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Gran Turismo 5 | NeoGAF Racing League | One-off races
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EarsOfASnake
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EarsOfASnake
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andshrew said:
If MM or angst can get on an verify then that would be great, if not then just add my PSN (in profile) and join from there.
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
Hey Mike I can just get in thru the GT5NRL's coffe cup, right?
I'll def try to be there for the race even if family is making it a bit more difficult than I'd like.
Regarding the lag thing, we never tried that in the end so I guess I'll race and hopefully for sunday evenings my ISP isn't traffic clogged but if it's bad I'll drop out myself otherwise if I'm the one bothering you guys just kick me out (hopefully not, lol, but understandable just in case).
I HATE Tsubuka tho
Edited: I noticed there's a world of difference whenever a room has voice chat enabled it is much worse, tho I dunno if that was just bad luck with the hosts
I'll def try to be there for the race even if family is making it a bit more difficult than I'd like.
Regarding the lag thing, we never tried that in the end so I guess I'll race and hopefully for sunday evenings my ISP isn't traffic clogged but if it's bad I'll drop out myself otherwise if I'm the one bothering you guys just kick me out (hopefully not, lol, but understandable just in case).
I HATE Tsubuka tho
Edited: I noticed there's a world of difference whenever a room has voice chat enabled it is much worse, tho I dunno if that was just bad luck with the hosts
EarsOfASnake
Member
Yeah, the coffee cup is way in. I will have the lounge up at the top of the hour folks can join, I wont be around until 30-45mins after though.
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
No prob.MikeDub said:
Anyway, as I was saying, will voice chat be enabled? I noticed there's a world of difference whenever a room has voice chat enabled it is a much less smooth experience, tho I dunno if that was just bad luck with the hosts
EarsOfASnake
Member
Dash Kappei said:
no voice
MikeDub said:
Everybody is welcome to join.
Race starts in:
Allowed car :
Clio Renault Sport v6 24v '00
Tuning allowed:
NONE
Tyre Selection
Sports Soft
Track:
Tsukuba Circuit
Laps:
30 (tentatively)
Pit Stops:
No mandatory pit stops
Damage
Heavy
Assists
ABS
Players Participating (12 / 16):
01 - MikeDub
02 - Xun
03 - Dibbz
04 - Gynoug79
05 - Niks
06 - weekend_warrior
07 - paskowitz
08 - Risk Breaker
09 - magawolaz
10 - ashk
11 - Dash Kappei
12 - Ainaurdur
13 -
14 -
15 -
16 -
Race procedure:
Lounge opens - 20.00 CET
Lounge reset - 20.55 CET
Qualifications start - 21.00 CET
Race start 21.15 CET
IMPORTANT - PLEASE READ: Rules and Regulations
Additional rules:
Standing start
Lounge:
Race will be in the GT5NRL lounge, please add this account to your Friends list. Practice sessions will also be held in the same lounge.
Requoting.
So to get things clear, we are going to race with the clio as it is out of the dealership?
No oil change no nothing? Or can we buy non HP/PP parts (transmission, suspension etc.)
EarsOfASnake
Member
@niks Sports softs are the only thing to add, nothing else required. BHP is limited to 236 due to the arbitrary slider too :S
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
So net even air filters and such?MikeDub said:
EarsOfASnake
Member
Nothing, nadda, zip.Dash Kappei said:
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
Sorry guys, can't finish. I was literally driving with one arm and arguing with the other, I've spun two times 'cause of that... Still 5th but I've gotta free the tv.
Fuck my fiancee, soo pissed. I think I'm leaving her.
SORRY
Fuck my fiancee, soo pissed. I think I'm leaving her.
SORRY
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
Tsubuka is really boring tho. Very difficult to have a nice fight. i had a false start so I was last and then and I watched the clusterfuck happening behind the enemy lines on corner #1 and #4 and just passed a bunch
I'm really happy with the fact that I haven't suffered lag at all despite the majority of you guys being from the US.
I'm really happy with the fact that I haven't suffered lag at all despite the majority of you guys being from the US.
weekend_warrior
Banned
Great battle between Niks and ThePatriot, it looked like they were never more then about 2 inches apart from each other. Volcanux get in the way a little too much though, he actually almost spun Niks out once by undercutting him in a corner. When the leaders are battling like that you really need to show respect and get out of the way.
