Graphical Fidelity I Expect This Gen

Bojji said:
Horizon looks more detailed here. I think it looks good for a cross gen game from 2022:

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This is PC version but it barely got any updates compared to PS5. Anyway, I will have Yotei tomorrow so I will finally see how it looks on OLED in person...
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The lighting is subpar by current gen standards, regardless of what platform you're running it on. I WARNED GUERRILLA not to go this route with Burning Shores and they went ahead with it anyway. And what's the result of all of this? Legitimate debate over whether, and to what extent, a $60M game developed by artsy-fartsy baby brother studio Sucker Punch, looks better than $200M game developer by one of Sony's top 2 technical studios. Really amazing when you sit back and think about it.

This game is the perfect example of how you can have top class textures, geometry, facial animation, etc. But if your focus on lighting/shadows is nonexistent, particularly in the era of RT, your game will become outdated overnight.
 
ChiefDada said:
The lighting is subpar by current gen standards, regardless of what platform you're running it on. I WARNED GUERRILLA not to go this route with Burning Shores and they went ahead with it anyway. And what's the result of all of this? Legitimate debate over whether, and to what extent, a $60M game developed by artsy-fartsy baby brother studio Sucker Punch, looks better than $200M game developer by one of Sony's top 2 technical studios. Really amazing when you sit back and think about it.

This game is the perfect example of how you can have top class textures, geometry, facial animation, etc. But if your focus on lighting/shadows is nonexistent, particularly in the era of RT, your game will become outdated overnight.
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It's true ...FW looks dated whenever I play it now. I also think the 60 fps mode we're all playing it on the Pro is a downgrade from the Quality mode which explains why its not looking as impressive
 
just started Silent Hill f. and the amount of UE5 games I played that are acceptable on a visual and technical level are still 0.

lumen boil, low image quality, ghosting galore, traversal stutters, animation hitches...

well... that's not surprising tbh. but sad to see each time.
UE5 is just cancer. the worst thing to happen to game graphics and performance.
it is legitimately a warning sign now.
 
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mrMUR_96 said:
Complaining about GOY while praising Horizon is odd to me. Horizon is one of the most visually inconsistent games I've ever played. Interiors had lighting that looked almost broken a lot of the time. GOY clearly has shortcomings, but using Horizon to argue against it doesn't really make sense to me.
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The first horizon is more impressive to me than GoY. The npc rendering alone is mindblowing (especially in Horizon FW) whereas i have seen better npcs in ps3 games than whats in Yotei. Yotei caves are also very ugly and water is plain embarassing for a current gen title
 
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kevboard said:
just started Silent Hill f. and the amount of UE5 games I played that are acceptable on a visual and technical level are still 0.

lumen boil, low image quality, ghosting galore, traversal stutters, animation hitches...

well... that's not surprising tbh. but sad to see each time.
UE5 is just cancer. the worst thing to happen to game graphics and performance.
it is legitimately a warning sign now.
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What platform? Ps5 pro or pc?
 
anyasok said:
The first horizon is more impressive to me than GoY. The npc rendering alone is mindblowing (especially in Horizon FW) whereas i have seen better npcs in ps3 games than whats in Yotei. Yotei caves are also very ugly and water is plain embarassing for a current gen title
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Let's not exagerate here, yotei looks better than the first horizon cmon.

Characters in yotei are very hit an miss, mostly miss but with some good hits.
 
SKYF@ll said:
I also entered the cave last night, and the baked parts and rendered lighting looked broken.
The textures looked to be of proper 4K quality.

An angle looking towards the bright entrance.
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Ok, maybe we've been too harsh judging Pokémon Scarlet/Violet.
 
