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Granblue Fantasy |OT| English Translation available as of 2016/04/11!

MSMrRound

Member
Journey Drop shop was implemented, but the drop rate buff that you can buy with the points got bugged.

Pretty much high level players were able to get Gold Bars quite easily off their HL raids when it's supposed to be very rare to get one of those.
 

dennism

Member
Journey Drop shop was implemented, but the drop rate buff that you can buy with the points got bugged.

Pretty much high level players were able to get Gold Bars quite easily off their HL raids when it's supposed to be very rare to get one of those.

you mean the drop rate increased by alot? does it work on magna weapons?
 

garath

Member
Single minded determination has paid off.

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Chaos17

Member
Cross promo apps will stop 10th july: https://www.reddit.com/r/Granblue_en/comments/4qutzs/4app_promotion_ending/

Edit : July schedule event
https://www.reddit.com/r/Granblue_en/comments/4qu0ea/july_event_schedule/

~8th

Scenario Event "Robomi" and "Robomi Generation"

8th~15th

Scenario Event "Giant Fish of Darkness that conquers the Blue Sea" (Rerun)

15th~22nd

Scenario Event "Gentle Breeze and Whitecaps" (Rerun)

23rd~30th

Unite and Fight

31st~8th of August

Scenario Event

First event has

SR Sig character (weapon unlock)
SSR Albacore summon (Dark ATK and HP +20%, +25% at 3*)
SSR Albacore Blade weapon (Dark Saber, Dark HP Large Up)

Second event has

SR Jin character (loyalty unlock)
SSR Ebisu summon (Water ATK +50% and DA down, no DA penalty at 3*)
SSR Scabbardfish weapon (Water Katana, Water ATK Medium Up, Water HP Small Up)
 
I went and logged in on 10 of my alt rolling accounts to get the free 10-pull. I used the ticket on 6 of them and got Rosamia 3 times. :x
 

Felessan

Member
can you transfer your account from android to IOS? i got a new iphone and would like to transfer all my games to there
You don't "transfer" accounts, just use it on new device. CyGames allows you to play on several devices (because it's a browser game in disguise)

Got Robomi on the very last draw from the box. Not that I cared about it.
 

Chaos17

Member
Gratz!

At the moment, I'm trying to get the cross promote freebies tickets before the end the 12th july while farming Robomi event. So far no luck getting a dupe of SSR light knuckles.
 

captainpat

Member
That's not enough. They should scrap the casino entirely and make the items there easier to get by playing the actual game people came for.

Probably too late now though. With the amount of time, and chips won and lost. They would piss so many people off if they got rid of it.
 

omlet

Member
That's not enough. They should scrap the casino entirely and make the items there easier to get by playing the actual game people came for.

Probably too late now though. With the amount of time, and chips won and lost. They would piss so many people off if they got rid of it.

Could easily phase it out if they had a good alternative. Let people continue to spend chips they have on hand, but not earn any more, and just replace those mindless dice roll grinds with something more interesting going forward.
 
Before you all go off into your fantasy land trip of having fun and not wasting your time grinding worthless garbage. Remember the most recent "new thing" they added to the game was Defence Order.
 

Felessan

Member
That's not enough. They should scrap the casino entirely and make the items there easier to get by playing the actual game people came for.
And remove Co-op and hand out millions of rupee for free. And make Omegas drop your favorite SSR weapons every time.
There is almost none exclusive rewards in Casino, besides Anat and Christine, the hardest things to obtain are SR weapon/summon upgrade stones. Rest things are just common and could be obtained in a number of ways. You are not like forced to play casino (although playing casino will make your in-game life easier). It a tradeoff of extra grind for in-game progress and it's even not gated behind stamina bar. Removing Casino will make game just harder to progress (as there is just no point to hand out rewards for free for players).

Btw - co-op is even more grindy, if you want to get those 10k rupee for everyday draw (and a blue crystal). It becomes grind on the edge of insanity when you want to grind 1/2AP pots there (you can net 1-2 ap pots per hour of grinding coop, no actual limit how many you can get). At least in casino you can get 1 or 2 100k superbingo and settle down for a long time.
 