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
Let's not overreact, as long as we're not careless jerks it should be all good
Once again, I love how smooth the race was, best lag-free experience I've had on GT5 online!
Now I know I can take part in GAF races myself, yay
Once again, I love how smooth the race was, best lag-free experience I've had on GT5 online!
Now I know I can take part in GAF races myself, yay
Great race overall. One make races are always interesting.
Started from pole but cooked the first 2 turns due to cold tires and Patriot took this chance to snatch first place from me. The rest of the race was very even, and while I was faster I felt I couldn't make a passing move without risking damage. Patriot held his ground and didnt make any big mistakes.
Xun, no hard feelings but you were being lapped dude, there was no need to make it soo hard for us to pass you (specially since there was an ongoing fight for first place) and once we pass you, you divebomb into me at turn one....
Again, no hard feelings but next time be more careful.
Its great to see new faces, hopefully we will have more attendees next week at SPA
PD: Thanks WW for giving us room.
Two quick pics form the race.
Started from pole but cooked the first 2 turns due to cold tires and Patriot took this chance to snatch first place from me. The rest of the race was very even, and while I was faster I felt I couldn't make a passing move without risking damage. Patriot held his ground and didnt make any big mistakes.
Xun, no hard feelings but you were being lapped dude, there was no need to make it soo hard for us to pass you (specially since there was an ongoing fight for first place) and once we pass you, you divebomb into me at turn one....
Again, no hard feelings but next time be more careful.
Its great to see new faces, hopefully we will have more attendees next week at SPA
PD: Thanks WW for giving us room.
Two quick pics form the race.
Good to hear you guys had a good race in my absenceNiks said:Its great to see new faces, hopefully we will have more attendees next week at SPA
As you say next Sunday will be all about Spa Francorchamp. Apparently only the host need to buy the track, so if someone is low on funds, this will be a good day to test it.
I will also do a public lobby on Tuesday at ~19.00 CET. Spa, new kart track, new cars and Kazmobile is to be expected.
Xun said:
you interfere during the battle between niks and paskowitz by blocking them for some reason ... and Niks has sustained damages, it's unacceptable.
he had to rethink his strategy and altered the course of the race
Fortunately he managed to catch up paskowitz.
don't take it personally, but such things should not happen.
next time be careful
also special credtis to weekend_warrior and paskowits who managed to hold off niks
This I agree withToxa said:next time be careful
A notice to everyone - set your map zoom at 2 or 3, allowing you to see other cars in your vicinity. Personally I use map zoom 3, which gives me both total awareness of cars around me and a bit in front and behind (especially behind as I tend to look forward
)Niks said:Great race overall. One make races are always interesting.
Started from pole but cooked the first 2 turns due to cold tires and Patriot took this chance to snatch first place from me. The rest of the race was very even, and while I was faster I felt I couldn't make a passing move without risking damage. Patriot held his ground and didnt make any big mistakes.
Xun, no hard feelings but you were being lapped dude, there was no need to make it soo hard for us to pass you (specially since there was an ongoing fight for first place) and once we pass you, you divebomb into me at turn one....
Again, no hard feelings but next time be more careful.
Its great to see new faces, hopefully we will have more attendees next week at SPA
PD: Thanks WW for giving us room.
Two quick pics form the race.
Great racing with you Niks. I think we only touched 3-4 times. I do not know if you noticed but my brakes were flickering on the straights. My G25 is messed up and sometimes does that. This slowed me down a bit.
What I found interesting is that certain corners I was a little quicker, and certain corners you were a little quicker. Overall you were a tick quicker. Turns 1 and 2 are the passing corners. You have to out brake the other person and claim the inside, forcing them to take the outside, which is always slower on Tsukuba. When you do this you have to be ahead by the apex of the corner otherwise your opponent will just close the door.
Another tactic is to position yourself just a little off the ideal line before corner entry and then go back on the line just as you enter. This forces your opponent to not only enter on the inside of the corner, but to enter further than they would like, almost guaranteeing they will be slower through the corner. As long as you take that stance the whole way to the corner and only make one move, the one back to the racing line, it is perfectly legal. It is a very defensive tactic and on a simple track like Tsukuba, works very well.
