here for full car list (ignore the part about duplicate liveries for this race)
Tuning of existing parts is allowed. No extra parts, except Lexus.
Cars will be limited to 502 BHP / 1100 KG
Lexus cars will be allowed Turbo Stage 2
Tyre SelectionCars will be limited to 502 BHP / 1100 KG
Lexus cars will be allowed Turbo Stage 2
Racing
Track: Circuit de Spa-Francorchamps (Remember that you need to purchase the track to be able to participate!
Laps:20
Pit Stops:
No mandatory pit stops
Damage
Heavy
AssistsABS
TCS
Lounge Settings:TCS
Tyre/Fuel wear: On
Slip stream: Weak
Tyre grip: Realistic
Players Participating (14 / 16):Slip stream: Weak
Tyre grip: Realistic
- 01 - Angst
- 02 - Toxa
- 03 - asclepio_gtr
- 04 - paskowitz
- 05 - magawolaz
- 06 - weekend_warrior
- 07 - Polyphony
- 08 - Niks
- 09 - SpeedOfNuts
- 10 - Ashk
- 11 - 2scoops
- 12 - chillumhilla
- 13 - Kaze13
- 14 - MikeDub
- 15 - brunoa76
- 16 -
- R1 - syn23
- R2 - Metalmurphy
- R3 -
- R4 -
- R5 -
Race procedure:
Lounge opens - 7.00 PM GMT
Lounge reset - 7.55 PM GMT
Qualifications start - 8.00 PM GMT
Race start 8.15 PM GMT
IMPORTANT - PLEASE READ: Rules and Regulations
Lounge reset - 7.55 PM GMT
Qualifications start - 8.00 PM GMT
Race start 8.15 PM GMT
IMPORTANT - PLEASE READ: Rules and Regulations
Additional rules:
Standing start
Always make sure at least one pair of wheels are inside the white lines! Using the run-off areas as "long-cuts" or short-cuts is not allowed and will be strictly enforced. Missing a brake point and thus overshooting into run-off areas is ok, but when you rejoin the track you must wait until cars close behind you has passed. Missing a brake point is a mistake and should lead to you having less speed out the corner, not more.
Lounge:
Race will be in the GT5NRL lounge, please add this account to your Friends list. Practice sessions will also be held in the same lounge.
Updated:
Laps
Thanks for the post toxa, I've updated the OP and reposted it myself as well now.
I must say that I'm really impressed by the banner Niks! It looks awesome! Going to post it in the GT5 threads as well.
I'll probably be doing some laps on Spa tonight at ~21.00 CET in the NRL lounge.
I must say that I'm really impressed by the banner Niks! It looks awesome! Going to post it in the GT5 threads as well.
I'll probably be doing some laps on Spa tonight at ~21.00 CET in the NRL lounge.
chillumchilla
Member
Sign me up for Sunday please.
Some pics from New Year Event.
Lap 2. 2Scoops(11th) chasing chilla loses control.
Lap 5. Syn(8th) leading Weekend_Warrior leading chilla.
Lap 8. Weekend_Warrior(8th) overtakes Syn after straight.
Lap 11. Kaze(6th) vs SpeedofNuts(5th) vs Dibbz(4th) with Ashk far ahead on the bridge
Lap 17. chilla(9th) with good tyres finally overtakes Syn(10th) struggling on well worn tyres.
fin.
Some pics from New Year Event.
Lap 2. 2Scoops(11th) chasing chilla loses control.
Lap 5. Syn(8th) leading Weekend_Warrior leading chilla.
Lap 8. Weekend_Warrior(8th) overtakes Syn after straight.
Lap 11. Kaze(6th) vs SpeedofNuts(5th) vs Dibbz(4th) with Ashk far ahead on the bridge
Lap 17. chilla(9th) with good tyres finally overtakes Syn(10th) struggling on well worn tyres.
fin.
Thanks, it came out great.
What time is that EST?
Also, paskowits asks if Stealth models are allowed?
