BobJustBob
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dejay said:
Less or no DLC is only a good thing.
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Grand Theft Auto IV thread of hype and stray bullets
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Less or no DLC is only a good thing.
cordonbleu
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So on 360, is this game going to be on the one disc, or similar Lost Odyssey, is it on more?
BakedPigeon
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cordonbleu said:
Yes.
One Disc. One loading screen at the start. Nothing different from the PS3 version except the PS3 version might have an install.
Also, what is this PS3 getting DLC talk about. Im not trying to stir up problems or cause controversy but did Rockstar themselves say that the PS3 was getting DLC? If thats true why in the world is Microsoft and Rockstar pretending they have an exclusive DLC deal in place.
/confused
Metalmurphy
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I'm guessing you're talking about me so "It's like you read the stuff you want to read and your eyes magically slide past the stuff you don't want to read".dejay said:
Where did I say the PS3 was getting the same DLC as the 360? Many were claiming the PS3 wouldn't get DLC at all (as you can see from some posts above), which I never believed, and so I said that.
Ffs, everyone is seen as a fanboy on GAF...
Why the hell has this topic turned into a bitchfest about the PS3 vs. the 360? Both will be coming out in a little more than 2 months. Both will have the fantastic game of GTA IV in it. Both of them you will get to download stuff for, but the 360 version is the only one that gets extra missions. So, get whichever console you want it for, and if you have both consoles, the best investment is the 360 version due to 10 hours of extra content (the PS3 is never going to get it due to the contract) Now that that is out of the way, lets get back to talking about the game itself.
BenjaminBirdie
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WrikaWrek said:
Exactly. In this instance it really is a case of a seperate platform included with the 360 version that you can play these future episodes on. The actual GTA4 experience is the same across the board, but the 360 version has the ability to play these future episodes that, by the way, people will have to pay for.
There is no need to strive for any kind of parity in this situation, anymore than someone who owns Wipeout Pure should expect Wipeout HD for free.
SolidSnakex
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Wow such a logical question causes that much bitching? Geez.
BenjaminBirdie
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Mrbob said:
Not out of the box. It's really best to think of it as "The 360 Version Comes With An Internal 'PSP' That You Can Buy GTAIV Liberty City Stories For A Few Months After Release".
BenjaminBirdie
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Mrbob said:
Well, it's not clear where the missions take place. I wouldn't be surprised if we knew by the end of next week though.
ps3 and xbox 360 both suck. saturn for life.
to relieve the anticipatory cabin fever in threads like these lets talk about the music we'd like to see in the game. again.
Rockstar seems to be going after some local NY bands so I hope they snatch a song from Grizzly Bear - http://www.myspace.com/grizzlybear and Blockhead - http://www.myspace.com/theblockishot
and of course, something off of Illmatic by Nas is a must (N.Y. State of Mind plz).
to relieve the anticipatory cabin fever in threads like these lets talk about the music we'd like to see in the game. again.
Rockstar seems to be going after some local NY bands so I hope they snatch a song from Grizzly Bear - http://www.myspace.com/grizzlybear and Blockhead - http://www.myspace.com/theblockishot
and of course, something off of Illmatic by Nas is a must (N.Y. State of Mind plz).
BenjaminBirdie
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kylej said:
Blockhead beats would completely decimate Saints Row's title for best Soundtrack due to its inclusion of Madvillain's "Money Folder".
Also a must:
"Crooklyn Dodgers '95" by The Crooklyn Dodgers (Chubb Rock, Oc, Jeru The Damaja; Beat By Primo).
Necessary listening when driving past a kid popping a wheelie on his BMX in slow slowwwwww slow motion.
Grimm Fandango
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Himuro said:
I can't take much more of this.
After Apollo Justice next week, there's like nothing else I want until this game. It's going to so brutal.
BenjaminBirdie
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kylej said:
They just need to cut a deal with Def Jux and give us WELP Radio, All Producto, All The Time.
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Endless said:
This is going to have a bigger budget for advertising than Halo 3 had. All from Microsoft
InterMoniker
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Jesus.Agent Icebeezy said:
DenogginizerOS said:
If somehow GTA is an incomplete experience at $60, then the game fails.
EVERYONE that pays $60 for the game should be getting a full awesome experience. The DLC should be the icing, not the cake. Why are people geared up for paying for DLC before the game is even out?
BenjaminBirdie
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Agent Icebeezy said:
Yup. And people scoffed at 360's 2008.
Even a cursory glance at 2007's software numbers should have told everyone what they were planning to do this year.
They are going to spend hundreds of million dollars to ensure that this game is synonymous with the Xbox 360.
Spider_Jerusalem
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Are you expecting something that was paid 50 million dollars not to be mind blowing? Do you think MS gave them all those moneys just for an horse armor and a couple of side missions? Yeah...belvedere said:
squatingyeti
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Spider_Jerusalem said:
It was actually a loan of 50M, but he still has to downplay it as it doesn't fit his agenda.
BenjaminBirdie
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bluheim said:
No one can predict what people in the US are going to do either, only what Microsoft is going to do to get their attention.
I also don't understand how you can market something like premium downloadable content. "GTA IV coming for the Xbox 360, with exclusive episodic content coming in the near future" isn't exactly the best tagline I've heard.