Very good race. I look forward to Spa.
Angst said:Good to hear you guys had a good race in my absence
As you say next Sunday will be all about Spa Francorchamp. Apparently only the host need to buy the track, so if someone is low on funds, this will be a good day to test it.
I will also do a public lobby on Tuesday at ~19.00 CET. Spa, new kart track, new cars and Kazmobile is to be expected.
can't wait
Angst said:
great
EarsOfASnake
Member
Had a great battle with Gynoug79 throughout the whole race with the only issue being my bumping on the 2nd to last turn one lap but I think we both escaped damage. We traded places plenty of times thanks to great racing and mistakes from both of us Loved the mid race mind games with the tyre change, I went 4 laps longer than I planned but wanted to see how long Gynoug79 would go. Luckily for me he made a bigger mistake one corner and so I took the opportunity to get in ahead of him and that was pretty much it.
Watched the Niks & Patriot battle too and that was some quality racing but yeah, Xun really should have just let them pass. Not only did it cost the leaders for nearly 2 laps but Weekend_Warrior (i think) also caught him up and he was directly competing with Xun. As we said though, just be more careful and don't take it personally, you should have seen some of our first GT500 races :lol
Glad people enjoyed the event, wish we had more people though I hope Angst doesn't go anywhere soon because I feel much more comfortable in his capable hands
Loved the mid race mind games with the tyre change, I went 4 laps longer than I planned but wanted to see how long Gynoug79 would go. Luckily for me he made a bigger mistake one corner and so I took the opportunity to get in ahead of him and that was pretty much it.Watched the Niks & Patriot battle too and that was some quality racing but yeah, Xun really should have just let them pass. Not only did it cost the leaders for nearly 2 laps but Weekend_Warrior (i think) also caught him up and he was directly competing with Xun. As we said though, just be more careful and don't take it personally, you should have seen some of our first GT500 races :lol
Glad people enjoyed the event, wish we had more people though
I hope Angst doesn't go anywhere soon because I feel much more comfortable in his capable hands Angst said:
Neither. I did a late night race with 570pp super cars (SLS, GT, LFA, 458, etc) and I bet if you took the the PP to something like 550-560 (and no tuning) it would be a very close race. Spa is such an amazing track it deserves amazing cars. Maybe for the Sunday race.
For Tuesday, LMP is ok but certain cars (Minolta) are obviously faster, so some PP limiting may be needed. RX7 is a little meh for Spa. Needs something faster, but LMP may be a bit too fast.
If you want to do some testing let me know
Also in regards to Xun. Not a big deal. You live and you learn. Just as a general rule the slower car yields to the outside or off the ideal line. Then once you and the person have your lines, stick to it. The faster car will pass you and you will not waste time and speed backing off or driving erratically because there is another car near you. It is also the responsibility of the faster car to choose the right time to pass, you just have to be aware when they do. This especially applies when you are not fighting for position with anyone near you.
Oh right. I assumed you were in the race, and I somehow knocked you out of the game. That's why I was a bit confused by what you said.Toxa said:you interfere during the battle between niks and paskowitz by blocking them for some reason ... and Niks has sustained damages, it's unacceptable.
he had to rethink his strategy and altered the course of the race
Fortunately he managed to catch up paskowitz.
don't take it personally, but such things should not happen.
next time be careful
also special credtis to weekend_warrior and paskowits who managed to hold off niks
The dive-bombing wasn't intentional, I just got caught up in the heat of the moment stupidly.Niks said:Xun, no hard feelings but you were being lapped dude, there was no need to make it soo hard for us to pass you (specially since there was an ongoing fight for first place) and once we pass you, you divebomb into me at turn one....
Again, no hard feelings but next time be more careful.
Its great to see new faces, hopefully we will have more attendees next week at SPA
PD: Thanks WW for giving us room.
I saw cars approaching and by instinct wanted to defend. One stupid move by me and I caused a collision between us. I should've just let you guys pass since you two were in a clear battle and were about to lap me.
Very stupid moves by me and not something I would normally do. So I'm feeling pretty guilty about what happened, believe me.
I enjoyed the race, really I did. And then I glanced away from the screen at the wrong time and ended up damaging my car twice. Heh.