I think the Stealth cars are slightly more powerful than normal models, so I'd say no?
That's in three hours:
Sure, why not?
Yep, pretty much. Anything mentioned in my OP that conflicts with the linked rules automatically takes precedence.
I'm 99.9% sure they are just reskins. (And there is only one stealth Super GT car to my knowledge, the NSX)
I don't know first hand since I don't own any, I'm just going by what I read in the OT and gtplanet.
edit: one quick google later:
edit: one quick google later:
weekend_warrior
Banned
We should just use the GT500 car restriction setting for simplification.
Didn't know that, but in that case the stealth cars are not allowed.
EarsOfASnake
Member
Sign me up for SuperGT, I shall have no fun driving the lexus.
100 KG ballast for the Lexus.
EarsOfASnake
Member
Not that excited about the strategy choices as I can't be bothered to fuss too much over it. But it will certainly be an interesting race if there are major differences in strategy. I have some unusual ideas, I wonder if someone will go with one for the race.
Angst, you should finalize the race length as soon as possible so people can start working it out.
Angst, you should finalize the race length as soon as possible so people can start working it out.
Yep, all compounds allowed. I have no idea how it's going to turn out, but it should be interesting. When I was on softs and all the other racers on hards I pulled away like crazy. So much that it might actually be worth doing more pits.so meds and soft tires are allowed ? cool the strategy will be really crucial I like it
If you have trouble controlling the car I recommend going with softs. If you're going to crash using hards you'll have to pit more often than the other guys anyway, so by using softs you might get a closer race.
I could do 5ish laps on softs, compared to 10ish on hards. Mediums should naturally be somewhere in between. I'd very much like to hear your thoughts on this (if you want to keep it close to the vest that's cool too).
Length has been finalized. 20 laps.
Yep, stealth cars are out.
I only tested the softs once yesterday and I think I did about 4 or 5 laps on them before we started a race. By that point they were about as fast as hards at the start of the stint IIRC. So I think I could maybe pull off 8 laps on them, but I have no idea what times I'd be making by the end of the stint and if it would be worth it.
The hards could easily last 10+ laps but I don't think I did more than 5 laps on them so I don't know how the lap times after that look like.
Haven't done any running on the mediums, but if they're between the softs and hards I guess it's possible to one stop a race on them. Again, I have no idea about the times so I don't know what is fastest.
Got more testing to do
The hards could easily last 10+ laps but I don't think I did more than 5 laps on them so I don't know how the lap times after that look like.
Haven't done any running on the mediums, but if they're between the softs and hards I guess it's possible to one stop a race on them. Again, I have no idea about the times so I don't know what is fastest.
Got more testing to do
chillumchilla
Member
I tend to drive quite slow and hopefully consistent so I guess Hard Tyres would be my best option. Though if I keep crashing I could go for medium. And if I'm a complete disaster soft it is!
Therefore must practice on all the tyres methinks.
Perhaps I can outpit a naturally faster more aggressive driver?
Therefore must practice on all the tyres methinks.
Perhaps I can outpit a naturally faster more aggressive driver?
EarsOfASnake
Member
I didn't think the tyre compounds worked correctly in gt5, did they fix it recently?
Things like this is what will (hopefully) make this race extra interesting. When I was on softs I easily outraced ashk, niks and patau. And that's not something that happens very often. Actually I didn't know that I was on another compound so I was really happy, but as my distance grew lap after lap I kinda figured out something was wrong...
Bear in mind that tuning is allowed, which makes for some extra tactical issues for you drivers:
You can use one setup and compound for qualification and another setup for the race. Remember that the times set doesn't reset anymore when exiting to the lounge.
I'm not sure how to take advantage of this properly, but one idea might be to do the quali on softs, lower gearing (as you won't have any slipstream to factor in) and a suspension setup that makes for faster cornering but eats tyres. Then change to a hards, higher gearing (to be able to take full advantage of slipstream) and a suspension setup that is easier on the tyres for the race.