I have no doubt the 360 GTA will outsell the PS3 GTA version, but I have my doubts on how successful this marketing campaign by MS can be.
I have no doubt the 360 GTA will outsell the PS3 GTA version, but I have my doubts on how successful this marketing campaign by MS can be.
Spider_Jerusalem
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They NEED to reveal the nature of the DLCs before tha game launches. It could shift the attenction of many people depending on the greatness of these contents.chubigans said:
I think that with all these moneys, they could easily do something huge like a new storyline with completely new characters, like every DLC is a new game.
squatingyeti
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Let's get this out of the way too before ANY GTA IV sales are reported.
It doesn't matter WHAT console you want to talk about. The larger your install base, the smaller the % attach rate will be. What I'm saying is, the more people that own X console, the smaller the % of attach rate for Y game will be.
Example for those that don't get it:
If you stuck with the retarded idea that when a console was at X install base, then Y game had Z% attach, you're arguing it sold better compared to the other console because the Z% attach was higher than the other console. However, if that was even a valid argument, then games like Madden on PS2 would have sold ~25M.
Early on, madden sold to ~25% of the install base. Therefore, @~100M, Madden should have sold through 25M on the PS2. However, that isn't what happens. Please, people need to understand that as your install base increases, the % of attach of ANY game decreases, but the sales INCREASE.
If you lowered the install base, the % of attach of the game would increase, but the sales would DECREASE.
It doesn't matter WHAT console you want to talk about. The larger your install base, the smaller the % attach rate will be. What I'm saying is, the more people that own X console, the smaller the % of attach rate for Y game will be.
Example for those that don't get it:
If you stuck with the retarded idea that when a console was at X install base, then Y game had Z% attach, you're arguing it sold better compared to the other console because the Z% attach was higher than the other console. However, if that was even a valid argument, then games like Madden on PS2 would have sold ~25M.
Early on, madden sold to ~25% of the install base. Therefore, @~100M, Madden should have sold through 25M on the PS2. However, that isn't what happens. Please, people need to understand that as your install base increases, the % of attach of ANY game decreases, but the sales INCREASE.
If you lowered the install base, the % of attach of the game would increase, but the sales would DECREASE.
squatingyeti
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Spider_Jerusalem said:
They, at one time, said the DLC will be similar to the GTA "stories" series. Not just some crap like a new clothing line.
BenjaminBirdie
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Wollan said:
Please rephrase this in LOST terms so I can better understand.
;D
BenjaminBirdie
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Wollan said:
Now I get it.
Thank you.
DenogginizerOS
BenjaminBirdie's Thomas Jefferson
Calm down, Nancy. Did I say I was one of the people who feel that the PS3 version is a lesser experience? Nope. Are there people out there that own a PS3 that are wondering how much better, if at all, the X360 DLC is going to make GTA IV? Yup. And do a percentage of these people wonder if they are gettting a lesser version by buying the PS3 version? You betcha. This isn't as much about exclusivity as it is about people wanting to know all the details so they can make an informed decision. Hopefully, Rockstar will announce what the DLC is so people can decide.WrikaWrek said:
InterMoniker
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Crazy.BenjaminBirdie said:
I wonder how Sony will be able to compete with Msoft's advertising for the ps3 version.
DenogginizerOS
BenjaminBirdie's Thomas Jefferson
I don't think Sony wants to get into a spending war with Microsoft. There are plenty pf PS2 owners who are saving up for GTA IV and a new PS3 just as there are plenty of Xbox 360 owners who are waiting to buy GTA IV. The question will be how many PS3's and copies of GTA IV are sold on and around GTA IV's release date. And the DLC and the perceived value it gives to the X360 version is a bit of a wild card at this stage. If people that have yet to buy a PS3 or X360 are convinced the X360 version of GTA IV is superior and that justifies giving up MGS4 and Gran Turismo 5, then Microsoft has succeeded. If they still go with PS3 despite the DLC, then MS has spent 50 million to steal away a very small percentage of the Playstation family.InterMoniker said:
BenjaminBirdie
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DenogginizerOS said:
Surely there are plenty of PS2 owners who are saving for GTA IV and a new 360 as well. There's no way that what you described is the only split. Cost > Brand Loyalty, by and large.
InterMoniker
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DenogginizerOS said:
Dun dun Duuuuun!!!!!BenjaminBirdie said:
hahaha I just can't wait to play this game hopefully there will be some kind of multi-player.
DenogginizerOS
BenjaminBirdie's Thomas Jefferson
It depends on how bad they want to give up Metal Gear Solid 4, GT5, Final Fantasy XIII, and perhaps Resistance 2. It also depends on how much the DLC for the X360 version adds to the overall GTA IV experience.BenjaminBirdie said:
And don't call me, Shirley.
Unfortunately, because Microsoft is spending millions to promote the X360 version of GTA IV as being the superior version with its exclusive DLC, there are two versions of this game. I don't care about the DLC as much as I care about having a fun game that runs smoothly on the system I prefer to play it on.
As far as GTA IV is concerned as a game, I am really interested to see how Rockstar makes this game more than GTA HD. I love the dialog in these games and the production values. Do we know yet who the voice actors are?
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