I'm also thinking it's past time to give in and buy a wheel. DS3 is fine for the AI, but not cutting it for human competition. I've been looking for an excuse to spend the money to get one anyway. Will I be satisfied with the DFGT or should I really sink for a G27?
I'm also thinking it's past time to give in and buy a wheel. DS3 is fine for the AI, but not cutting it for human competition. I've been looking for an excuse to spend the money to get one anyway. Will I be satisfied with the DFGT or should I really sink for a G27?
Metalmurphy
Member
Why make it one make? Pretty sure we can get a nice collection of those new cars on equal ground by limiting PP
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
Couple of questions as a noob: I was 5th and pretty much racing alone the whole time, I don't understand where all this people where since I've never been lapped till I had to leave by lap 19 (iirc)... How the hell you guys know how the top cars where fighting each others and all those other details?
2) how do you know when it's time for a tires change and how does it work? Never raced endurance in A-spec, hell I've never even entered the pit once since GT5's launch day
2) how do you know when it's time for a tires change and how does it work? Never raced endurance in A-spec, hell I've never even entered the pit once since GT5's launch day
Metalmurphy
Member
Dash Kappei said:Couple of questions as a noob: I was 5th and pretty much racing alone the whole time, I don't understand where all this people where since I've never been lapped till I had to leave by lap 19 (iirc)... How the hell you guys know how the top cars where fighting each others and all those other details?
2) how do you know when it's time for a tires change and how does it work? Never raced endurance in A-spec, hell I've never even entered the pit once since GT5's launch day
Set the radar to min size and you can see all the cars, also I'm guessing they watched the replay afterwards.
As for the tires, the grip indicator is also a bar that depletes as tires get spent.
weekend_warrior
Banned
MikeDub said:Had a great battle with Gynoug79 throughout the whole race with the only issue being my bumping on the 2nd to last turn one lap but I think we both escaped damage. We traded places plenty of times thanks to great racing and mistakes from both of us
Watched the Niks & Patriot battle too and that was some quality racing but yeah, Xun really should have just let them pass. Not only did it cost the leaders for nearly 2 laps but Weekend_Warrior (i think) also caught him up and he was directly competing with Xun. As we said though, just be more careful and don't take it personally, you should have seen some of our first GT500 races :lol
Glad people enjoyed the event, wish we had more people though
Nah, I was never competing for position with anyone, lap 3 or 4 my dog started begging to go out so I paused in the pits and 2 laps later again in the pits to let her in. Kinda sucks because it the time I was 4th or 5th and I felt like I could have competed for that 3rd spot without distractions. That's alright though, I still had fun watching the battle for first, and got to swap paint a few times with Xun and others. What were the final results anyway? Someone should post them.
Looking forward to spa next week.
MikeDub said:Luckily for me he made a bigger mistake one corner and so I took the opportunity to get in ahead of him and that was pretty much it.
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Glad people enjoyed the event, wish we had more people though
Yeah we took it too far and as mentioned in the lobby my tyres went over the cliff...snaped on me into the left hander u turn and threw me into the gravel. Thanks for hosting and the great battle realy enjoyed it - so praise allaround for ontrack and offtrack action !!!
Dash Kappei said:2) how do you know when it's time for a tires change and how does it work? Never raced endurance in A-spec, hell I've never even entered the pit once since GT5's launch day
This is my rule. Be aware of your average lap time (for me it was in the low 1:04 range). Look at your tire wear indicator in the bottom left, are they near 50-60%? Then look at your current lap times. Once I had 3 laps at 1:05 I knew I had to pit. So as a general rule if you are starting to go over a second or more off your average lap, its time to pit.
You also need to be aware of where the car behind and in front of you is for position and when they have pitted. Using all this information you can pit at the best possible time.
You also need to figure how much is left of the race. If you start losing 1-2 seconds per lap but only have a couple of laps left the best strategy might be to stay out on the track. You can't use the lap time calculations on the ring though as you risk hitting the cliff in the middle of a lap, thus dropping 30+ seconds.paskowitz said:
Regarding car(s) for the Spa event I'm a bit torn. I agree with paz that we want a pretty fast car. LMP cars are awesome, but they do demand a lot from us drivers - I don't want this to turn into a crashfest. Same thing with the Formula GT / X1. I'll think about it today and make a post later tonight.