Chaos17

Member
I would rather prefer to grind co-op rahter than casino.
Casino is the last thing I like about this game.

But maybe you like Casino because you're rich ?
Because I'm not so I can't throw regulary that amount of amount grind "efficiently" in casino.
 

Falk

that puzzling face
And remove Co-op and hand out millions of rupee for free. And make Omegas drop your favorite SSR weapons every time.
There is almost none exclusive rewards in Casino, besides Anat and Christine, the hardest things to obtain are SR weapon/summon upgrade stones. Rest things are just common and could be obtained in a number of ways. You are not like forced to play casino (although playing casino will make your in-game life easier). It a tradeoff of extra grind for in-game progress and it's even not gated behind stamina bar. Removing Casino will make game just harder to progress (as there is just no point to hand out rewards for free for players).

Btw - co-op is even more grindy, if you want to get those 10k rupee for everyday draw (and a blue crystal). It becomes grind on the edge of insanity when you want to grind 1/2AP pots there (you can net 1-2 ap pots per hour of grinding coop, no actual limit how many you can get). At least in casino you can get 1 or 2 100k superbingo and settle down for a long time.

First, Casino literally has little to do with the rest of the game and is just yet another example of a bizarre obsession/trend Japan has with them (see: FFXIII-2, Xillia 2, NI NO KUNI because a casino in a kid's game makes perfect sense) and is just about as out of place in the overall scope of 'playing Granblue Fantasy' as much as logging into three other apps are. At least even those have the excuse of being a shrewd business move.

Secondly, you could make the progression argument for just about anything. Hand more pots out, easier progression. Hand less pots out, harder progression. Three guaranteed Gold Anima per day if you're dutifully doing your Casino is not insignificant. I'd go so far as to say it's worth more tagging those than a daily EP/AP refill from Twitter, and I'm not even counting the pots/EP per day which is worth far more than said Twitter reset.

You can very well choose not to, but you are very severely gimping yourself progression-wise if you choose not to.

Thirdly, it's really pure RNG. Sure there's a best practice for it, but even then if you strike, you're set (for a good long while). While everything else in the game, up to and including whaling (thanks Andira), is regulated by a lower boundary** in terms of streakiness, the standard deviation for when you're 'done' with casino ranges from a few weeks or less, to 18 months or more, and no one really is more deserving than another in this case. You're just lucky, or you aren't.

Fourthly, it honestly doesn't encourage anyone to do anything of any debatable* value but instead simply encourages botting, which then incurs the (harsh, justified, whatevs) penalty of an account ban.

*feel free to debate this though. I keep an open mind.


**edit: I am well aware that there mathematically/technically is a lower boundary for Casino as well in terms of absolute time investment - Have ~2M in the bank so it'd take the planets and all cosmos aligning for you to streak out, do poker about ~14 minutes a day (and stop regardless if you make a profit or loss), you should always have enough to get 1/2lix/berries/Anima and even out over a large enough period of time without ever running out. That still doesn't make Casino any less of a sore thumb that has virtually nothing to do with the game, nor fit into your progression, where virtually every other aspect, from main quest progression to killing raid bosses to grinding coop faster is all rewarded by your character/party/pool progress.
 

Felessan

Member
I would rather prefer to grind co-op rahter than casino.
Casino is the last thing I like about this game.
But maybe you like Casino because you're rich ?
Because I'm not so I can't throw regulary that amount of amount grind "efficiently" in casino.
If you don't like it - don't play it. I don't like grinding hard raids - I don't do it (except the times when I really need silver animas). I skip coop farming every so often, because if you don't want to spend AP yourself (and sometimes quite a lot of them), it's RNG hell.
Yes, I am rich, I have more than 100 milllions chips on me, that should allow me to forget about grinding casino for around a year. But I put significant amount both thinking and efforts to get them.