Taking full advantage of this of course makes you run some extra risks... mistime the quali window and you will be forced to race on quali settings - or actually be left in the lounge as the race starts!
Could another French enter the show ? (don't panic : I am much slower than Toxa
Of course, you've been added to the grid. Remember to send a friend request to GT5NRL.
Since we are going with heavy damage, another thing to take into consideration is...
Braking spots and mid corner speeds are very different between the compounds so everyone has to be careful with traffic.
If you are on softs, the car in front might be on hards, hence he will brake earlier than you.
Be careful not to ram him from behind.
Braking spots and mid corner speeds are very different between the compounds so everyone has to be careful with traffic.
If you are on softs, the car in front might be on hards, hence he will brake earlier than you.
Be careful not to ram him from behind.
Good points. Everyone, take note! Thankfully the car on softs will brake a lot faster, but in close quarters this might be tricky.
I think we'll run with weather off (I'll set the lounge to 25 % and changeability to 0).
Yeah weather off is a good idea, it's enough trying to wrap my head around the various dry strategies
The difference in braking distance between hards and softs is actually smaller than I thought it would be. But there is another thing to consider: tyre wear. If you're on fresh softs catching up to someone on worn hards (as will probably be the case for people with soft tyre strategy), the differences will be much greater than they would be at the start of the race when everyone's tyres were fresh.
edit: And also, as much as the faster driver behind needs to be careful not to hit the car in front during braking, the driver in front needs to be aware of the driver behind and what he's doing so he doesn't turn in on him or cut him off.
The difference in braking distance between hards and softs is actually smaller than I thought it would be. But there is another thing to consider: tyre wear. If you're on fresh softs catching up to someone on worn hards (as will probably be the case for people with soft tyre strategy), the differences will be much greater than they would be at the start of the race when everyone's tyres were fresh.
edit: And also, as much as the faster driver behind needs to be careful not to hit the car in front during braking, the driver in front needs to be aware of the driver behind and what he's doing so he doesn't turn in on him or cut him off.
because it's banned in some racing sport like F1
but if you disagree it's not a big deal actually I don't care xDBTW
you can only limit the bhp at 500 or 510 but not 502 so what is the real restriction ? 500 or 510 ?
lol turlututu is behind us
sale mec ;p
I think we should ban some odd tires style like racing med front and racing soft rear something like that .
it's racing hard, soft or meds nothing else
lol turlututu is with us
I disagree. That was one of the unusual strategies that I wanted to see. I don't think that I'll be using it myself because it kinda ruins the balance of the car for me, but I can't say for sure what other people are thinking.
It's against the rules in F1, but in some other championships it isn't. There are many occasions where drivers go with rain tyres on the front and slicks on the back on a front-wheel drive car when the track is wet but drying.
No humidity, 25% weather just means slightly overcast.
As for different tyres, knock yourself out.
BHP can only be limited at weird values, so it's 502.
weekend_warrior
Banned
My ride for the race- Lamborghini NOMAD Diablo GT-1 '00
My ride for the race- Lamborghini NOMAD Diablo GT-1 '00
Hum....
The Diablo is kinda iffy, but I think I'll allow it if nobody throws a fit over it.
weekend_warrior
Banned
I didn't notice you posted a list, I thought all SuperGT cars were allowed, except the stealth versions. I can change if it's a problem.
Metalmurphy
Member
I remember the Lamborghini NOMAD Diablo GT-1 '00 being a no go car for either being too fast or too slow. Can't remember which.
asclepio_gtr
Member
Planning 2 pitstops with race soft... Am I doing wrong?
I dug up seattle's test of all the cars and it was rather fast, but not by much and pretty hard to handle as well. I think the main reason we disallowed it was that it was a fantasy car.
Metalmurphy
Member
I don't wanna give away too much of my strategy but here goes... I'm going sports soft. I'll increase my pace two times at the start and then go AFK and come back in 27 minutes. I'm expecting an easy win and 4 mil credits.
:lol
Well I know it's not really a fantasy car, but I think mush considered it out of place. Or something like that...?