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kevboard said:
just started Silent Hill f. and the amount of UE5 games I played that are acceptable on a visual and technical level are still 0.

lumen boil, low image quality, ghosting galore, traversal stutters, animation hitches...

well... that's not surprising tbh. but sad to see each time.
UE5 is just cancer. the worst thing to happen to game graphics and performance.
it is legitimately a warning sign now.
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Tom Cruise What GIF
 
PS6 will push path tracing as we want, New radiance cores for next gen GPUs,universal compression and high end ML Neural rays for upscalling, Cerny aren't joking here, PS6 will be a monster, hopefully sony developers talk same approach and use those techs on their games, can't wait for ps6
 
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Msamy said:
PS6 will push path tracing as we want, New radiance core for next gen GPUs , and high end ML for upscalling, Cerny aren't joking here, PS6 will be a monster, hopefully sony developers talk same approach and use those techs on their games, can't wait for ps6
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Ok cool, but not a single word about the Pro, which seems nearly abandonned now
 
Msamy said:
PS6 will push path tracing as we want, New radiance cores for next gen GPUs,universal compression and high end ML Neural rays for upscalling, Cerny aren't joking here, PS6 will be a monster, hopefully sony developers talk same approach and use those techs on their games, can't wait for ps6
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It will be far from being monster as they clearly targeting small budget friendly and efficient soc but good they focus on most important aspects
 
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Flabagast said:
Ok cool, but not a single word about the Pro, which seems nearly abandonned now
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Don't care about it anymore the approach they take with ps5 was a let down they make it slightly perform ray tracing thinking developers won't use it soon and here we are with consoles struggle or perform less quality ray tracing on games, from this interview it's clear that Cerny will push path tracing an cinematic lighting as mush as possible on next gen GPUs alongside new ml upscalling method which sound great from his talking, so next gen will expose many lazy developers who give us bullshit this gen and blame the hardware for that, now PS6 from that video I can assume it will easily support 60fps with path tracing and good upscalled 4k quality
 
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Msamy said:
PS6 will push path tracing as we want, New radiance cores for next gen GPUs,universal compression and high end ML Neural rays for upscalling, Cerny aren't joking here, PS6 will be a monster, hopefully sony developers talk same approach and use those techs on their games, can't wait for ps6
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Like I've been saying, Neural Rendering is the future of video game graphics, you can see its development in Nvidia's research & even current RTX games like Cyberpunk 2077 & Alan Wake 2 (which uses another Neural Rendering feature called "RTX Mega Geometry"), watch their "Zorah" demo, it defies comprehension that it is running in real-time, the Neural rendered textures & materials look insane, rivals the latest CGI movies, plus the (obviously early) neural rendered faces.

Looks like the PS6 will be a cost conscious console, but it's looking to bring a very promising graphical leap indeed.
 
BlownUpRich said:
Like I've been saying, Neural Rendering is the future of video game graphics, you can see its development in Nvidia's research & even current RTX games like Cyberpunk 2077 & Alan Wake 2 (which uses another Neural Rendering feature called "RTX Mega Geometry"), watch their "Zorah" demo, it defies comprehension that it is running in real-time, the Neural rendered textures & materials look insane, rivals the latest CGI movies, plus the (obviously early) neural rendered faces.

Looks like the PS6 will be a cost conscious console, but it's looking to bring a very promising graphical leap indeed.
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Yes CGI quality is not far.
 
Msamy said:
It definitely will be a monster considering it Will have the features that they talk about on that video
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Why ? Hw traversal is in geforces since rtx2xxx. The new bandwidth compression algorithm is good to see, hopefully it's awesome as 160b bandwidth sounds dreadful ;d Its small soc with raster performance probably around rtx5070 level, nothing mind blowing in late 2027
 
GymWolf said:
Wait what?

So they are just making gow egypt?

Not that i'm complaining...
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Yep, I bet they are. One of my most anticipated games, actually.

Msamy said:
PS6 will push path tracing as we want, New radiance cores for next gen GPUs,universal compression and high end ML Neural rays for upscalling, Cerny aren't joking here, PS6 will be a monster, hopefully sony developers talk same approach and use those techs on their games, can't wait for ps6
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They're just copying Nvidia — DLSS, Tensor Cores and compression that we haven't seen yet (only in the trailers). And that's a good thing.
 
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