First, Casino literally has little to do with the rest of the game and is just yet another example of a bizarre obsession/trend Japan has with them (see: FFXIII-2, Xillia 2, NI NO KUNI because a casino in a kid's game makes perfect sense) and is just about as out of place in the overall scope of 'playing Granblue Fantasy' as much as logging into three other apps are. At least even those have the excuse of being a shrewd business move.
Casino is a simple and understandable way of introducing sideline activity, which does not directly affect main flow, but provide some benefits. A lot of games use these sideline activities ("those do not have anything with main game") to provide different form of entertainment and some benefits for those who are willing to spend time mastering it. Casino is most popular case as it fits to almost any settings and provide coherent explanation why you should spend time and why you are given rewards.
And it's old practice - for example FF10 has blitzball, which has nothing to do with main game and it does provide benefits.

Secondly, you could make the progression argument for just about anything. Hand more pots out, easier progression. Hand less pots out, harder progression. Three guaranteed Gold Anima per day if you're dutifully doing your Casino is not insignificant. I'd go so far as to say it's worth more tagging those than a daily EP/AP refill from Twitter, and I'm not even counting the pots/EP per day which is worth far more than said Twitter reset.

You can very well choose not to, but you are very severely gimping yourself progression-wise if you choose not to.
You should choose what you want - do what you like or have a better progression regardless of your personal preferences. Because not everything that provide better progression would fall into "i like it" category. It's impossible to make something that everyone will like.
You should not try to project your preferences "I don't like this part of the game, but it has benefits - remove it pls". And of course even if this part will be removed - it's rewards will not be added somewhere else (as it's make no sense), so all you are wishing for - is to make it twistedly "fair" - I don't like it and don't really want to do it - remove it completely so others (who might like it or be neutral) will not benefit from it.

Thirdly, it's really pure RNG. Sure there's a best practice for it, but even then if you strike, you're set (for a good long while). While everything else in the game, up to and including whaling (thanks Andira), is regulated by a lower boundary** in terms of streakiness, the standard deviation for when you're 'done' with casino ranges from a few weeks or less, to 18 months or more, and no one really is more deserving than another in this case. You're just lucky, or you aren't.
Bingo has strictly positive math expectation. Even without superbingo taken into account. It's a completely freebie game and very different from classic casino.
And if you get your guts together and actually follow optimal path, you'll be done in around 60-70 hours with 100 mil chips on hands. Yes, you might have slightly less luck than average and it will take a bit longer, but you have significant statistical advantage, so you are bound to win in this casino.

PS.As a long time MMO player I will say this - grind by itself promotes automation. Bots are much bigger problem in coop and omega farming as those are competitive grind. And bots provide essential advantage - speed.
Even things like Viramate already gives you an edge over vanilla players (like those on smartphones) as having queue makes your skills resolve faster.
 

Grzi

Member
Speaking of gambling, another Star Legend's been confirmed for tonight.

When's my Surprise Ticket D=

Made some money betting on Euro so I guess I'm down for another Star Legend. Still, there really should be a Surprise Ticket coming up soon and I don't wanna spend too much on the game this month. I mean, last month it was close to 90 bucks, with the Star Legend, me using my Start Dash pull and the daily $1 draw. We'll see.
 

dennism

Member
casino's fine..

got back to 7m chips after the bankrupt last time

defence order needs a serious overhaul, i noticed not many people doing them recently, the first one had close to 9k participants (my one and only pass), i joined one today and we had around 3k..
 

Felessan

Member
defence order needs a serious overhaul, i noticed not many people doing them recently, the first one had close to 9k participants (my one and only pass), i joined one today and we had around 3k..
Lack of schedule and lack of reasonable rewards for lower players really hurt DO.
I just can't force myself to follow twitter with time announcement as rewards are rather meh for those who are weak.
 
Yeah no Casino is bullshit. The entire goal of Casino is to play it to the point of where you don't have to play it ever again and it just becomes a chore of checking into it for a minute every day to get the stuff you need and then ignore it. At some point in time you end up ignoring it for days because it can't even provide the stuff you want consistently.

It's a shitty game mechanic, there is no defending it.
 
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